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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:48 PM
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Did Kerry concede because of SKULL AND BONES code of honor?
Anyone know if there is some code of honor amongst Boners that might explain Kerry's complete abandonment of the fight?
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:49 PM
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1. Ugh ... stop ...
He lost ... He got less votes ... that was not going to change ... That is why he conceded.

Cheers
Drifter
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:49 PM
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2. I think it's more
a case of *lack* of bones. I.E. a spine.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:53 PM
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10. WHAT! YOU DON'T LIKE JOHN KERRY?
MY GOD, I AM SHOCKED! :o
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:54 PM
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11. Well, duh
I am clearly a freeper. I would've thought you clever enough to have noticed by now. :P
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:58 PM
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17. Ah. Sex-crazed midget, yes.
Freeper, not so much.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:50 PM
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3. Why wouldn't * concede, then?
I don't think that's it.
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Lucypher Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:53 PM
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8. what's this skull and bones talk?
Is this something reminiscent of that movie "The Skulls" ??

Sorry I'm new and clueless to the term.

If there is some sort of FAQ you can point me to that'd be great!
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:55 PM
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14. Yes
Kerry and * were both part of Skull and Bones secret society at Yale. Which the movie "The Skulls" was based on.
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:51 PM
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4. So far, nobody has answered my question.
Anybody out there an expert on Skull and Bones?
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:23 PM
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23. Yes, Seventhson - the FREEPER who outed himself
on election night was THE Skull and Bones expert. Feel free to swallow his BS.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:39 PM
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26. Lol!
Remember him?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:32 PM
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39. Did that really happen?
Was seventhson actually a freeper who unveiled himself on "the night of the great unmasking"? I didn't know that. Anyone else?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:48 PM
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42. yup
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:50 PM
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28. Info about S and K is all over the internet. Plus, several books
have been written about it. It's a very nasty group of guys. Throughout the primary, I continued to warn that Kerry was a member.
Not one time did any poster respond to my warning. Not one.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:52 PM
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29. Probably because it was nuts.
Why didn't the enormous power of Skull and Bones project him into the White House?



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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:54 PM
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31. Because Bush is also a member of Skull and Bones and was
already the incumbent. Bush's father was also a member as well as many prominant political figures. Check it out.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:55 PM
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32. I read the nonsense put up here by our former expert on S&B.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 02:56 PM by LibertyChick
It's still ridiculous.


Former banned expert. It was so nice of him to attempt to smear the candidate while under the guise of a member of DU in good faith.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:00 PM
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36. I'm no expert on S & K. But, the fact is that both candidates
were members of the same small fraternity. It is also a fact that many prominent politicians have been members. It could be an unrelated coincidence that both Bush and Kerry were frat brothers. But, how can you blame us for being suspicious of just about everything.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:03 PM
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40. Skull & Bones links
http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm

http://www.freedomdomain.com/skullbones.html

I'm just offering these for those who are unfamiliar - I am in no way endorsing theories that imply a S & B code was the reason for Kerry conceding.

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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:43 PM
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41. And Teresa Heinz Kerry's the widow of a Bonesman!

It's a Family Affair!

I feel The Skull and Bones Society is a legitimate issue.

When asked about Skull+Bones by Tim Russert in an early interview, John Kerry refused to answer any of the questions.

Why?

Where do John Kerry's primary loyalties lie?
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:51 PM
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5. Rubbish! That's not it, but there has been, since the concession speech,
total silence from the Kerry camp. I'd like to think that 'something' under the radar is going on with the vote count. Wishful thinking probably, but does anyone share the same glimmer of hope?
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Joylaughter Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:55 PM
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12. Yes
Yesterday I wrote:

"Is it possible that by being so (sic) gracious in concession and in calling for healing, he has disarmed the opposition with charm. THEN, THEY will not be watching / blocking the count and IF KERRY is then (MIRACULOUSLY) found to be the TRUELY ELECTED LEADED, he can show that he trusted the (sic) integrity of the Other side of the
aisle, and that he would now expect the will of the voters to be honored and that BUSH should concede in the same (Sic) Gracious manner and VOILA, KERRY THEN WINS and has reached out to the other side in a way that heals."

Anybody? Things are a little too quiet. There is an eery calm in the air.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:54 PM
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30. Yes.
I am wondering is some behind-the-scenes stuff is going on.
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AlaTide Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:52 PM
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6. i said a long time ago
that Kerry is not as well thought of by S & B as *, because he wouldn't sell his soul to their cause like *, and ther was no way they would let him win the election.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:52 PM
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7. Probably not. If there was, Kerry would have never ran against *.
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Lucypher Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:00 PM
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18. Nice picture -- I gotta subscribe!!!
I still have no idea what this s&b thing is...


site seems slow or down (maybe because of the picture hotlink?)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:09 PM
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21. Actually, only about 50 millions - but it's still bad. What a cover!
I suspect over 9 million were Diebolded from us.
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5by5 Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:36 PM
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24. S&B fix was in since Jan.
Maybe the fix S&B fix has been in since the primaries--Kerry intentionally let his old Skull and Bones brother win...
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:55 PM
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33. Are you kidding? They couldn't lose.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:53 PM
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9. I just can't believe this..... no matter how many DUers post this same
thing...


There are plenty of issues where conspiracy speculation is not such a stretch, IMO... but this is not one of them.

Let's move on and put our energy: first, into investigating the true vote counts and fraud in several states; second, into reforming the voting system in those states; 3rd, into reforming the media; and 4th, into the midterm elections!
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:55 PM
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13. I suspect so myself
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batchdem04 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:55 PM
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15. I WANT TO TALK TO KERRY RIGHT NOW
what is he doing?
what is he thinking?
what if anything are they planning?

someone tell me :cry:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:57 PM
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16. no
he conceded because he was a freeper.

the unmasking begins
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Lucypher Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:06 PM
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20. I'm surprised Michael Moore who..
I'm surprised Michael Moore who was on the front line in OH hasn't said anything yet... His staff was worried about him after traveling 51 days straight -- he had walking pneumonia too! -- yet no posts about the elections on his site -- EXCEPT the one 2hours before the polls were going to close.

Front page:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/

goes to a bush photo collage with a mailing list sign up (been like this since Wed. afternoon.

Journal/blog link

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:03 PM
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19. Kerry conceded b/c he didn't want to be a Bush
Could we have won Ohio? Probibly; Florida? Maybe...But would we make up 3.4 million votes? No. Kerry didn't want to be another EC winner PV loser.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:11 PM
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22. How honorable of him. It will keep me warm when Social security goes
and I am sure those who die in war daily will be touched too.
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DaveofCali Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:56 PM
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34. Oh, and the fate of Democracy is not more important!!!?
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:38 PM
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25. Jesus fucking Christ
No. No , I don't believe that.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:40 PM
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27. If there was such a code, and Kerry abided by it, I would bet
Bush wouldn't. So it would be one-sided "honor". Not that that would surprise me.
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DaveofCali Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:58 PM
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35. Kerry's a traitor if he conceded for S & B code
A traitor to the nation.

Imagine that your in war and suddenly your commander defects, leaving you out alone against the enemy. That commander just betrayed you and would not be that much better than the enemy.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:06 PM
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37. ...
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 03:50 PM by LibertyChick
self delete
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:52 PM
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38. I think...
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 03:54 PM by Nicholas_J
I think that we lost the election because there are 59 million extremely stupid people on the right, who will buy any lie that George Bush tells regardless of all of the evidence presented to the contrary by bipartisan commissions on 9/11. But because we have a good percentage of wingnut tin-foil-hat morons on our own side discussing idiocies like Skull and Bones. Anyone who buys into this nonsense deserves George Bush as president as much as the fools who elected Bush deserve it. Drop the riduculous Skull and Bone crap, it makes Americans look even more stupid to the rest of the world.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:24 PM
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43. Funny.
Some time back a poster said that Kerry was the chosen fall guy and that the election/votes would be rigged.

I laughed and asked why they would need to rig the election if Kerry was willing to take a dive.

I may owe someone an apology.

I don't know what to think anymore, except I want a candidate in 2008 who is entirely unconnected to S&B, the new world order, Bilderberger, and all the other forces that seem hellbent on subverting democracy.

Kucinich in '08?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:35 PM
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44. "Yours in 322"
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 06:36 PM by Minstrel Boy
A letter from Kerry to GHW Bush, in the Bush library, bears that Bonesman salutation.

From a post in my blog a couple of months ago about S&B:

Skull and Bones - established in 1832 and incorporated in 1856 as the Russell Trust - was sustained by opium money, and established its influence through its ability to place graduates in key positions in the lucrative global drug trade.

Sora advances the thesis that the secret business of societies such as Skull and Bones has been to facilitate the accrual of criminal wealth by a privileged pirate class through such means as drug-running, slave-trading and arms-dealing. Knowing this history, we can make more sense of how a supposedly distinguished family such as Bush can be mixed up in so many stories of drug-running, weapons-smuggling and money-laundering. In the context of the opium trade, the CIA's stuffing Golden Triangle heroin in the corpses of GIs killed in Vietnam and protecting the importation of crack to America's inner cities reads suddenly like business as usual.

That both George Bush and John Kerry are Bonesmen may be nothing but a fluke of the American overclass. That in 2003, George Bush appointed a Bonesman, William H Donaldson, to head the Securites and Exchange Commission, the regulatory body responsible for investigating charges of 9/11 insider trading, is no fluke. That Donaldson is a longtime friend of the Bush family, and classmate of fellow Bonesman and terrorist money launderer Jonathan Bush, is no joke.

Skull and Bones remains to some a silly issue, but an issue it will remain so long as the question "Do you know General Russell?" can send an old boy into a trance faster than "Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?"

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/09/yours-in-322.html
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:47 PM
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45. Locking
this is inflammatory and totally unnecessary
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