Bush to be subpoenaed...

[mousie]

President Bush to Be Subpoenaed; Blackwell Tries to Avoid Sworn Testimony; Over a Dozen Members of Congress to Challenge Election

In a sign that Votergate news stories will soon become impossible for the mainstream media to ignore, news of ground-breaking developments in the national scandal is now coming so fast and so furiously through internet channels that The Advocate strains to report it all in a timely fashion. Indeed, even an Associated Press article now being carried by all major media outlets, auspiciously entitled "Ohio Recount Ends, Shows Vote Closer," states clearly that "he completion of the recount will not bring an end to questions surrounding the vote in Ohio. A group of voters citing fraud have challenged the election results with the Ohio Supreme Court.... the Government Accountability Office, an arm of Congress, also is investigating election problems."

more...

http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/

[rocktivity]

1. Be still, my heart!

If we can tie this directly to President Mightymouse, he'll be a lame duck for life at the very least!

:headbang:
rocknation

[read the law first]

8. Did anybody notice that OSC has issued a 12(b)(6) rule nisi?!

There's a 12(b)(6) rule nisi order from the Ohio Supreme Court today on the Supreme Court case that STAYS the obligations of the defendants to answer and says that Arnebeck's suit against Moyer will be dismissed unless he proves that it shouldn't.

This is serious.

[deacon2]

10. What does this 12(b)(6) rule nisi mean?

read the law first -

please explain significance. thanks.

[read the law first]

16. Rule 12(b)(6) is one of the grounds for a dismissal

Rule 12(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure lists the defenses that have to be set out in the answer of the defendants or they are waived. It is fairly routine for a defendant to include some of the 12(b) grounds but almost universal that a defendant will include 12(b)(6) which is failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. In this case, the Court made its own motion to dismiss and ordered the Complainants to show why their case shouldn't be dismissed. This is unusual and serious. As I predicted in an earlier post (to the usual catcalls and hatemail), fraud has to be pled with particularity. The who, what, when, where and how. Most pleadings are called "notice pleading" which means that as long as the defendant has a general idea of what the Plaintiff is talking about, that's sufficient to survive a motion to dismiss. But fraud is different. You can't just say "We allege fraud" like you can "We allege that Defendant breached the contract."

The rule nisi is sometimes called a "show cause" order and it sets out a deadline whereby a party has to come to the court and show something (usually why something should be ordered or why something should not be ordered).

Additionally, the Court STAYED anything that the Defendants (the contestees) have to do until the motion to dismiss is resolved. No subpeonas, no discover, no nothing.

This is not a good development.

[deacon2]

22. Thank you for clarifying

It seems the GOP is going to do what they do best now - avoid reviewing the actual merits by never allowing the case to be heard. It's all of a piece with not allowing the votes to be counted, not allowing the defendant to speak (Bobby Seale) and on and and on...

Next question - is there any counter motion available to Arnebeck, or is this checkmate?

I appreciate your taking time to explain to this layman what's really going on.

[Clark2008]

23. Do we know how confident Arnebeck is with his pleading?

In other words, I've been lead to believe Arenbeck has at least somewhat of a smoking gun, based on his interviews.
I realize attorneys bluster and blow, but Arnebeck never seemed like he was doing to much of that.

Could he actually produce the inkling of evidence needed to overcome the stay?

[TexasChick]

12. rtlf, have you heard anything about Arnebeck's response today that

shows the suit shouldn't be dismissed against Moyer?

I wasn't understanding how serious this was until you commented. I didn't think Arnebeck and the Kerry bunch would get very far with the OSC. Interesting indeed....Thanks! :hi:

[read the law first]

17. That's what I was looking for when I came across the 12(b)(6)

I don't know if it was filed or not. I was trying to find it so that I could read it when I came across the 12(b)(c) and I just went "oh crap, a 12(b)(6) rule nisi from the judge is not good."

[TexasChick]

18. Yeah, I just read your post above about the 12(b)(6) rule nisi and you

said it wasn't a good development. Damn!!

[goclark]

14. MightyMouse : )

President mighty Mouse, that is a new one LOL

[rocktivity]

27. "President Mightymouse" was inspired by this video (click on the pic)

:headbang:
rocknation

[goclark]

29. That is the little wimpy mouse for sure : )

[Desert Liberal]

32. LMAO

Mighty Mouse indeed! Funny as hell! Thanks a bunch; I really needed the laugh...:hug:

[duessa]

26. I need a thread - support Vermont secession

http://www.sataniststore.com/

It's brilliant & time. We in VT need a massive show of support. Anyone?

[newyawker99]

33. Hi duessa!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[roguevalley]

2. the headline of my dreams. thanks.

:evilgrin:

[toymachines]

5. well that is great news

my optimism keeps rising and falling though.

[Nikepallas]

3. I hope at least half of it is true. Just to get to the bottom of this.

[LibertyorDeath]

4. Bush to be subpoenaed...

Thanks best news I've heard in a while.

Crooks and Liars every last mf one of them.

[driver8]

13. Shrub will never testify...

He wouldn't testify under oath to the 9/11 commission and he won't testify regarding election fraud. There is no way...

* will decree "I don't have to testify because blah blah blah" and the MSM will accept it and so will the American people.

It sucks, but that is the way it is.

[LibertyorDeath]

6. W E L C O M E ! to DU mousie

:toast:

[Kellis]

7. I second that Welcome~

:toast:

Thanks for posting~

[mousie]

9. thank you both

for the nice welcome! I'm glad to finally get more involved and get an account here... this place has been a great source of information that's real hard to find out there! And I must say, it's real nice to find support from others who feel the same way. (I've spent a lot of time on other forums arguing with republicans and seem to be outnumbered there.)

[justiceischeap]

11. I guess we all know where he'll be spending that political capital!

[me b zola]

30. At the prison commissary?

One could only hope.

[me b zola]

31. At the prison commissary?

One could only hope

Keep hope alive!!

[GetTheRightVote]

15. Where better to get the truth but in a court of law, I hope they are not

paid for like the previous members out of Florida in 2000.

I am hopeful thought since so many sincere Americans are working at getting stolen elections out of our election process, hurray.

:kick:

[zbdent]

19. Let us remind the repukes who call this a sham

that they were the ones who said that you could subpoena (sp?) a sitting president . . .

[New Earth]

20. dude - it sounds nice to hear, but

it's kinda creepy. Poor Bushy. Could you imagine him being under oath for something (not nec. this) when he knows he's lying?

(oh wait, he's done that for 4 years.......'solemnly swear to uphold the consitituion, etc etc')

[Clark2008]

21. ROFLMAO!!

And, if they try to say that the courts cannot subpeona a sitting president... well... role out Jones v. Clinton... :P

Republicans stuck their foot in it by their relentless persecution of Clinton. We need to go back and study all their tactics to get at Clinton (minus the special prosecutor, of course) and see what we can do to yank their chains around - tactics that they've already used and cannot argue against!

Besides, election fraud effect MANY MANY more people than a sexual harrassment suit.

[McCamy Taylor]

24. He'd better donate his inauguration fund to tsunami victims and...

...get sworn in at his ranch in Crawford in a private ceremony, because I am beginning to suspect that this January 20, 2005 will see even more anti-Bush protesters in DC than were there in 2001, and the anti-Bushies outnumbered the supporters even then.

[rocktivity]

28. The Farenheit 911 inaugural protest scenes astounded me

I knew there had been a well-attended protest, but the eggs flying and the venomous atmosphere was a far cry from how the MSM portrayed it.

If I have to settle for another Bush presidency, at least it will be another tainted one.

:headbang:
rocknation

[bemis12]

25. That attorney had better have something

If he doesn't, no judge in the U.S. would allow a sitting president to be subpoenaed on a fishing expedition.