It's a red, red, red nation

[cali]

It's naive to think that the results of the election are merely about BBV. They're not. Morals have been neatly defined to mean gay marriage and abortion. Republicans now have 55 seats in the Senate and increased their margin in the House. There's just not a whole lot the dems can do. They won't be able to stop further tax cuts, more international debacles, privatization of SS, right wing judges, drilling in ANWR and the further degradation of the environment. Too many fearful DINOs.

There's a large part of me that just wants to say, fine let them have it all. They've taken it anyway. Let them reap the awful desserts of having voted in the likes of bushco, DeMint and Coburn.

The only hope is for things to get worse, for the republicans to overstep. But by then, it may be too late. It probably already is. I don't see how this country survives four more years. I knew bush was going to be a disaster, but I didn't realize he could destroy the nation. He's well on his way to doing so.

I'm going to stay focused on sane local politics. Vermont is the ONLY state in the country where bush's percentage of the vote decreased. We're trending bluer, there's no conservative backlash here.

I find myself sadder and madder then I was yesterday. The more I contemplate the decisions made by the majority of the electorate, the more disgusted I am.

[skooooo]

1. Becoming detached...

I really don't care what happens anymore. From here on out, we get exactly what we deserve whether it's a fiscal depression, increased poverty, return to witchhunts, terror attacks, whatever. I don't blame the rest of the world for hating us. I hate us too.

On another note:
I don't think what you say here makes sense: "Vermont is the ONLY state in the country where bush's percentage of the vote decreased. We're trending bluer, there's no conservative backlash here."

If Vermont is the only state trending bluer, how can you say the country is trending bluer???

[cali]

4. I didn't say the country's trending bluer

Quite the opposite. I said Vermont is deeply, safely blue. Even repubs who win here are, by and large, more liberal than most democrats elected elsewhere. And we have quite a few progressives in the legislature and as mayors.

[skooooo]

5. my bad..sorry

misread

[puddycat]

11. People always resist change. And the right-wingers are reactionaries

People fought hard against every single progressive change for the better in this country--and this world. Women's rights, anti-slavery and individual freedom, birth control, -- these things were all fought hard by people afraid of change. Even during our own War for Independence remember that a third of the people were quite happy with the oppression of the British government.

Fighting for what is right is a constant battle, and that is where the liberals have made a huge mistake. Few young women now have an appreciation for the long hard struggle for equality and how many people lost their lives in that fight. They think their rights are automatic and safe, and so they gladly vote for people under whom their rights are in grave danger.

Liberals have been silent for far far too long.

[calico1]

2. I think a lot of it has to do with

the increasing dumbing down of this country as a result of the abysmal education system we have. When people are ignorant and uneducated they are prime targets for the extreme fundy cults. And the other thing is a lot of people just don't really give a shit who is President unless something they do really affects them personally. You can bet that if the draft were reinstated, a lot of these people would wake up from the stupor they are in.

[Gyre]

7. Well, that

combined with a steady diet of network TV would've made any group of people stupid.

Gyre

[rodeodance]

3. good for Vermont!!!!!!

[hlthe2b]

6. call it what it is: It's a bloody, bloody, bloody nation...

intent on asserting its will to punish, control, or kill the rest of the world.... They are high on power and control. Power and control has nothing to do with true religiosity. Their version of "religion" is only the means to the end.

[Cobalt Violet]

8. I really want the Northeast to sucede.

Think of how great of a country we would be without the red states holding us down to the moron level.
I hope that after a few more years there is an increased momentum for this. We are the ones funding those red states.

[On the Road]

9. It is NOT a Redder Nation

It's just that more of them voted this election. There is still an emerging Democratic majority.

Gay marriage won this election for the Republicans. If the Democrats support state-level civil unions without emphasizing this part of the platform, it will become less of an issue in future elections, just like civil rights and abortion are no longer keys to winning.

Next time, Republicans will be stuck with the effects of Bush's record, no matter who is chosen as the candidate. There is absolutely hope in 2008 without selling out on the core principles.

[JLJ]

10. I'm looking at moving...

I live in ultra-conservative rural west Texas... after the McCarthyism I've been subjected to over the past few months, we're looking at moving to Vermont actually. I know it would be nice to stay here and fight the fight, but I'm just tired of it.

I'm tired of being called a commie, socialist, baby killer, UnAmerican or other slurs just because I support the democratic party.

The problem is trying to find the level of job up there that I have here... no luck so far, but I'm not giving up. I'm ready to get the hell out of here.

[cali]

12. I'm Sorry.

I can't even begin to imagine living with that level of hostility. I wish you the best of luck in finding a job here. It truly is a great place to live.

[JLJ]

14. Cali...

I tried to PM you to get some advice on VT, but it says I don't have enough posts to use that feature (I only found this forum a short time ago). Would you be so kind to PM me your e-mail address?

[Cobalt Violet]

15. Vermont is a wonderfully very, very liberal state.!

I'm tempted to move there myself.

[Catherine Vincent]

13. Glad I'm not republican.

I wouldn't want to be associated with the color red. Idiots.

[drunkdriver-in-chief]

16. Hey dude- Bush got a lousy 51% of the vote

And that was with vote-stealing. The country has not turned RED.

[ciaobox]

17. That EXACTLY what they want you to think...

it is NOT NOT NOT. Don't fall for it.