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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:49 PM
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We need to take a stand NOW. How many are we?
We’re not alone in our fight against vote fraud. But just how many of us are there? Are there 100s of thousands, millions, 10s of millions? This is a preliminary list of organizations and groups that either exist to contest the vote or are re-focusing on the stolen election. I know it is nowhere complete.

Election Protection
Progressive Democrats of America
No Stolen Elections
CASE
Voters Unite
Cobb Recount/Green Party
ReDefeat Bush
Verified Voting
51 Capital March
Open Voting Consortium
We Do Not Concede
National Voting Rights Institute
The Dean People
The Alliance for Democracy
Help America Recount
FairVote, the Center for Voting and Democracy
Demos
Audit the Vote

We have leaders like Rep. John Conyers/the House Judiciary Committee, and Jesse Jackson.

We also have the alternative media, thousands of progressive forums and blogs, and organized experts in the law, in technology, the economy, and other areas. We have veterans groups, 9/11 groups, impeach Bush groups, environmental and energy groups, civil rights, education and health care groups that all dream of seeing this election reversed. A lot of people are fighting with us; some want to win but can’t believe that it can be done. But this many voices, however many that is, speaking together with conviction cannot be ignored for long.

Many national organizations -- NAACP, League of Women Voters, ACLU, MoveOn.org -- while speaking for the need for election reform, and speaking out against vote fraud, have not yet issued action alerts to their members in support of the Jan. 6 contest the vote mobilization effort.

There’s still time for them to take a stand and use their reach and influence to help rid us of the corruption that threatens our democracy.

We need to hang tough, demonstrate our opposition, and network, network, network!

Note: My name is katinmn and I believe we can do it!:)
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wendypan Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:58 PM
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1. Yes We Can!
We are starting to get attention. Let's not back down now. where is the daily recount thread? That is so helpful to new people just trolling. It introduces them to all the issues at a glance.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:01 PM
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2. Uh, let me add it up...... uh, three.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:03 PM
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5. are you a pessimist ?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:58 PM
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19. No. Just being goofy.
:) :0 ;)
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:59 PM
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21. I was hoping you meant 3 million n/t
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:02 PM
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3. Add my name to the group....
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:03 PM
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4. I have some more links to groups on
<http://www.aefwg.com>

I will add more and more and more!

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:05 PM
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6. Great lists! It's amazing, isn't it?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:50 PM
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17. I love the orange ribbons on your site
Downloaded it just now.
Thanks!
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:06 PM
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7. Add me to that list you are collecting .........
:kick:
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KnowerOfLogic Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:07 PM
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8. Unfortunately, i don't think there are very many of us. The MSM is now
undoubtedly an enemy of democracy, and i exaggerate not a whit. We MUST get at least 50% control of the news media, before any 'people power' movements will ever even get off the ground.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:16 PM
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11. sounds good, how do we do that? start a fund to buy shares?
If we sit and do nothing, we are guaranteed things will stay the same, or worsen as the right wing becomes more entrenched.

If we speak up we will reach more and more people. If not, we are passively waiting to be abused further while giving tacit approval to the current administration and its policies.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:34 PM
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15. Isn't this a chicken or the egg issue? -nt
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:12 PM
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9. REPORTING FOR DUTY!!!
Add me to the list, as well!!! We are fighting for a moral and just cause!! They have seriously miscalculated the indomitable strength of the American Spirit!:bounce: PEACE!!!

WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?????:think:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:22 PM
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13. what ARE they hiding?
Surely not arrogance.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:15 PM
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10. Election fraud, please. Not vote fraud. The voters didn't commit the fraud
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:19 PM
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12. I didn't write "voter" fraud. But thanks for reading so dilligently.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:30 PM
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14. Was referring to "We’re not alone in our fight against vote fraud."
Not invested in being right, but I feel it's important to refer to it in a way that doesn't sound like the voters committed the fraud, because there have been some accusations by BLackwell types of Dem voters casting fraudulent votes.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:48 PM
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16.  OMG! Truthout and a 1,000 newspaper articles all made the same
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 03:54 PM by katinmn
mistake.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/120404W.shtml

Thanks for letting us know!

And thanks for your wonderful contributions to the thread.
MUCH appreciated.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:54 PM
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18. Check out patrickhenrythinktank.org
They are working to contest the vote on their front page.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:58 PM
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20. great! there's a lot of people on this :-) n/t
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 04:05 PM
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22. Maybe someone should start a database of voters dissatisfied with the
current electoral situation. I am a Canadian so couldn't really organize this but it seems there are too many fragmented groups all concerned with the same basic problems. I'm not even sure how it could be done but it would be a good idea to be able to reach all concerned citizens from one place.
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