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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:27 AM
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Hey Freepers: There Will Be Payback.
No, not from us liberals, but you can't alienate 6 billion people without serious repercussions, and much as you'd like to, you can't kill off 1.3 billion Muslims. More lethal terrorists are, as I write, being created. There will be a day of reckoning, probably sooner, rather than later. My regret, is not that you will suffer, but that the rest of us will.

There will be a terror attack that will dwarf 9/11, both in terms of human loss and financial devastation. And the world will not only turn its back, it will take the opportunity to strike at our financial infrastructure. We are the largest debtor nation in the world. Loans will be called. The economy will tank. Don't think this will happen? Think again.

As for your pathetic millenarian fantasies. Millenarianism has been around, and just as fervently as now, for a long time. The rapture ain't gonna happen. Time after time, you sheep congregate someplace and wait to be wafted off to heaven, or for Jesus to come and destroy all us non-believers. You're inevitably disappointed. End/time mythology seems to be hardwired into the human brain. Try reading something besides the moronic novels of LaHaye. That's fiction, folks. You know, made up stuff. Not to mention the worst written pieces of shit ever penned, and just as hateful as Mein Kampf.

So, thanks you freeping idiots. May you reap the whirlwind you've sown. Screw civility. I loath you every bit as much as you loath us. You deserve nothing but the worst. You've earned it.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:30 AM
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1. And I feel a draft...
...
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:32 AM
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3. There may not be a draft because....
eventually the only jobs that will be available are those in the military. People will be forced to join in order to feed their families. The poor fighting for the rich...and it continues.
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:22 PM
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19. Old Slogan
From the Thirty years War in Germany (1618-1648):


"Whose house doth burn must soldier turn."
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:58 PM
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31. Ah the first steips for one were taken today
don't take my word for it, but they were...

Here yuo go


http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html

I started two threads on this, you may want to look for them.

By the way I will enjoy telling freepers, don't cry to me, I will help yuo pack your bags so you can go to bootcamp... oh and don't listen to sarge... and forget to take cover, will ya?



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BayStateBoy Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:15 PM
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25. No PayBack unless we get rid of E-Voting
The history of democratic voting is a history of ballot recounts and the ability to conduct same.

The legitimacy of democratic elections is inexorably predicated upon the electorate's ability to verify the results which is only possible with a tangible ballot giving a permenent record.

A ballot that cannot be physically verified or interrogated is no different than a vote by someone with no verifiable name or residence. It is like making a bank deposit with no receipt and the institution retains no hard copy of the transaction. If it's not good enough for our financial transactions, it's certainly not good enough for our elections.

Any voting method without permanent record that can be verified by recount is UnAmerican and an open invitation to fraud by those of either party who control the state's electoral machinery.

Although George W. Bush rode the moral value issue into the ground and it surely benefited him, he was propelled him to "victory" by the "black box" votes that cannot be verified.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:31 AM
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2. you are so correct....
and they can't blame it on us "liberals". It will be their own doing. I just feel for the rest of us who knew better and voted for change as we and our familes will have to pay the consquences along with the idiots who voted for him.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:33 AM
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4. Their children will be cannon fodder as ours will be
They have no idea what they've gotten the country into. They think Bush is one of them. To a great degree he is, dumb and stupid. But he had genius behind the campaign, and that genius played to the fears and bigotry of the Thuglies.

They will reap what they sow.
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:45 AM
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10. Genius? Con artist is the correct term.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:50 AM
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13. Were our con-artists as good?
Appealing to truth and logic doesn't work with mouth breathers. When our party realizes that, we'll start winning elections again.

Promise them everything, but let those with a modicum of intelligence know it's all a show.
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philaguy Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:06 PM
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32. "one of them"

That is the biggest laugh of them all, really. The surest vote predictive vote demographic is regular church attendance.

The crack-up is, that between Bush & Kerry, BUSH is the one who doesn't, and has never, regularly attended church. That provided the opportunity to play "Kerry is not a good Catholic" because you certainly can't hold Bush to the standards of any church. Carter went every Sunday. Clinton went every Sunday. Reagan & Bush... couldn't be bothered.

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:33 AM
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5. bu$hCo Will Start Death Camps Here for . . .
any group or person who opposes him. Watch it happen. I can't say any more. Just remember I said it first.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:07 PM
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23. you forgot your tinfoilhat smilie!
:tinfoilhat:

Not gonna happen. Also, for the record, nobody will ever be able to hijack a plane with a box cutter again; "fool me once. . . ", and all of that.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:08 PM
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24. No tinfoil for me ...
I'm SERIOUS. Like I said, redmember who said it first.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:34 AM
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6. Yes assholes
The only thing that happens when you oppress other humans is that you make mortal enemies, and you are living in a world full of them now.

They're not just at our borders any more, but walking down the aisles next to you in the supermarket. They're not all wild-eyed terrorists and baby killers and ungodly ragheads and little dirty frenchmen.

We are your fellow Americans, and you have invaded our country and stolen our government, and you had better get your mean little shivering paranoid asses ready for the insurrection.

-sui
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sister moon Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:36 AM
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7. Three cheers for you, Cali
Too bad so many innocents will have die before these truly ugly, evil people will understand what their ideology has wrought. How many generations will pass before these peabrains see that Jayzus isn't coming? How horrific will the world landscape look by the time the majority of Americans start to get the feeling that maybe they are wrong? I'm so sad for my children.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:47 AM
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11. If Jesus were coming,
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 11:49 AM by FlaGranny
do you think he would come NOW? If he did come now, do you really think he would take THESE people? Not if my reading of the bible is correct. These fundamentalists are the very people Jesus warned about.

Edit: I re-read my post and hope it didn't sound confrontational to you. Not meant that way. I'm just adding my 2 cents to YOUR comments.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:07 PM
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17. Correct! Jesus was a tree-hugging pacifist. Freepers forget that
conveniently!!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:05 PM
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15. I don't deserve any cheers.
I lost my temper. Going over to Freeperville was my downfall. Shouldn't have done it, but I'm somewhat fascinated by them. I know they haven't a choke hold on hate. It's here too. It's in me. It's in you. But over there it dominates thoroughly, and either they don't realize how hateful they're being or they feel it's fully justified and revel in it.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:37 AM
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8. No shit, they will be the last to suffer
Our cities (with the exception of NYC, SF and a couple of other globally "normal" cities) were redesigned in the 1950s as anti-WMD fortifications. This was done largely through the building of the interstate highway system. The idea was to leave nothing but black people and immigrants in the concentrated area of the city and spread white wealth far and wide in the countryside. So even if AQ attacks in a Red State as some have suggested Osama's tape said they would, it will be blacks and the poor, not freepers, who take the hit.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:39 AM
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9. Yep. There are far more brown people in the world than there are
u.s. military troops. this country will turn into a second nazi germany in an effort to off the world's brown skinned people. the people of this planet will NOT take it. i predict 1 more war.. 1 more will tip them over the edge and WWWIII will officially start.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:49 AM
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12. Don't let freepers get away
With thier abuses when you see them,spit in thier faces,give it right back at them.Don't let them run away and leave us to clean thier mess like petulent children,MAKE them clean it up.By any way that works.
Bite thier hands until they stop bullying.Disobey them.Refuse to go along and cooperate.Refuse to submit to them,respect them or tolerate them.Treat them like the scum they really are.The freepers have shat upon my good will,tolerance and kindness.It's high time to draw some harsh boundaries and limits and enforce it .I'll teach the immoral fucks how to behave like human beings,or they can act like assholes,choose to face the consquences of thier choices if they DARE to scapegoat me,my freinds my allies or violate human rights and dignity around me.
Yes this pather has long sharp teeth and this kitty will use them if teased,abused, provoked or a bully attempts to cage this cat..
I am wild.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:05 PM
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16. Freeper scum watching this thread confirm what we're saying. read:
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 12:22 PM by bushisanidiot
"To: Lance Romance

You can't kill 1.3 billion people? Says who? A few thermonuclear devices ought to do the trick. We have only not done this because we don't want to offend the hand-wringers, apparently.

104 posted on 11/04/2004 8:55:48 AM PST by AZ_Cowboy
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To: Lance Romance
you can't kill off 1.3 billion Muslims.

Huh? Wha ... why not? Sure, we can't do it all at once, but the sooner we get started, the sooner we can make it happen.
162 posted on 11/04/2004 9:07:18 AM PST by IronJack (R)
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To: Lance Romance
here will be a day of reckoning, probably sooner, rather than later. My regret, is not that you will suffer, but that the rest of us will.

That's right, punk. Osama's juiciest targets are in blue areas.
166 posted on 11/04/2004 9:08:38 AM PST by Spirochete
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Carson Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:50 AM
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14. IMHO, I think there will be another terrorist attack regardless of who is
in the WH. It's only a matter of time.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:08 PM
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18. Can't argue with you, but
everything that happens in this country FROM NOW ON falls ONLY on the shoulders of the neocons and those misinformed and delusional enough to have voted for them. Unfortunately, the rest of us will have to suffer the consequences along with them.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:43 PM
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26. Now that we've appalled the world by letting W stay on
we truly have enemies everywhere. From a practical point of view, this just isn't a safe place anymore. Yet another reason to leave.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:28 PM
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21. Are you so ignorant
that you think even a single person here is buying into your "we" shit?
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teh636 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:32 PM
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22. Honestly...
I would be surprised if terrorists tried another terror attack on our nation that would match 9-11. I believe the terrorists were hoping for us to cower down and be scared after the attacks. Little did they know we would take over two of their countries for taking down two of our buildings. I can see smaller attacks on our economy, but nothing like 9-11.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:13 PM
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27. Iraq is a huge mess that is creating more and more terrorists
they are just waiting for another big opportunity. With Bush in power, this will happen sooner than later.
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teh636 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:35 PM
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28. I dunno...
If they hit Fallujah as hard as they say they will that will discourage a lot of little terrorist wannabe's. Don't forget most if not all of those "terrorists" would run and hide at the first sight of danger. They are just like the thugs of this country, they are tough until they have to take action.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:12 PM
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33. "discourage a lot of little terrorists" like Bush's attack on Iraq has
discouraged Osama?

The last time I saw a video of Osama he looked well rested and ready to strike again. Didn't Cheney say Osama is running and hiding in caves, or might be even dead? Well, Osama didn't look like he spent the last 3 years in caves and was even able to shoot a little ad to recruit more "little terrorists".

Thanks Bush. I feel sooooo much better with OSAMA still active and alive...recruiting new terrorists. Osama probably wrote a personal thank-you note to Bush for not going after him.

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cubsfan forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:36 AM
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40. "they are tough until they have to take
action." Oh, you meant the "terrists." You did very accurately described Commander Bunnypants, though.

Professor 2
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pffarrell Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:52 PM
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29. yep, we're so in control of iraq
funny how illogical someone can be. whaqt do you think they're going to do, boycott mcdonalds? terrorists can't really attack our economy without attacking us as well. still, you keep believing you're safe under chimpy's wing if it feels good
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:55 PM
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30. Yo, Mr. Freeperty Freep: Bush DID cower down! Osama is ...
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 03:56 PM by faithfulcitizen
rested and ready to go! Iraq wasn't one of their terrorist countries.

Repeat after me 1,000,000 times to unbrainwash yourself:

IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!...
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spacemonkey Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:39 PM
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35. Terrorism 9/11(only)
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11!

Terrorism <> 9/11(only)

Seems to me Saddam was sponsoring kids to homicide bomb in Israel. Sorta terroristy if you ask me.

Ok, that story was from Fox, here's another this time from CBS.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:11 PM
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36. And that is related to the attacks on 9/11 how?
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:12 PM by tandot
How about going after ALL sponsors of terrorism???

http://www.cato.org/dailys/11-16-01.html

Terrorist Sponsors: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China

"The United States has assembled a superficially impressive international coalition against the threat of terrorism. Many countries in that coalition, however, contribute little of significance to the fight. Even worse, the willingness of some members of the coalition to actually combat terrorism is doubtful. Indeed, given their record, some of those countries appear to be part of the problem, not part of the solution. That concern is especially acute with respect to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and China."

If you buy anything made in China, you support terrorism:

"China's offenses have been milder and more indirect than those of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Nevertheless, Beijing's actions raise serious questions about whether its professed commitment to the campaign against international terrorism is genuine. For years, China has exported sensitive military technology to countries that have been sponsors of terrorism. Recipients of such sales include Iran, Iraq and Syria"

Well, I guess Bush has 4 more years to attack the whole world. Just nuke 'em all. /sarcasm
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:26 AM
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39. so, now we invaded Iraq to defend Israel? sorry, the reasons seem
to change daily...you people are hopeless. Here's something you can take back to your klan: YOU FAILED THE TROOPS!!!!
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cubsfan forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:39 PM
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41. Your head must be spinning to
keep up with all of the lies and circular reasoning of your heroes in the administration. Faux = CBS, since you are trying to use mathematical symbols to support your gop talking points, er, argument. Bye!

Professor 2
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:33 PM
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34. Which two of their countries?
Afghanistan AND? You aren't a Fox watcher are you. There was a survey the discovered that Fox viewers really believed Iraq and Al Queda were "connected."
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HappinessPie Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:34 PM
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37. Does your brain squeak inside your skull? I'm sure they KNEW...
we would retaliate. Duh, they know we have a huge and ready military. Osama may be a lunatic, but he sure as hell isn't stupid. If you think he is you are underestimating him and his organization.

This has been the best outcome Al Qaeda could hope for: more ammunition to build his terror army. Thanks a lot, BushCo.

Soon you will all see your folly in supporting this lying, greedy, selfish administration, but it will be too late for all of us. Thanks a lot.

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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:46 PM
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38. What's wrong with the sleeper button?
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LibeMatt Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:05 PM
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42. Hack has a great column on this today...
URL:

http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target%20Homepage.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=90&rnd=682.7474035048874

Some excerpts:

"In most of the wars we’ve fought, our leaders have understood our enemies and how to take them down. But in the current shootout – a continuation of the revolutionary fervor first ignited in Algeria in the 1960s, then fanned by the Iranian Revolution, a huge Jihad victory against the Soviets in Afghanistan, Israel’s humiliating withdrawal from Lebanon and its interminable fight in Palestine culminating in 9/11 and our retaliatory invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – America’s leaders from both major parties and our military and intelligence establishments remain in deep denial and blindly continue to believe that because we’ve got the power, we shall overcome.

"Ditto a large chunk of the American public that has sent me gigabytes of e-mail about how we should do a Goldwater on the bad guys and “bomb them back to the Stone Age” – when that's where most of our 1.3 billion potential Islamic opponents already are. If ignorance is bliss, America might have cornered the market on happiness.

"But unless we get real and bend our brains around what motivates our enemy, we will never prevail against the increasing millions of polarized Muslims who are becoming more united with every explosion of smart bombs and every Yankee occupation boot stumping across their turf.

<snip>

"“Bin Laden has been precise in telling America the reasons he is waging war on us,” writes “Anonymous,” the author of Imperial Hubris, a critically important book that defines Osama and what’s driving his bombers. And the reasons don’t “have anything to do with our freedom, liberty, and democracy, but have everything to do with U.S. policies and actions in the Muslim world.”

<snip>"
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