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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:14 PM
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New York Times is MIA - no news on their website at all....
what is up with this supposedly "leftist" newspaper ?
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No Mandate Here. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:21 PM
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1. I'm going to guess that you tried the site
at the exact same time they were loading the top headline about bumping the Tsunami aid to $350 million. It takes a few seconds. It's up now.

Isn't it a wonderful thing that a bit of well placed outrage worked - first $15 million, the $35, now $350 million.

Someone embarrassed the heck out of 'em.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:23 PM
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2. I still don't see anything about the Conyers letter.....
if you see it, please send us the link. Thanks :-)
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:23 PM
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3. the Washington Post is also MIA on their website re: Conyers nt
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 05:10 PM
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19. Washington Post website is still silent about Conyers
Edited on Fri Dec-31-04 05:23 PM by steve2470
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:28 PM
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4. MIA please share what that means?Thanks n/t
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old blue Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:31 PM
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5. MIA=missing in action eom
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:31 PM
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6. mia = missing in action nt
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:40 PM
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10. Oh yes...got ya I thought it was like AP or somethingLOL thanks !!
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:32 PM
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7. I just emailed the NYT and demanded that they cover Conyers nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:33 PM
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8. And I sent Will's article to Okrent and to Letters yesterday
If they can't get the news to me, I guess I'll have to get it to them <g>
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:34 PM
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9. Is it time for us to send 'em tons of e-mails?
And ask why they haven't covered this?

The MSM sucks.

Maybe we need to send it to foreign newspapers who still care how to report news.

This isn't some "conspiracy theory" bullshit - Conyers REALLY wrote the letter.

Grrr...:mad:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:46 PM
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11. Mail to public@nytimes.com
That's the public editor. His office just massed mailed us and said, there's no proof of fraud AND to "stay tuned".

Mail him Will's article.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:57 PM
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12. ok I just did that, hope he reads it asap nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:14 PM
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14. we ALL need to mail it. We've seen that they respond if the
numbers get big enough.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:14 PM
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15. Clark... call them the Corporate Media instead of the MSM...
There's nothing "mainstream" about their agenda of greed.

NGU.


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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:23 PM
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16. I ususally call them the cWHOREporate media or
the lame-stream media.

And I used to BE a member of this once-well-respected establishment. Of course, I quit to stay at home with my son and then went on into marketing/P.R. later - this all before Murdoch changed the face of reporting for the worse.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:24 PM
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17. That's right . aka "the Free Pass"
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:12 PM
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13. Owning the media

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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 05:07 PM
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18. still nothing on Conyers at NY Times nt
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 05:13 PM
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20. finally, a MSM outlet(?) covers the story.....
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041231/sff049_1.html

<snip>

Rep. John Conyers, ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, recently announced that on January 6, he and several other members of the House will object to the counting of the Ohio Electors. Conyers is expected to seek additional support from the following Senators: Joseph Biden (DE), Jeff Bingaman (NM), Barbarba Boxer (CA), Robert Byrd (WV), Hillary Clinton (NY), Kent Conrad (ND), Jon Corzine (NJ), Christopher Dodd (CT), Byron Dorgan (ND), Richard Durbin (IL), Russell Feingold (WI), Tom Harkin (IA), Daniel Inyoue (HI), James Jeffords (VT), Edward Kennedy (MA), John Kerry (MA), Frank Lautenberg (NJ), Patrick Leahy (VT), Carl Levin (MI), Joseph Lieberman (CT), Barbara Mikulski (MD), Bill Nelson (FL), Jack Reed (RI), Harry Reid (NV), Jay Rockefeller (WV), Paul Sarbanes (MD), Debbie Stabenow (MI), Ron Wyden (OR), and the newly elected Barack Obama (IL).

"We expect several members of the House to call for a challenge, but without a single supporter from the Senate, Congress cannot act," said Don Goldmacher, Chair of Wellstone Democratic Renewal Club's Voting Rights Task Force. "This is the scenario we faced after the last election -- memorialized so well in "Fahrenheit 9/11" -- when no U.S. Senator stood up to support members of the Congressional Black Caucus. We can't let that happen again. As Jesse Jackson has said, 'we are not whining for a lost election, but crying out for a fair one.'"

Detailing evidence and testimonials of voter suppression and intimidation at the press conference will be the following civic and political leaders: DOLORES HUERTA, United Farm Workers co-founder and civil rights leader; WALTER RILEY, labor/civil rights attorney, East Bay Votes; MARGOT SMITH, Gray Panthers; MICHAEL EISENSCHER, U. S. Labor Against the War; MAX ANDERSON, Berkeley City Council, 1st Municipal Voting Rights Resolution; TIM PAULSON, Executive Director, San Francisco Labor Council, AFL-CIO; and MICHAEL GOLDSTEIN, Harvey Milk LGBT Democratic Club.

The speakers will address numerous charges of suppression, intimidation, machine error and fraud in several key states. Problems encountered in Ohio include waits as long as eleven hours at polling places; shortages of poll workers and voting machines; electronic voting machines that malfunctioned; election-counting discrepancies; voters being directed to the wrong polling place, and uneven policies governing the use of provisional ballots. In Florida, questions persist regarding fraud as well as irregularities in counties that relied on paperless electronic voting machines. In New Mexico, there is ample evidence that approximately 21,000 undervotes occurred in heavily Democratic precincts on machines that are known to produce faulty counts. A recount would certainly have overturned the election outcome.

<snip>
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 05:32 PM
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21. Also in that article:
E-Voting Problems Hurt Republicans and Democrats Alike

Speakers will address other recent instances of irregularities in the electronic voting system, including the Washington State gubernatorial race where the results recently shifted in favor of Christine Gregoire, the Democratic challenger, after voting officials discovered that electronic voting machines incorrectly tallied 500 votes for Dino Rossi, the Republican in the race. Rossi is now calling for a state-wide revote.

"It's interesting that Republicans are willing to look at e-voting problems when the results go against them," said Goldmacher. "Rossi recently told voters that the 'uncertainty surrounding this election process isn't just bad for you and me -- it is bad for the entire state,' and that 'people need to know for sure that the next governor actually won the election.' Those are the same concerns that voters have about the 2004 presidential election. We urge all political parties to advocate the same principles of fairness to all elections."


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The only way E-voting hurts republicans is when there is a recount. Democrats are hurt because the vote is allowed to stand!
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