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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:22 PM
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Where is the "Party" on this fraud?
What is anyone doing about it? I just e-mailed my state chair and also DFA.

Are you guys in contact with anyone at your state party offices or anyone else?
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veteran_for_peace Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:23 PM
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1. Screw the party
The Democratic Party doesn't own this country. We the people do1!!
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:25 PM
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2. Don't we need party leaders to toot a horn, move things?
I mean, it's not like I, myself, personally, can do anything. What is it you think we can do?
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veteran_for_peace Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:27 PM
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6. Every great movement was lead by the common people
India Independence
Bus Boycott
Anti-War Movement
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:35 PM
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12. No, the Republican Party owns this country.
Did you sleep through the election results?

They stole the election and they totally got away with it. That's it, game over. There's no form or scale of protest that the media couldn't ignore or pooh-pooh or portray as the work of a handful of cranks and conspiracy theorists, even if we found a smoking gun of vote fraud. We can't challenge it in Congress - the Republicans own Congress. We can't challenge it in the courts - the Republicans own the courts. And as for world opinion, George Bush wipes his ass on world opinion. It's done, and it's not going to be undone.

Nor are we gonna get 'em next time. They control the election process and they control all the possible avenues for reforming or policing that process. If we couldn't win this time, with the Iraq War and unemployment and the deficit and the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years fresh in our memories, with all the passion and money and blood and sweat we put into getting out the vote, then we can hang it up for next time, and the time after that, and so on.

We live in a one-party state, like Mexico under the PRI. Get used to it, it's going to last a while. Not forever, but definitely a while.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:42 PM
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16. amen
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 06:08 PM by Yuugal
BLah just angry disregard me edited
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luxpara Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:25 PM
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3. Is it just me...
Or does the DNC & Kerry sound a little to quiet about this? Any ideas on what's up?
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:29 PM
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9. I have two trains of thought
One and Im hope Im not right, is that the DNC and Kerry know that there was fraud and its a losing battle and they cant prove it. We will be stuck with Bush and every election from now on in will be stolen from us.

My second thought is something big is going to happen, because Kerry and the DNC are just too quiet.

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TankerKC Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:15 PM
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21. Maybe....
they have accepted the loss and are ready to move on. Somebody had to lose.
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:26 PM
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4. We did our job in PA...
What the hell can we do?

The people in Ohio should be the ones up in arms.

I'm more towards "irreconcilable differences" between the red and the blue every election.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:27 PM
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5. They couldn't say anything until there is proof positive
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:27 PM
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7. Why does it matter
People are blaming the DNC chair, Kerry/Edwards, any one associated with this campaign.

If I were any of them I would say to all the whiners, FUCK YOU!
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UTdem Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:28 PM
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8. It Feels Like
Our "party" left us out to dry. Do you really believe that there is some secret plan to wrest the Presi-duncy from the Repubs?
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:30 PM
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10. They are all in hiding, see,
until we get over it. Because while we knew the election could (and would) be stolen if given one fraction of a chance...somewhere along the line, we became convinced that they had our backs, because we right out busted our asses for them. Well we did...but they didn't. And they won't. Ever.
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luxpara Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:37 PM
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14. I think Kerry did
his best. I know that I thought I could do better at times, but hell!! I wish I knew that something was in the works - because I feel that it's just not over yet. Though maybe because I don't want it to be.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:34 PM
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11. Do you realize that
you can't even get onto the DNC website?

Go to www.democrats.org. The only thing there is Kerry's letter. You think that's a big weird?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:40 PM
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15. hmmm
just a bit...

::Scratches head::
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luxpara Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:42 PM
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18. Michael Moore's closed too...
Oh I wish we knew for sure. I hate hearing people bitch about Kerry "giving up"!!
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:37 PM
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13. I'm counting on Greg Palast, Michael Moore, Bev Harris......
I doubt the DNC has the balls.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:42 PM
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17. Michael Moore has been strangely quiet.
His site's been taken offline as well. Anyone on his email list or get any emails?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:51 PM
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19. maybe people are still in stun/shock mode like I am though I have
been getting better this afternoon. I went from stunned to semi-stunned and now that I keep reading more and more articles on vote fraud AGAIN I am getting so angry I can't even deal with it. Maybe people are studying the issue, I don't know, maybe they're drinking, I wouldn't blame them! This vote fraud is on a massive scale IMHO
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:11 PM
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20. I have poured my energy into studying everything I can find on it
I'm over being stunned, I'm pissed off and more energized than ever before. If we don't get to the bottom of this election fraud, we might as well kiss everything goodbye. No point in working towards 06 and 08 if we can't bring this issue to light.
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