Love to all: But I really don't think our chances are very good.

[Ladyhawk]

BTW, I just wanted to pop in say that I love you all and so very much respect the work you are doing for all of us. I had to mostly drop out of this monumental search for truth because of health concerns. Regardless of what the truth is, this election MUST be questioned. The clencher for me was the fraud concerning the recount. :eyes: Wow, something fishy this way swims.

Unfortunately, I think the powers that be will crush this. They cannot allow dissent. I am afraid our senators are too wimpy. I am afraid that true change may take a revolution of some kind. The weed will never allow this investigation to go forward.

I see how incredibly optimistic some of you are and it scares me. I don't want to see your hopes crushed, but I'm fairly certain that is what will happen. I hope not. Truly. I am afraid you are expecting Deus ex machina. I just don't see how we can pull a win out of this. But I will help you try.

This week I will write my senators every single day: Feinstein and Boxer. Feinstein's a lost cause, but maybe, just maybe, Boxer will step forward.

Fellow Californians: if this goes the way I think it's going to go, we need to find a real progressive to run against Feinstein. We need to start mobilizing and threatening the Democratic wimps in Congress. Here in California, I believe we can find progressive candidates to run against entrenched incumbents. Why the hell not? If Feinstein doesn't represent us, let's find somebody who will.

The same goes for every Democratic Congressperson! Vote them out...vote real change in.

Of course, we have to fix the election process...damn, this is going to be rough. :(

:grouphug:

I really do respect the work many of you do, but what I'm seeing is a "pollyanna" reality in this forum. God, I hope I'm wrong.

Again, nothing against you...it's just I don't think this optimism is warranted. Love and thanks to you...we need to try anyway.

-A Very Tired, Sad Ladyhawk

[sepia_steel]

1. Yes, optimism is always scary, isn't it?

Sorry, you seem like a really nice person. But there are people in here who will fight until voting is real and fair again. PLEASE, people, STOP DISCOURAGING US! We really do mean business!

[alittlelark]

5. Ladyhawk deals from a REAL WORLD perspective

She lives it every day. She is an idealistic realist, IMHO.

Others of us have dreams that we are actively attachings wings and motors to.

Both thought-processes can produce results

[sepia_steel]

7. So do I.

I just think that all this "it's never going to happen" stuff is just as premature as any other belief. People are trying to keep working, and everytime someone says "sorry people, it won't happen," it is that much harder to keep fighting. Hope is not a bad thing.

[fooj]

45. Hope is not a bad thing...Agreed!!!

It's been a long, exhausting ride, hasn't it? When I'm feeling down or frustrated- this helps! PEACE and a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!:hi:

"If you lose hope, somehow you lose the vitality that keeps life moving, you lose that courage to be, that quality that helps you go on in spite of it all. And so today, I still have a dream."- MLK JR.



WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?????:think:

[nashville_brook]

47. no doubt -- everyone, everywhere is saying this

why not be a little supportive of people? if we wanted to hear discouraging words we could all watch FOX!

[Ladyhawk]

15. Thanks. There's a place for all of us in this fight.

Just because I don't think anything will come of this right away doesn't mean I will just lay down and die.

We'll have to organize from the grassroots and put people in power who WILL challenge the neo-fascists. That road will take time. And if that doesn't work, we may have to organize some kind of peaceful revolution. That will be even harder because I think the neo-fascists will try to shut us down if we talk seriously about revolution.

[Ladyhawk]

6. If you are truly hopeful, I don't think my little post will discourage you

I know you mean business. I do too. I'll continue to fight as I can. It's just I see the situation differently. That won't stop us from being friends, will it?

Peace.

:grouphug:

[sepia_steel]

10. No, absolutely not. :) n/t

:grouphug:

[nashville_brook]

46. we could probably do without the discouragement

friends respect each other

[nashville_brook]

33. amen! so tired of the condescension!

i think there's alot more to be worried about than people feeling crushed.

if someone here gets emotionally scarred from doing political work -- they can ask for a :grouphug: if and when they need it. until then it would be great if we could come to this forum and get some info and some work done without having to wade thru Chicken Soup for the Election Fraud Soul.

[bunny planet]

48. Absolutely. We do mean business. If it's hopelessly optimistic to expect

my democracy to actually be a democracy, then call me a card carrying optimist. I've been called worse. Negativity has never gotten me anything of value in this life, and it's not going to help us now. I appreciate the concerns that people have about all of us setting ourselves up to be disappointed but really I could not have coped any other way. These six weeks of hoping and fighting has actually been what has gotten me through after the election went down the way it did. Fighting on after January 20th, no matter what the outcome is the most important thing I can do. I have to have hope, for my children, for my friends, for my country. Living with hope is the only way I personally want to live. Living without hope is just existing.

[Left coast liberal]

2. We hope you feel better soon! Cheers! n/t

[TexasChick]

3. Thanks, Ladyhawk. This, for me, is gonna be a "wait and see" thing like

it has always been for me. But, hey, if other DUers want to be pollyanna's, it's all good!



Peace to you, my friend.

[Ladyhawk]

8. Peace and thanks.

I think people feel all different ways about this. I can accept that. But realistically, I just can't expect the best in this situation. We will wait and see, like you said.

I love that picture of Kerry and I hope he comes through for us. We need the Democrats to be leaders!

[ClassWarrior]

36. Wait and see what, Tex??

There is no deadline, no moment of truth... It's an ongoing battle, our battle for our precious democracy. And whether a Senator steps up or not, whether Bush** is illegally inaugurated for the second time in a row, the battle goes on. We shift tactics and we fight harder. Smarter. Better.

“The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.”
- Thomas Jefferson

And we shall overcome.

Because we will...

Never Give Up.

[TexasChick]

51. Oh, I wasn't talking about giving up, Class. I was just only talking

about the senators part of it. That's what I meant about the "wait and see".

[Maat]

4. I know how you are feeling.

Sometimes I wonder how much we can really control. But there are some things I can:

1. I can teach my daughter to honor and respect all committed families.

2. I can teach my daughter that women can achieve their goals.

3. I can introduce her to fellow progressives and explain to her the value of our principles.

4. I can vote for progressive candidates, and teach my daughter to do the same.

5. I can teach her how to support reproductive rights, and why.

6. I can patronize as many Blue businesses as I can.

7. I can join together with others of progressive faiths, and show how true believers (in God, human interconnectedness, or peace) behave.

8. I can support Americans United for Separation of Church and State and Planned Parenthood and Parents and Friends of Gays and Lesbians.

9. I can support progressive communication via supporting democraticunderground.com and Air America, and the like.

10. I can support Arneback and Conyers, and get copies of their findings, and preserve documentation of election fraud, and keep the noise about reform going on.

11. I can keep e-mailing my reps. about pertinent issues.

That way, I can say I gave it every effort.

[Ladyhawk]

12. Conyers is a true hero.

I'm sure he's suffering a lot of flak for what he's doing.

I don't have television, currently, so I don't know what the msm is saying, not that it really matters.

I am going to harass my senators this week and send encouragement to Conyers. I hope it's enough.

[RevCheesehead]

35. Hey, Ladyhawk - take good care of yourself.

While you're harassing your senators, you might like to inform Feinstein that you see her as "a lost cause," and how that will have an effect on your vote in future elections.

Sometimes those comments will cause politicians to pay attention.

Then again, if she does nothing, she may find herself the next victim of Election Fraud, when she is unseated by her Republican challenger.

[Ladyhawk]

17. This is a beautiful list. Your daughter is very lucky.

I had a fundamentalist upbringing, so I know what we are fighting. It will not be easy. This strange alliance of neo-cons and dominionists is strong and they feel righteous anger when they confront our beliefs. They feel as strongly as we do and when that happens, clashes follow.

[Helga Scow Stern]

9. I see what you are saying. Like I just wrote on another thread, the system

has gotten so far away from representing the people that even if all the Dems stood up with a few Republicans on the 6th, we'd still have a very, very long haul ahead of us. This opportunity on the sixth is really the most exciting because we get to see just who does have some integrity, and then fan that like a spark in a windstorm. And if no one does? Well, we are just going to have to keep at it until we become as powerful and as organized as the opposition. It will happen. It may take years. Thinking it's going to change on January 6, and that if no one does stand up then it's all over is a huge mistake, and I thank you for reminding me of it.

If no one does stand up, which is certainly an outcome, then the shaming will have to begin.

I think we should be organized to hit the ground running with emails and faxes to all Senators and media in the eventuality that no one contests the vote. Instead of going into quiet desperation for 4 more years or for the rest of our lives, we will have to keep raising consciousness and raising hell about the truth. It's not like the country loves the evil regime. A weird minority does. Look at how many came out to defeat him. It will take time, and it is all on schedule, if we keep working and not slipping into dismay.

The thing that can change history now is that we the people are involved. It just may not happen over night, and that is what we have to accept. That AND that no one but no one is going to save us but ourselves.

[Turn CO Blue]

54. Amen to all of that Ojai.

People once thought Napolean was invincible. And Hitler in the '40's. And King George in the 1770's.

Justice always finds a way, and the people will help it along because we must.


_______________________________________________
Truth. Peace. Beauty. Love. Honor.

[Melissa G]

11. Ladyhawk ...Hope you feel better!

I am not particularly optimistic in the short run but I am passionate with Hope for Truth in the long run! These * guys are walking around in a house of cards with BIG FAT LIES as their foundations. They will crash Big Time! The only question is When?
I can wait if I must but sooner would be Better!
Happy New Year!

[Ladyhawk]

14. Right. If change happens, it probably won't come overnight.

We may actually have to join a third party to oust the cowardly Democrats. I'm serious about that. I'm ready to organize and send them packing.

Going by their past behavior, I don't expect them to stand up for us on the sixth. Maybe one or two will and that will help. We will know who is on our side like the above post says. That will be GOOD. We will champion the courageous and drive the cowardly out.

That is probably what we will have to do.

For those that hold out hope that the sixth will bring real change, I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!

[Ladyhawk]

23. Thanks. I need surgery.

The pain clouds everything, unfortunately. I'm waiting for an MRI and a surgery date.

I must find someone to care for my animals.

[FreepFryer]

13. Have Hope.

One thing - I would say that Feinstein is not a lost cause, and we should not put every Dem politician under the 'bulls-eye' any more than we should expect of our Dem politicians in general. They are OUR party (DNC)'s elected reps and we should not jettison them to spite our face. Let's put the GOP folks under the real bullseye, while we keep the pressure on as respectful constituents. There are a lot of these defeatist threads these past few days, which ironically gives me increased confidence that we're getting to the real fight. While we reach out for help from our fellow DU'ers, let's not encourage an implosion and discourage others!

As I mentioned in another thread re: hope:

If the Electoral College certifies the vote for GWB on Jan. 6, as is the overwhelming likelihood, we will have had an election where, despite detailed, complex evidence of massive fraud, party politics won out hands down despite the core proposition of our democracy: Fair, Competitive Elections.

The Constitutional momentum - the 'mandate' - that this will give us in pursuing election reform and identifying those responsible for fraud will be massive, WHEN framed correctly by the Dems. And I do believe there is a lot of wisdom, and power evident in Kerry's conspicuous quietness amongst this frenzy.

The abuses against the House (ethics guideline eliminations, etc.) that are underway are gross and perverse, but the Liberal Democratic movement will have been handed the ultimate keys to success against those who would so freely rig an unfair election, should such partisanship be evident on Jan 6.

We can do it - It may seem like a few footprints behind us, but they can be seen all the way back past Women's Suffrage.

Remember - this is only the beginning. We must do what the Right has done so well - muster our resources, our children, our educational systems, and make long-term investments in growing understanding and acceptance of our world view while combatting those opposed to the pre-eminence of civil liberties. Except, we must do it without deceit and division. We can, and we will.

[glitch]

16. Beautifully said. Welcome to DU! nt

[Maat]

18. Hang in there, everyone!

The truth always comes out. I don't know why this Administration's members don't understand that. And, when it does ...

I know it doesn't seem like it, but some good will come out of all of this. It will.

[Ladyhawk]

21. Did the truth come out about the JFK assassination?

I'm not sure.

Did the truth come out about 9-11.

Probably not.

Mike Malloy says we will never know the truth about these things. I tend to agree with him.

Again, I hope the eternal optimists are right.

:)

Peace and Love,

LH

:grouphug:

[Helga Scow Stern]

28. I would have to say I don't know the whole truth about those things....

it never occurred to me about JFK. Too young maybe. With 9/11 I knew there was something very fishy. But those were as murky as dirty water compared to the way this election was stolen right on international TV.

And something was stolen from millions of people that they cared a great deal about. They just aren't fully aware of it yet. But they will catch on, in time.

[TexasChick]

29. Most of the truth about 9/11 has come out, but kept under wraps, thanks

to the damn liberal media!


But, the truth did come out about Watergate! Just something to ponder on...

[FreepFryer]

30. There's still time for that.

Secrets are expensive to protect.

There is no statute of limitations for murder, and no forgiveness in our cultural background for domestic state-sanctioned political assassination.

I would not be surprised at all if one of the many theories advanced thus far (including The Lone Gunman) was the truth, and the evidence exists in some form to prove it.

It could indeed be said that there has been no release of power from the benefitting interest (the military corporatists) since that day - the Johnson succession on 22 November, 1963. Or MLK, or RFK.

These were our Liberal heroes. We will avenge them with Justice, not violence, someday.

[Ladyhawk]

20. Welcome to DU.

I don't feel this is a "defeatist" thread. I feel it is a "realist" thread. People are all over the map when it comes to how they view future events.

I feel I have as much right to express myself as anyone else.

Yes, I hope Jan. 6 brings in a new era of honest government, but the chances are rather slim. I'll be watching.

What time does Congress meet on the sixth and how can I get information without my television? And how can I yell at my senators if they don't stand with Conyers? :)

[FreepFryer]

24. Please do express yourself

You do have every right - if I implied you didn't, I apologize. I meant to express mine, that out-and-out trashing of all the Dems that don't speak out, in the process of soul-searching post-2004 Election, was a bad move for us collectively and that we shouldn't do it.

The fun begins at 1EST ish, I believe, and will be carried on CSPAN1 and CSPAN2 (also available on the net at cspan.org)

You can reach out to your senators a buncha ways - but my fave is by going to http://www.thehill.com and scrolling down - enter your zip code in the 'America Reacts' box and your elected reps' contact info will appear.

[Ladyhawk]

25. Yes, it's probably a better idea to pressure the Dems a little bit...

and rake the Republicans over the coals.

How do we do that?

I know a Republican in the California Senate. He's an asshole, but maybe I could tell him my medical woes and chastise him. He should be ashamed for how he's contributed to lack of health care in this county. But he's not.

[FreepFryer]

26. Bingo!

And I do hope you feel better soon. I'm sure you can get great referrals for in-Network docs from folks in this crowd.

[marcologico]

22. It all depends on what we're trying to accomplish:

To prevent Bush from taking the oath of office? Not likely.

To plant doubts about the legitimacy of the election and prepare the ground for future investigations leading to indictments and possibly resignations? Most likely.

To make senators and reps aware of the problem and of OUR awareness it? Absolutely!!!

[Ladyhawk]

38. Yes, exactly.

We have to be very vocal, don't we?

[marcologico]

42. That's the key!

If they know we know they know, they'll get on it!

[Daybreaker]

19. There is every possibility that we will fail.

But if we do fail, it won't be because we didn't show up. :)

[Shalom]

27. In The Eternal Scheme of Things, Bushitler Will Pay for His Crimes...

Remember thaat Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini were considered to be absolute tryants who had complete control of Germany and Italy.

The Nazis boasted they would be in power for a 1,000 Year Reich.

After 12 years of the 1,000 year Reich, Hitler and his mistress Eva Braun commmited sucicide, and their colleagues tried to burn their bodies with gasoline, like diseased carcasses. The Russians found the charred remains, and must have fed the burnt flesh to wild dogs or something like that: we still don't know.

Mussolini was strung up by his heels like a carcass of beef, and murdered by an angry mob.

Have faith in eternal justice.

[Clark2008]

31. Reluctantly, but, truthfully, I agree with you

I hate to say - jeez, it's like jinxing yourself - but I don't think all we're doing will amount to a pattie of rice in China.

There as a time, two weeks ago, when I thought we might get taken seriously, but now - well, I doubt it.

I will keep fighting and challenging and bitching and moaning and sending out info - but our efforts are failing because the cWHOREporate media isn't responding in any fair shake.

I think our first efforts should be on them - on those who suppose they know what's best for us, but, sigh, until there's a revolution, there will be no change.

BTW, I have an acre of land. If anyone wants to start bunkering, my land is open to those who would dig and set it up. I can always say that I'm having workers for flood prevention.

Like a boy scout, be prepared.

[ClassWarrior]

32. Optimism is the path to success.

Optimism is always warranted.

You don't think our chances of what are very good? Snatching our precious democracy from the jaws of evil?? I think our chances on THAT are excellent. 100%.

We will win.

By the way, thanx again for Rage Against The Machines. You've enlightened quite a few anonymous recepients in my neighborhood.

Peace, Ladyhawk. :hug:

Never Give Up.

[Turn CO Blue]

55. Faith is the substance of things hoped for...

Nothing is impossible. No foe in invincible.

NGU!


___________________________________________
Truth. Peace. HOPE. Faith. Beauty. Love. Honor.

[fearnobush]

34. Our Chances are not what matters on Jan 6th. What matters is the need

for our party to stand up (Grow a Spine) and finally represent us. If our Senators fail to do so - then we must work to replace them with real democrats, with real leaders that are willing to stand up against the fascists and truly fight for our democracy. A real leader is someone, who in the face of opposition is willing to stick there neck out, risk their career and fight for what we, they believe in. The pukes no know bounds in fighting for there corruption and for there greed. Our Democratic Senators are too scared to get the Paul Wellstone treatment. They are indeed weak.
This was always an eight year cause for me. I never could have believed that Kerry would be allowed to win under the current DNC leadership. They never fought for paper trails. They never fought to end the suppression of the black vote in Florida or anywhere else, they never even spoke out against the oppression of Florida 2000!!! To me. that was clear sign that they never had any real intension to truly fight for our rights and fight for democracy. For that, I give them one last chance - Jan 6th, 2005. That day is much more important to the Democratic party than Nov 2nd. If they choose to lay down on that day, myself and many tens of thousands of hard core Democratic supporters, and ..... DONORS - will LEAVE them in the dust. I for one will only back those like Conyers, Dean, Waters (The Democratic wing of the democratic party). I will shun the rest. No money for them. No money or support for the republican wing of the Democratic party.

[FreepFryer]

39. I would ask only

that you consider making your evaluation over Bush/Cheney 2004-2008, not leave it up to the Jan 6 decision. Your passion is so obviously well-meaning and powerful (as is everyone's here).

If the Dems drop the ball, I too may consider leaving, and going Green, after a lifetime of Democratic party adherence. But I'm not going to base it on expecting them all to contest the Election (even though they should!).

[ClassWarrior]

41. Have you gotten involved in your county Dem party??

Before you go Green, try getting involved and shifting the party yourself. If we all do this, WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

:grouphug:

NGU.

[FreepFryer]

44. I am already

extremely involved. :)

And involved as well with the Green and Lib party, to a much lesser extent. I do believe we need to set our 'house' straight in the Party to a fundamental degree in order to de-corporatize. I'm not yet confident that change can happen, there's an extreme amount of money involved in the major party politics and advocacy is suffering greatly. I want to fight TOMORROW's fights, not yesterday's all over again!

[ClassWarrior]

40. You mention Paul Wellstone.

His wing of the Democratic Party - the aforementioned Democratic wing - stresses service, getting involved, changing things ourselves. You're frustration with the party would be amply assuaged, I think, by joining your county party and running for an office.

Up for it fearnobush?? :)

NGU.

[fearnobush]

52. Already am involved locally.

I live in a repub county as well and have done work for numerious local and state offices. My county is changing slowly, but my contacts high up in the state leadership want nothing at all to do with the fraud issue. It's taboo, they won't touch it. They fear it will drive the soccer mom types not to vote. However, our local liberal Democratic group is very aware and our youger members have posted fliers at the community college regarding the fraud issue. It's good grass roots stuff.

[Ladyhawk]

43. Yes, this is what I'm feeling.

"This was always an eight year cause for me. I never could have believed that Kerry would be allowed to win under the current DNC leadership. They never fought for paper trails. They never fought to end the suppression of the black vote in Florida or anywhere else, they never even spoke out against the oppression of Florida 2000!!! To me. that was clear sign that they never had any real intension to truly fight for our rights and fight for democracy. For that, I give them one last chance - Jan 6th, 2005. That day is much more important to the Democratic party than Nov 2nd. If they choose to lay down on that day, myself and many tens of thousands of hard core Democratic supporters, and ..... DONORS - will LEAVE them in the dust. I for one will only back those like Conyers, Dean, Waters (The Democratic wing of the democratic party). I will shun the rest. No money for them. No money and support for the Republican wing of the democratic party."

Very good quote.

I think we should pressure them, first and like I said above, figure out a way to rake the evil Republicans over the coals. How is it that up became down? I was raised by religious right types and believed in what they taught. How is it that they got me to believe their shit. And why was I able to get out while others stay?

[Peggy Day]

37. can't we just be a little optimistic until Jan 7?

I emailed my mom, sister and brother in Ohio with the reasons I thought the election was stolen. There was an article from election solarbus that shared some of the major points of the election fraud that I emailed. They probably don't feel the same way, my mom said "they counted them and they were about the same as before".

Until Jan 7, I am holding out hope for our democracy.
You are right, and it may not happen, but there is a place in me that believes. Call me a stupid optimist, but I don't want to give up on people just yet.

After the 20th if he is inaugurated, I will turn my attention elsewhere-but I cannot stand to watch him anymore-it's visceral anguish.

Then I'll concentrate on media reform or election reform.

[fooj]

49. consider this...

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty!"-Churchill

I wrote a letter to Kerry a few weeks ago. Thought I'd share:

Dear Mr. Kerry,
I teach high school and I was hoping to give a
different perspective re: the 2004 election fraud. I
love what I do. My students are indeed the future of
this country and it concerns me when they express
cynical and jaded views regarding the direction of our
political system. These young adults see things
fairly black and white because they have not had the
life experiences that often taint our beliefs as we
grow older. Therefore, I find it critically
imperative that these young adults have a moral
compass and role models that embrace honor, integrity
and courage. They are watching us closely right now
and it becomes increasingly difficult to explain that
corruption hasn't infected everything throughout this
country. How can we expect them to "do the right
thing" for their generation if we are unwilling to
model ethical behavior from our own? Mr. Kerry- you
have a unique opportunity to LEAD these young adults
by your EXAMPLE! I realize this task will not be an
easy one. You have displayed courage and leadership
throughout your lifetime by drawing strength from your
convictions...we need you now more than ever before!
Please trust that the 60 million people who share in
your values will be behind you in this fight. There
is so much at stake. The future of our country
depends on it! Your leadership and passion for
integrity will ignite a flame of promise for these
young adults...good CAN triumph over evil! I hope you
will continue to challenge the authenticity of the 2004
election regardless of the outcome. Fighting for the
integrity of our democracy can only be a winning
proposition! Thank you.

This sums it up for me! PEACE!!! Happy New Year!


WHAT ARE THEY HIDING???

:think:

[marions ghost]

50. pardon our optimism ladyhawk...

...consider that some people need a climate of cautious optimism to stay focused. You seem to be one who can take action even in a state of pessimism, which you may well see as being "realistic." Your fears are justified, but reality is highly subjective.

No need to let a little optimism offend. It's a rollercoaster right now for everyone. Fostering a climate of positive support and visualizing success --isn't the same thing as being deluded by false hopes, which implies that you do not allow for the possibility of setbacks. Jan 6 is an opportunity to see where we stand, not a "game over" date.

Considering where this was just a short while ago, there is a lot of cause for optimism and hope. Look at your ideas for action above --I take hope from that--that many of us together can make a difference. Visualizing better things is a form of prayer. It often leads to action. Maybe you can accept this, even if it is not exactly YOUR way.

Don't fret that our leaders do not hear us (yet), we have already been strengthened by acknowledging the Truth. We have won some practical victories. We are united in choosing the high road. New leaders will emerge to meet our needs on various fronts.

Suggest to give yourself and this group the gift of Time. On Nov 2-3 we got toughened up if we weren't before. Those that are still here are the really tough, hardly fragile Pollyannas. We are going to rise from the ashes of this abusive system that elevates and rewards the greedy and corrupt. The changes to come will be revolutionary. You'll see. Put your worries into work.

[Pam-Moby]

53. Ladyhawk ... I hope you feel better soon

You maybe correct about the events that may or may not be taking place on Jan 6th. One thing rest assured we are well aware of the odds. One thing to keep in mind. All of this did not happen overnight and it will not be fixed any faster. I was more upset on Nov 2 as I seen Kerry's numbers drop. That was my worst night in ages, but in saying that it will make me fight even harder than ever. I will never give up my dreams now or later. I will not stop until my dreams for this country is fulfilled. This will make us stronger for the long haul.
Love you and keep plugging away!!!!