OR Dems sign resolution to stand with Conyers!

[JoMama49]

We encourage and will support our elected officials as follows:

U.S. Representatives Earl Blumenauer, Peter DeFazio, Darlene Hooley, David Wu, and Greg Walden we encourage and support

* a public and aggressive participation, alongside Congressional Representatives Conyers, Nadler, Wexler, Holt, Scott, Watt, Baldwin, Miller, Slaughter, Filner, Lee, Meeks, Olver, and Schakowsky in calling upon the Government Accountability Office (GAO), to perform a timely and thorough investigation into all voting irregularities nationwide
* a public pledge to challenge the electors from any and all states where irregularities and possible fraud have surfaced

Senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith, we encourage and support

* a public pledge to step forward and concur with any such challenges to state electors brought by members of the U.S. House of Representatives

http://www.dpo.org/news/documents/1780.html

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. We need to call all the state Democratic Parties Headquarters

and get them to do the same thing that the Oregon DPO has just done.

This is great! Way to go Oregon.

[JoMama49]

7. Does anyone have a link to Dems headquarters in every

State? If so, I think we should send a copy of Oregon's resolution and encourage them to do likewise!

[Amaryllis]

27. This was done, the first week in December.

If you look at the link, you will see that part of the resolution was "to forward a copy of the letter to the Democratic National Committee (DNC)."

In addition,one of the CleanVote folks came up with an e-mail list of about 2500 state and county Democratic parties. The letter and a request to take similar actions was sent out to all.

[marions ghost]

10. Yes, all of them should be contacted

--they need to know that support exists for any state Dem party who follows Oregon's lead. There is opportunity for state organizations to strengthen if they do this.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. Here's a link to a directory

to find the Democratic Party Offices in every state.

http://search.looksmart.com/p/browse/us1/us317916/us53358/us53391/us53393/us10008161/

If I find a better link, I'll replace this one.

[marions ghost]

15. thanks--very helpful, dyeverwonder

I will send email to as many as I can.

[Amaryllis]

21. Oregon didn't JUST do it. We did it end of November. We were forward

thinking.

[TexasChick]

2. Is this enough, JoMama? Is this all we needed to challenge the electors

on the 6th? Sorry, I'm still confused about all of this. I'm politically challenged.

[JoMama49]

4. No, Texas Chick, this is NOT enough -- we still need

Senators to stand with Conyers on the 6th as well, but this helps because it is a formal resolution passed by the Oregon Democratic party, and it helps put more pressure on the Senators, I believe.

[rodeodance]

9. need ONE brave Senator (this resolution was dated Dec, 4)

it has been almost a month since this memo and no Senator has stepped forward!!

[TexasChick]

12. Thanks, JoMama. It's still not enough.....rats! n/t

[mamalone]

16. so does this mean..

...that the Oregon DC has said that it supports the contesting of the election? That seems pretty significant to me, given the silence of the DC in general on the subject...am I reading this right? Do you think this could be the beginning of the DC changing its public tune on the subject of fraud?

[Amaryllis]

25. Here's the history on this; Hopefully it will answer your questions.

Right after the election, a work group of Multnomah County Dems called Clean Vote started working on this resolution.
A lot of careful thought went into the wording. They wanted a clear statement of what they were requesting with supportive rather than threatening language.

The resolution was passed by Multnomah County Dems, and then was hand delivered to the offices of Wyden and the reps starting in late November. This is a signed copy of that resolution.
http://www.multdems.org/public/Letters/clean-vote.pdf

The date is the date it was delivered to Wu's office. The others were delivered earlier.

On December 4, one of the Multnomah County Dems took the resolution to the state central committee meeting and it was passed. That is the one that JoMama posted.

I have posted this on several other threads but didn't think to start a thread, probably because I am new and have only been able to start threads for about a week.

[Nothing Without Hope]

3. Let's hope they do stand with Conyers

With all the "it's political suicide" buzz going around about any senators that dare to stand on Jan 6, it's going to take a lot of courage. Now we'll see who really cares about the future of this country.

[Pithy Cherub]

5. Orgeon Dems are magnificent!

:yourock: May the Oregon Dems leadership & backbone cascade to all 50 states!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. December 4, 2004

Is the date at the bottom. Why are we just seeing this now?

I love my State!!! :bounce:

[JoMama49]

8. I'm not sure why it took so long for this to surface,

especially here at DU where we're all on the alert, but apparently that is the date of the Resolution.

[joevoter]

18. I have had it posted on

http://www.aefwg.com a month ago and posted about it on DU as well. There is so much info to dig through things sometimes get overlooked. Our small group in Oregon is going to pay a visit to Ron Wydens Medford office on Monday (he won't be there) and ask that he contest the election results. In a town hall meeting on Nov 3 in Medford, in front of 200-300 people, he said that he would if FRAUD was found. Let's hold him to his promise.

[Amaryllis]

29. Joe, can you take the resolution when you go? I know it got

delivered to Wyden's Portland office because I was there, but don't know about any other state offices. Since it was passed by the state Dems, it will have some clout.

Here are some good talking points from The Dean People in NJ for talking to staff of senators:
“We the People Do Not Concede”
http://www.unioncountyfordemocracy.org/files/we_do_not_concede.html

Restoring Sanity, Point-by-Point
Creating the Context Required to Win the Fight for the Integrity of This Election

http://www.unioncountyfordemocracy.org/files/restoring_sanity_point_by_point.html

[joevoter]

31. Will do... I am working on a rather big ASAP effort right now in OR

I will announce it on monday. No teaser intendid. Just want to make sure all of the facts are straight and the effort is focussed with trusted people. You can email me if you like and I will reply when I post here on Monday.

[e-mail]

www.aefwg.com

PS... I did fax out a bunch of signed actionspeaks petitions but they only called for a public statement. We need to ask Wyden to contest (object to counting) the votes.

[Terre]

34. I'm sure you've thought of this. . .

and since . . . he said that he would if FRAUD was found, please remind him that fraud can ONLY be found IF an investigation is STARTED, and an investigation won't get started until someone stands up to CHALLENGE or DEMAND one.

Thanks Joe

[joevoter]

35. Yes... an investigation must be started by Congress

That is why I have been sending (and hosting) 3 separate letters. One to ask for a public statement, one to contest Ohio, and one to contest other states and demand an investigation. I like Collin Powell's quote about the Ukraine coming back to haunt them "We cannot accept this result as legitimate because it does not meet international standards and because there has not been an investigation of the numerous and credible reports of fraud and abuse."

[Amaryllis]

37. Exactly. Fraud does not have to be proven. See post 29 for Dean

People talking points. They have excellent counter-arguments to this. They are also in the process of revising their talking points for clarity. I will post when I hear from them.

What has been documented is massive voter suppression and discrimination. So if they say they will only contest if proven fraud, does this mean massive voter suppression and discrimination is okay?

Then they say it wasn't enough to swing the election.
1. How do they know? All it takes is 11 votes per precinct in OH to swing the election.
2. This is irrelevant. It is intolerable regarless of whether it was enough to swing the election. Are they going to send another statement to the voters like they did in 2000 that massive discrimination is tolerable?

We will be watching on C-span to see what they do!

[CabalPowered]

11. NIce that they support but nothing binding here

This is only the OR Dem Party passing a resolution to SUPPORT.. the representatives if they so wish to stand with Conyers. They are not bound to do anything..

Defazio is our best chance in the house. I know Smith is out, being the Mormon Repug he is. Wyden...um I wouldn't think so. Although he might be feeling frisky now that he has his long-sought Senate Finance Committe seat.

edit: spelling

[Amaryllis]

23. Some poople wanted lots stronger language but if you want the state Dems

to sign on...it was as strong as it could be and still get agreement to pass it.

[burn the bush]

14. Conyers has been saying in interviews that he is sure that several

senators will be standing to challenge the electoral votes. So i think he has probably been in touch with them and knows some are going to back him.

[mzmolly]

17. But, aren't they part of the "SPINLESS DEMOCRATIC PARTY?!"

:eyes:

Good for them!

[myschkin]

19. This is good news!

:-)

[Amaryllis]

20. I posted this but never thought to start a thread on it! We hand delivered

it to Wyden's aide and all the rep's aides end of November. Smith's aide wouldn't meet.

Had it been now, the language would have been stronger and Conyer's work would have been mentioned. This was written over a month ago.

Actually I was too new to start threads until about a week ago.

[nickdw]

22. they signed?

"We encourage and will support our elected officials" but I don't see signatories / signatures to that effect on the page. It's great dpo is putting down the mat for Rep. dems but this isn't the same as officials signing a resolution. Keep us posted, Jomama49.

[Straight Shooter]

24. Greg Walden is a Republican, a self-serving Republican.

One of the worst. When I wrote him to strongly encourage him to support an investigation of the Plame matter, he responded by saying that "things are not always what they appear," blah, blah, blah, patronizing letter.

BTW, I wrote him after the facts were well-known. I suppose he doesn't think it in his best interest to rock the Repub boat.

[TexasChick]

28. Oh, good grief. Same thing happened with me and my Reich Wing

fundie brother. Sent him a link with dead on issues about the Chimp administration. All he could respond back with is "blah blah blah". I guess that's the Repuke mantra, if you don't have answers reply back with "blah blah blah" or something similar, dress it up to make it look reasonable.

And, WTF kind of answer is "things are not always what they appear", when it comes to outing a CIA operate? How can you argue with idiotic logic like that? Uh, boy!

[Bill Bored]

26. "ANY AND ALL STATES" I Love it!

That's any state without a VVPB and/or audit procedures to use it right? Uh, let's see, that would be FLORIDA among others.

We shouldn't single out Ohio, although they certainly deserve our attention!

[Terre]

30. COOL!

:kick: ORegon - You make me PROUD!

[pacalo]

32. This is wonderful -- thanks, Oregon Democrats!

[drummer55]

33. Lots of groups in Oregon

www.actionspeaksportland.org

www.truthinvoting.org

www.cleanvote.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome


If you are from oregon then find a group and help them to encourage Wyden to stand up for the citizens of Oregon and contest this fraud.



Remember we're not looking at it from the point of view of
the winner or the loser. We're looking at it from the point of view
of the voter! The election is not over. Make every vote count.

[joevoter]

36. Stay tuned for an Oregon action on Monday

Please list all of the Oregon E.F. action groups that you know of on this thread. I know of most but I don't want to miss any.

Thanks- joevoter
www.aefwg.com

[katinmn]

38. I forwarded this to the MN DFL yesterday

Would love them to follow suit.
Will see what happens Monday.

[Amaryllis]

41. Let us know when you find out. I've learned it 's really crucial to follow

up on these actions...maybe everyone else already knew that.

[joevoter]

39. Here is part of a larger Oregon effort for Jan 3-5

www.votewyden.org


We want Ron to know that his actions on November 6 will be watched by many and will be posted on this web site for years to come. Our message is that we support him in contesting and investigating the 2004 election results and that we will support him in this with our future votes and campaign contributions. If he does not stand up against election fraud that will also be posted on the web site in a factual and tasteful way.

[zapped 1]

40. kick