nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-04-04 01:34 PM
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From the Federal Registry, fiirst steps to a draft |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 01:36 PM by nadinbrzezinski
for those who do not understand this... folks the draft is close, very close... this is the first wicket to activate it. 4 November 2004 Source: http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html-----------------------------------------------------------------------
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access
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SELECTIVE SERVICE SYSTEM
Computer Matching Between the Selective Service System and the Department of Education
AGENCY: Selective Service System.
ACTION: Notice.
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In accordance with the Privacy Act of 1974 (5 U.S.C. 522a), as amended by the Computer Matching and Privacy Protection Act of 1988 (Pub. L. 100-503), and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Guidelines on the Conduct of Matching Programs (54 FR 25818 (June 19, 1989)), and OMB Bulletin 89-22, the following information is provided: 1. Name of participating agencies: The Selective Service System (SSS) and the Department of Education (ED). 2. Purpose of the match: The purpose of this matching program is to ensure that the requirements of Section 12(f) of the Military Selective Service System Act <50 U.S.C. App. 462 (f)> are met. 3. Authority for conducting the matching: Computerized access to the Selective Service Registrant Registration Records (SSS 10) enables ED to confirm the registration status of applicants for assistance under Title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (HEA), as amended (20 U.S.C. 1070 et seq.). Section 12(f) of the Military Selective Service Act, as amended <50 U.S.C. App. 462(f)>, denies eligibility for any form of assistance or benefit under Title IV of the HEA to any person required to present himself for and submit to registration under Section 3 of the Military Selective Service System Act <50 U.S.C. App.[br />453] who fails to do so in accordance with that section and any rules and regulations issued under that section. In addition, Section 12(f)(2) of the Military Selective Service System Act specifies that any person required to present himself for and submit to registration under Section 3 of the Military Selective Service System Act must file a statement with the institution of higher education where the person intends to attend or is attending that he is in compliance with the Military Selective Service System Act. Furthermore, Section 12(f)(3) of the Military Selective Service System Act authorizes the Secretary of Education, in agreement with the Director of the Selective Service, to prescribe methods for verifying the statements of compliance filed by students. Section 484(n) of the HEA <20 U.S.C. 1091(n)>, requires the Secretary to conduct data base matches with SSS, using common demographic data elements, to enforce the Selective Service registration provisions of the Military Selective Service Act <50[br />U.S.C. App. 462(f)], and further states that appropriate confirmation of a person's shall fulfill the requirement to file a separate statement of compliance. 4. Categories of records and individuals covered: 1. Federal Student Aid Application File (18-11-01). Individuals covered are men born after December 31, 1959, but at least 18 years old by June 30 of the applicable award year. 2. Selective Service Registration Records (SSS 10). 5. Inclusive dates of the matching program: Commence on January 1, 2005 or 40 days after copies of the matching agreement are transmitted simultaneously to the Committee on Government Affairs of the Senate, the Committee on Government Operations of the House of Representatives, and the Office of Management and Budget, whichever is later, and remain in effect for eighteen months unless earlier terminated or modified by agreement of the parties. 6. Address for receipt of public comments or inquires: Richard S. Flahavan, Associate Director, Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs, Selective Service System.
Dated: October 28, 2004. Jack Martin, Acting Director.
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(Oh and Freepers don't tell us we did not warn you... now when you ARE FORCED TO GO... since you would NEVER VOLUNTEER TO SERVE this CiC, I mean you cuold get killed doing that... you will have no tears from me, not even compasion. You made this bed on your so called morals... problem is we get to sleep in it too... but yuo will get no comapsion from me)
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Thu Nov-04-04 01:48 PM
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actually, i'm fairly sure that's just making sure that students registered for SSS are getting their federal loans and grants.
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-04-04 01:53 PM
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2. No this ist he the first step to activate it |
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my husband (navy vet) and my brother in law (Navy vet and Vietnam Vet) smell it as well.
The story for a June 15 activation was on the AP wire on June 15, for six hours... this is the first wicket...
On the bright side, we tried to tell them, now I don't have to feel respnsible when freeps get pulled in
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:04 PM
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5. You are correct - this is to see if college loan applicants are registered |
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What IS happening is military recruitment in high schools unless the parents sign a statement prohibiting their son/daughter from being recruited.
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Thu Nov-04-04 01:57 PM
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3. Good! Excellent! BRING ON THE DRAFT! |
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I hope every fucking bible thumper's son and daughter gets drafted. Then there will be less bible thumpers to decide how New York and Los Angeles need to be protected from ourselves.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:09 PM
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6. So Will My Sister's Kids |
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Let's not bring it on, OK?
My sister's kids will get sucked into this monstrosity too, and she's been opposing the war since before it started, just as we have.
One of them has some neurological issues that probably won't get him a deferrment, but would get him killed over there. He reminds me a lot of me.
There is no such thing as a fair draft. Never has been. Never will be. The politically-connected will always be safe from stuff like this. Our pResident himself is a glaring example.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:40 PM
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9. I feel for her. I really do. |
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Don't get me wrong. I have relatives that are of age too. There is always the "Conscientious Objector status". But the right needs to pay IN BLOOD.
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:02 PM
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I'm too old and my kids are too young.
Bring it on
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:15 PM
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I'm almost 53 and I don't feel all that safe. They're already jacking it up to 34 and talking about going at least up to 45 for "special skills". They have called back IRR people as old as 67! PM me if you want one of these bumperstickers.
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:34 PM
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point is folks we told them, we told the freepers this woudl happen
but bush woudl never do this
One more point... and this is an important one... the SSS laws have not been truly enforced in 20 years.. I mean it.
Why do you think they have an interest in enforcing them all of a sudden? On the face of it this is how, on the surface, this documnent reads... some will tell you this is nothing...
Also remember Bush's freudian slip, about not having a volunteer army during the campaign
Oh and finally, I truly feel for the kids who voted against the chimpster (and whose votes were stolen). I truly feel for the kids who will be pulled into this, except two groups, YOUNG REPUBLICANS, who will do all they can to emmulate their VEEP in having OTHER priorities and I am possitve if tehy are well connected they will have other priorities, and the freeps... as far as I am concerned, they made that bed by their suport... unfortunately I need to sleep in it too.
On the bright side, if there is one... the campuses in some areas will explode once kids realize what this means, and they are bright. It may take for more glaring examples of where this is going, but they will explode... and the other 49% who did not vote, and is far more concerned with Survivor and briney Spears, is in for a rude awakening...
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Thu Nov-04-04 06:40 PM
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14. Don't Forget the Kids who are Too Young to Vote |
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But will be old enough to be draft bait within the next four years.
All three of my sister's children are in that category, and I fear for them especially. My niece can't vote, but she has been actively opposing the war all along. So has my sister, who is also adamant that she will not let the Army have her kids no matter what.
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:00 PM
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10. its dated Oct 08 though |
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And boys and girls the president can't institute a draft--congress has to, and well they may be mostly REP, but it doesn't mean they don't have to answer to constituants...
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:05 PM
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11. Technically yes and no |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 03:06 PM by nadinbrzezinski
The way Roosevelt handled it was... executive order with the Hill following...
And they are answearable to consitituents, you'll see, bush just needs to go on the teevee and "explain" to the Murican People why we need a draft, praize jeeezus for our crusade against evildoers all over the world, You truly think our so called "moral majority" will contradict the one appointed by the lord to carry on his plans to speed up the commng of Armagedon?
Sorry to sound flippant, but true believers turn on a dime, and they will even deny he ever said there would be no draft.
Oh an at the top the date of publication is TODAY
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:24 PM
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12. Congress isn't needed |
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To get their lists of possible draftees up to date.
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Thu Nov-04-04 03:34 PM
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The republicans won the presidency, the senate, and the house....and my generation loses. I'm 19 and in the middle of college. Although I cannot be drafted due to a 30 db hearing loss (do you want a partially deaf kid on the battlefield?), if this draft comes up as I think it will, I'm going to be watching my generation be shipped off to war and come back in coffins. That's not cool. Not only does my generation have to worry about today's deficits, we have to worry about today's wars.
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Thu Nov-04-04 06:43 PM
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 06:44 PM by nadinbrzezinski
My husband just retired from the Navy, I fear he will be right there with you...
Now my brother in law's generation had to deal wtih Vietnam and yes, deficits...
We will survive this but my question is at what cost?
Oh and if this starts looking like a definite, kid tell your freinds to RUN, not walk, RUN to the Air Force Recriter and voluntarily join... it will be easier, as daftees will end up in the Marines and the Army.
this is the same advise my bro in law is giving his kids, as running to Cnanada is no longer an option... for many reasons.
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