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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:47 AM
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"Kerry Speaks...developing" What is Drudge talking about here?
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 10:15 AM by truthpusher
on edit: my apologies for bringing Drudge up...but somebodies got to stay on top of this guy?

http://www.drudgereport.com

Screen capture:



see top of page...was noted at 7:45 Denver Time.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:48 AM
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1. Please post more
I hate give his site the hits.

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:52 AM
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Seems this story is "developing" as is this one
HOUSE DIVIDED: CONGRESS 'MOST POLARIZED IN CENTURY'
Sun Jan 02 2005 08:44:19 ET

Congress hasn’t been this polarized in almost a century, TIME magazinr claims in fresh editions.

In the Senate, majority leader Bill Frist is seeking a ruling from presiding officer Dick Cheney that filibusters against judicial nominees are unconstitutional.

In the House, speaker Dennis Hastert and minority leader Nancy Pelosi have not had a private meal together since she took over the top Democratic job two years ago. “Each thinks the other is a rabid partisan, so they confer only when they must,” Waller reports.

Developing...
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:52 AM
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All it says is
"KERRY SPEAKS: WHAT WENT WRONG... DEVELOPING... "

The top banner is a survey "do you think Kerry won the Presidency" with yes/no options. It says answer and win an Apple iPod. Can I really win a ipod????
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:52 AM
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6. No you can't win - me-me-me
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:21 AM
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14. ?????
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 10:22 AM by merh
:shrug:
Should we try?
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:45 AM
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59. Nah - it's probably fixed like everything else
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:52 AM
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3. Don't think there is anything more, yet.
That's all that it says, so I guess the story is developing...
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RetakeAmerica Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:23 AM
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45. We are coming for you, Drudge.
Look, folks, I think we all know what's going on here. Drudge is fucking with our heads.


But that doesn't matter.


Matt Drudge may be laughing now, but what he doesn't know is that WE ARE GONNA OWN HIS ASS RIGHT ALONG WITH THE ASSES OF EVERY SLACK-JAWED JOHN DEERE-DRIVING CHIPMUNK-EATING REPUBLICAN VOTER IN OUR COUNTRY.


I personally cannot wait for THE JOHN F. KERRY PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATION OF JANUARY 20, 2005. I am gonna have a buncha people over to the apartment, order a dozen pizzas, and pop open the bubbly. We are gonna watch Chimpboy, Junior's jaw slack in uncomprehending horror as the ELECTED PRESIDENT, JOHN F. KERRY, takes the oath of office from that cancerous pusbag William Rehnquist, and then, as his first act as president, FIRES the bastard.


2005 is going to be OUR year. Let's just stick together and remember that the truth will ALWAYS out. All we have to do is shout it from the rooftops. WE ARE AMERICA.

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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:33 AM
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54. HOLD YOUR GROUND!
Hold your ground sons and daughters of democracy. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. The day may come when courage fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bands of fellowship—BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY! An hour of blackboxes and partisan courts, when the Age of Democracy comes crashing down—BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY! THIS DAY WE FIGHT! By all that you hold dear in this good earth, I bid you stand, people of the West! Draw your pens and ride!
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #45
55. Love your spirit
EEEEEaaaaaaahh- Howard Dean:bounce:
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RetakeAmerica Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:42 AM
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58. Dean was right!
It will happen. Did you read that great book, "The Coming Democratic Majority"? People, I guarantee you that we are on the threshold of a GENERATION of Democrat rule. And we're not gonna have to wait until '08 -- it starts THIS month.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:54 AM
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61. Haven't read the book
But I have heard the story of what is supposed to happen and then all I see is Republicans as far as the eye can see. Our country is almost totally overtaken by the BFEE and I get the feeling that it is time for someone to make a stand.
Once the Neocons dirty crap is all outed, no doubt republicans will be shunned for a long time.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:53 PM
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70. Drudge is jealous...Truth Out, Daily Kos, DU...amongst others...
...are getting their hands on some real news. Drudge has to big an ego to link anything from the real cutting edge news sources. He is obviously trying to get in the game and all he can come up with is this bullshit.
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:51 AM
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2. KERRY SPEAKS: WHAT WENT WRONG... DEVELOPING...
That's what it says now.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:52 AM
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4. What?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:52 AM
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5. Refuse to touch this dickhead - do a cut & paste or forget it!
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 09:53 AM by 0007
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:08 AM
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9. Screen Capture...
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burned Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:57 AM
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7. *
theres a roach running around in there!
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. I hope Kerry
does not say anything damning to Conyers' efforts
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:08 AM
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10. They're trying to BURY HIM QUICK before the 6th
or, rather, make him bury himself. Hope he didn't make any more Grand Canyon remarks.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #10
30. yes, it is obviously an offensive move in preparation for 1/6
There will no doubt me more such efforts.

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vas430 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #10
46. article is out in Newsweek
tomorrow. Doesn't look like he'll be fighing anything.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #46
73. This is from an interview of Kerry's on 11/11. So much has happened
between now and then. It is obviously a big crunch by the powers that be to quiet any effort to stand up for the vote.

Surprise, surprise. That's why our efforts now matter more than ever!

See the discussion about it, along with more text of Drudge:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1464410
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:12 AM
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11. "Stealthy Team Kerry" laying the groundwork for the final assault on D-Day
The end-game is coming into sight, and we're gonna start to see things heat up.

"Stealthy Team Kerry" has a plan to fight against ALL THE ODDS and its coming together nicely it seems.

That's my belief and I'm sticking to it!

All the best,
FMH
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. I wish I cd believe you
but Drudge wd not publish anything unless it was good for them
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. Drudge will bite on any chum in the water.
This is chum.

Step by step let's watch ALL the * weapons fail against the
"Stealthy Team Kerry" plan.

BELIEVE!

{B^)
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. ok, but why the hell
does K need to speak to them?
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:34 AM
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19. Kerry has been ultra careful with every single word since Nov2...
Did anyone check out that weird video on helping children that represents one of the handful of statements he's made since the "Kerry Concession Event"?

"Regardless of the outcome of the election"

Every word will be just as carefully measured to work towards the D-Day "landing" on Jan6.

Think about it, why WOULD he say anything now, just 4 days before the biggest event that WE all know about, but AMERICA is still in the dark on?

I think the "Patrol Boat Fast" is turning around into the enemy, and the engines are revving up!

{B^)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #19
40. think about it.where is kusinich..where are all....
where are all the outspoken dems?? where is clark..where is kusinich..not one to keep quiet long..he has been silent...or almost silent..dean has been quiet , sharpton has been silent...and thats a big silent if you ask me!!lol..the silence is defeafening...its too quiet by people not know for silence...edwards has been almost silent , but when he has spoken it sure didnt sound like defeat...teresa has been silent...
but last night i was thinking..about Kusinich...ohio is his state and yet..nothing from him..or almost nothing from him...this is too strange..and it tells me more than if he was out there speaking....something big is up is how i see it...i can feel it almost...
please jfk be careful in iraq...i wish he was going skiing instead!!
fly
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:15 PM
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63. I agree with you. The silence is telling.
Stelth is the method of opperation. Silently we gather up the evidence and prepare to hurl it into the teeth of the theifs.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #40
64. yes---Where IS Kusinich????????
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #40
75. Clark has been to the Middle East
Trying to help clean up Shrub's OTHER mess.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #13
18. wolf wolf
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:37 AM
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20. That's right -- just like JAWS biting into that stupid scuba tank,
DRUDGE HAS NO CHOICE but to bite!!!!

What's gonna be in kerry's tank?

Hearing Drudge spin up his spin-machine has given me goosebumps of anticipation!!!!!

I BELIEVE HOPE IS ON THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! (yes that's a lot of bangs!)

All the best in the new year,
{B^)
FMH

p.s. I loves ur name! :)
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RetakeAmerica Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #20
53. Drudge has a direct fax line to the Chimpinator
And they;re both scared, because they can see all too well that John Kerry's game of legal chess is quickly heading them into a checkmate.

Expect this to get uglier before it gets prettier.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #20
62. I hope your right sweetheart!
First A OK I've ever got on my name, makes me happy you like it!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:44 AM
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23. Nah.....I think it's Drudge teasing his "liberal" viewers by getting ready
to post an old article where Kerry says "Democrats need to be more inclusive to win elections."

Nothing to see there except that roach running around...which is fitting for Drudge's site. Roaches....
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #11
26. A hearty second
--I think everything is falling nicely into place--
the good guys are doing their job, God Bless 'Um
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:08 AM
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38. I truly believe this is a calculated, Kerry move...
It appears that Kerry and Co do know what they are doing.

A month ago, Kerry understood what would go down on 1/6. He recognized that it was best if he wasn't there. If he was present, the focus would shift away from election fraud, Republican crimes and free elections--to Kerry.

Kerry understands that the focus must be on Conyers and others who are fighting for democracy and free elections. If Kerry was there, this would significantly muddy the true, central issues: Republicans cheated; We have an illegitimate president clearing brush on a ranch; Massive election fraud happened.

With Kerry gone--that frames this issue with two sides: 1.)Conyers and Co (the good guys fighting for truth, free elections and democracy), 2.) BushCo (the evil election stealers who committed election fraud).

Brilliant! The Dems finally understand what Rove has known all along: To win the debate, you must put the other side on the defensive and force them to defend their actions--as you define yourself as on the RIGHT side of the issue.

Can you imagine Bush's remarks on his own election being rejected by the House and Senate? I just drooled on my keyboard!

As these issues heat up and Kerry's whereabouts are questioned, we cut to scenes of Kerry looking presidential, concerned, diplomatic and revered by the soldiers in Iraq. Never mind that Bush has barely stepped inside Iraq.

Brilliant. Frickin Brilliant!

I'm sure the Drudge story is a calculated move by Kerry. We'll get a few strategic lines that make Kerry's beliefs known.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #38
57. I'd love to see Kerry go out in the streets of Bagdad
and speak to the Iraqi people directly. Of course, with heavy security precautions to make sure the area was safe. But the images would be priceless.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:22 AM
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16. He should be on his way to Iraq and the Middle East soon.
I thought he was going in early January.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #16
17. Perhaps that is what he will be speaking about? n/t
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:40 AM
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21. It's up now
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm

" KERRY SPEAKS: WHAT WENT WRONG
Sun Jan 02 2005 10:35:31 ET

New York-In an exclusive interview about his presidential campaign and his life now, Sen. John Kerry tells Newsweek, "I'm not going to lick my wounds or hide under a rock or disappear. I'm going to learn. I've had disappointments and I've learned to cope. I've lost friends, a marriage: I've lost things in life."

Kerry has not given any formal interviews since his defeat. But on Nov. 11, he summoned a Newsweek reporter to his house on Boston's fashionable Louisberg Square. He wanted to complain about Newsweek's election issue, which he says was unduly harsh and gossipy about him, his staff and his wife. (The 45,000-word article, the product of a yearlong reporting project, is being published next week as a book, "Election 2004," by PublicAffairs.) Details from that interview appear in the January 10 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, January 3). Kerry talks with Newsweek about the campaign, why he lost and what's ahead for him. He did not wish to be directly quoted touting himself, however; he did not wish to appear defensive or boastful.

When asked why he lost the election, Kerry points to history and, in a somewhat inferential, roundabout way, to his own failure to connect to voters-a failure that kept him from erasing the Bush campaign's portrait of him as a flip-flopper, reports Newsweek Assistant Managing Editor Evan Thomas. Kerry said that he was proud of his campaign, that he had nearly defeated a popular incumbent who had enjoyed a three-year head start on organizing and fund-raising. Sitting presidents are never defeated in wartime, he insisted (true, though two, LBJ and Harry Truman, chose not to run for another term during Vietnam and Korea).

While he quarreled with descriptions of his speaking style as "soporific," Kerry tacitly acknowledged that he failed to connect with enough voters on a personal level. Jose Ferreira, Kerry's nephew, told his uncle, "Some people are saying that your candidacy was driven by ABB ." Kerry replied: "Do you think so?" Ferreira said that once people got to know Kerry, they were intensely loyal. "Those are the people I let down," Kerry said, falling silent. In conversation with

Newsweek, Kerry seemed particularly interested in trying to find a way to speak to ordinary voters that didn't sound too grandiose or "political." Though Kerry did not directly criticize his friend Bob Shrum, it's clear he did not feel well served by his message makers and speechwriters.

The deeper problem may be Kerry's personality, which may be too distant or reserved to win mass affection. As Thomas left Kerry's house in November, Kerry called out and followed him down the street. Kerry wanted to show a letter from a schoolgirl that had been left on his stoop. The letter read, in part, "John Kerry, you're the greatest!" Kerry looked into the reporter's eye. "The pundits have never liked me," he said. "Is it the way I look? The way I sound?" He seemed vulnerable for a moment, then caught himself, smiled and walked home to his empty house.

In the heady days before the election, Kerry's top aides sat around picking a cabinet. Nowadays the foreign-policy team still meets on the assumption that it could be reconstituted for '08. But the reality is, "it's mostly sitting around some lawyer's office and asking each other if we've heard about jobs," says a member of the team. As for Kerry, says this adviser, "he thinks he's the frontrunner for '08 without recognizing that he needs to do some soul-searching. If he wants to come back, he'll have to come back as a different candidate, not the stiff who plays it safe and takes four sides of every issue."

Developing..."
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #21
24. Interesting that they would choose to post this now...
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burned Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #21
25. non news
nothing but fluff and filler. and its old, nov. 11th.
nothing is said that means anything, but i'll be interested to see what gets made of it in the press.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:48 AM
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27. So....I was correct? Drudge is rehasing a November 11th interview with
Newsweek? That's his big news to tease his liberal viewers?

Hmpft!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:21 AM
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43. meet the press this morn
waas full of cons and they rehashed what kerry did wrong..i had to turn it off..i can stomach tim russert any longer..but i thought right away..they are trying to show kerry as a loser right now..and this is pre-emptive of jan 6th..paint bush the winner, kerry the loser...yes i believe we will see a week full of rove tactics to show bush the "great leader" and kerry the loser...this will be shoved down the american throat this next few days...its the rove tactic..deflect , deflect, deflect...and pre-empt the real story!

they know..rove knows...the shoe is about to fall!!
fly
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #43
66. I'm so sick of the one sided point of view they give. Here is a post on
Daily Kos talking about this and giving numbers to call and complain.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/2/105346/1903

"Today's panel on Meet the Press is once again heavily biased in favor of Republicans:

Meet the Press--Colin Powell, David Broder, Kate O'Beirne, William Safire, & Evan Thomas.
That's two Republican partisans and two ostensibly neutral card carrying members of the SCLM. This lack of balance is not new for Meet the Press, but rather is something they do with disturbing regularity.

We should not take this lying down.

Here is what we should do, right now:

1. Call NBC in Washington -- 202-885-4200 or 202-885-4111

2. Ask to speak to one of the producers of Meet the Press, whose names are as follows:

Betsy Fischer is Executive Producer
Michelle Jaconi and Erin Fogarty Owen are Producers
Chris Donovan, Ted Kresse and Courtney Kube are Associate Producers
Leave them a voicemail saying you disapprove of their decision to have an "unfair" and "unbalanced" panel on meet the press. You're not limited to doing this today. Feel free to do this all week.

This is one castle that deserves to be stormed."

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #21
28. "not going to hide under a rock" he says
well, maybe he's hiding under his bed, because he has been MIA as far as I could tell...

Oh, I guess he'll come out when it can't make any possible difference to his political career...or something.

what a disappointment.
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #28
33. Have more faith ... a prosecutor KNOWS WHEN to say nothing and
when to drop the bomb...

{B^)
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Not a Sheep Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #33
36. So when is Kerry going to "drop the bomb"? /eom
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #28
34. Maybe he's hiding IN Iraq...
LOL!

Just a joke. Sorry.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #21
31. This is crap.
Drudge is framing this entire thing with only a single direct quote and a lot of elaboration. Add a few blind quotes, and you've got a post-election mea-culpa.

I'll wait until the actual story comes out to make up my mind on Newsweek, but as far as Drudge is concerned, I declare bullshit.
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vas430 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #21
47. there's much more
to come.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #21
65. Those bastards at Newsweek
They're trying to make Kerry look like a whiny sore-loser before 1/6/05. Note, this was not a formal interview. He called them to his house to complain about their coverage of him, his family, and his campaign. So I doubt they had his approval to print this.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #21
67. This is just plain wrong:
"The deeper problem may be Kerry's personality, which may be too distant or reserved to win mass affection."

IMHO, there was an outpouring of "affection" for Kerry that hasn't been seen since the original JFK. That, of course, makes the "loss" more questionable.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:46 PM
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81. This was Nov. 11...
...the Freeman report wasn't even published yet. One of the things it revealed (besides Exit Polls showing a Kerry win, with impossible odds against Bush win) is that the networks ALTERED the Exit Polls late on election day, "adjusting" them with the Republican controlled electronic central vote tabulator (secret, proprietary source code) "results," fed in by AP, which made it APPEAR that Bush was winning both the Exit Polls and the "official results." Americans were thus denied the information that the Exit Polls said Kerry won.

In the Ukraine, they had the two separate figures to compare, Exit Polls vs. "official results," and thus could plainly see that something was very wrong.

Freeman report based on screen shots taken of the pure Exit Poll data before it was altered. (This was the first report. It has been followed by a mountain of evidence of across the board election fraud, both electronic and vote suppression, of which Kerry is now surely aware.)

Also, if the Rattlesnake strategy is in fact true (of Kerry), and if it is as well-planned as some think it is, then Kerry would hardly be tipping his hand to Newsweek on Nov. 11, before all the evidence had been gathered. Indeed, his interview with Newsweek--an enemy publication--might well have been part of the plan (lie low, strike at the optimum moment).

What do I think right now? To all appearances, Kerry and the Democrats are acquiescing to a second stole election, loss of our right to vote, and the end of our democracy--with a few exceptions who are upset by black voter suppression and egregious violations of the Voting Rights Act of 1965--given all the struggle and sorrow that went into passing it--and who are going to at least articulate this in Congress on Jan. 6, whatever the outcome of the challenge.

Upshot: It is impossible to discern if this screaming silence of the Democrats is part of a Rattlesnake strategy, or just confusion and despair (and protecting little fiefdoms against the coming fascist siege.) Really, it's impossible to tell. Confusion, despair and fiefdomism may be cover.

One guess: Kerry may be into a long term strategy, a la Watergate, of eventual exposure. But why he would think this could work, given BushCon news media today, I don't know. And how can Congress be transformed in '06, and how can he be elected in '08--if those are his purposes--with BushCons OWNING THE VOTING SYSTEM, lock, stock and secret source code?

Dream: They will ALL stand up. They will ALL challenge this election. They will defend of our right to vote. They will pay tribute to Martin Luther King. They will show strength in numbers. They will mount a common defense of the principles of democracy, and of our once great, progressive society, so inspiring to oppressed people everywhere.

And the whole world will shout with joy!


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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:41 AM
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22. Gonna be on pins and needles now.......
But, why drudge first??:9
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:51 AM
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29. Drudge is reporting Newsweeks article
Kerry did not talk to Drudge.
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RetakeAmerica Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:29 AM
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50. Dredge Drudge
Drudge is chasing at shadows, like he usaully does. It's only every once in a blue moon that his Screaming Headlines have any truth behind them at all. He's like a monkey flinging its own crap at a dartboard across the room; sooner or later its bound to hit the bullseye.

Kerry knows better than to talk to him of all people. Eyes on the prize.
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:52 AM
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32. Pure genius!!!
The shit hits the fan on January 6th--
where's Kerry?
In Iraq--clearly "out of the Loop"
Meanwhile Kofi Annan is knuckleballing Dick Cheney in Jackson Hole

And nobody suspects a thing
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:59 AM
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35. He Connected Plenty!
Newsweek has been set up! They deserve nothing less!

That interview will hit the streets just as the tidal wave of grass roots support for Kerry stemming from the Congressional challenge and Civil Rights suits hits the fan.

Early January's gonna be something else!

Kick for Kerry!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:02 AM
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37. This is Based on an OLD Article...pure Crap...why did you post this?
And folks here...going on about it as if it's news? Trying to create some anticipation over nothing....
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:14 AM
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41. Article in January 10 issue of Newsweek, online probably today.
Kerry has not given any formal interviews since his defeat. But on Nov. 11, he summoned a Newsweek reporter to his house on Boston's fashionable Louisberg Square. He wanted to complain about Newsweek's election issue, which he says was unduly harsh and gossipy about him, his staff and his wife. (The 45,000-word article, the product of a yearlong reporting project, is being published next week as a book, "Election 2004," by PublicAffairs.) Details from that interview appear in the January 10 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, January 3). Kerry talks with Newsweek about the campaign, why he lost and what's ahead for him. He did not wish to be directly quoted touting himself, however; he did not wish to appear defensive or boastful.
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:15 AM
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42. It's not very interesting but....
it's not an old article. Yes, the interview was some time back, but it hasn't been published yet.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:45 PM
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68. At the time it was not linked to the Newsweek story...
...I agree this is crap - I was hoping that something would be said that had some relevance. I was surprised to see Kerry's name as a 'Developing' story...I check on Drudge daily and have not seen any reference to Kerry like this since the election.
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vas430 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:12 AM
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39. I heard from
my sister who's a investigative journalist at the LA Times that Kerry will discuss the election, what he thinks went wrong, and how the irregularities and charges of fraud will be investigated but that they don't rise to the level of criminality. He'll thank supporters and talk about how Bush's inauguration is a chance to heal and unite the country. Now, My sister also says that she thinks that Kerry really wants to fight and chalenge the election but his advisors think it's not a good idea if he wants to run in 2008. Does that really make sense?? Anyway, she said she'd let me know asap if it's something different.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:22 AM
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44. Please let us know when he gives the LA times a statement
until then, the drudge/newsweek crap is just that CRAP!
"But on Nov. 11, he summoned a Newsweek reporter to his house on Boston's fashionable Louisberg Square." Old news - just like our media, store crap until you want to bring it out to muddy the water - smoke & mirrors. Scott Peterson is guilty!

BTW - did sis talk to Kerry personally, or is this just what she heard from a reliable source?
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vas430 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:31 AM
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52. She didn't
talk to him personally. She would have died on the spot. She did speak to him twice during the campaign season and still hasn't stopped talking about it. She thinks he's hot. She speaks with Joe Lockhart and his wife Lara alot. I don't know if that's considered reliable or not?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:26 AM
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48. If Kerry says Bush's Inauguration is a chance to heal and unite the
country...then he is truly out of touch even with his own party which is split with Progressives making a push which is going to cause alot of fracture in the Dem Party. It's going on in my "Red State."

If Kerry thinks he will get a second chance...he truly is a dreamer. Gore should have run again...it couldn't have been worse than this dismal performance by Kerry always pushing healing which just allows the Do Nothing wing of the Dem Party to perpetuate stagnation and losses time and time again...
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:47 PM
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69. Agreed...If he is playing that angle it would be unforgivable in my...
...eyes.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:31 AM
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51. Then why did he put out that video citing the EXTREME RW POLICIES of *
and that we had to continue to fight? Sure doesn't sound like someone who thinks we need to heal???
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:48 AM
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60. Kerry's advisers think it's not a good idea for 2008?
Listen up Kerry advisers, if any of you troll around here, stand and fight right now or completely forget about 2008. The people of this country have endured four horrific years of oppression, and we cannot endure another four years with an alleged "mandate."

To the advisers who would rather cower in the corner like whimpering piss-ants, due your country a great service and get away from Kerry. These advisers are the very reason this country has been raped and pillaged for the last three elections.

Kerry's chances in 2008 would be a hell of a lot better if he were an incumbent, rather than the guy who refused to fight the corruption and fraud.
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Eye_on_prize Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:25 PM
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72. Ditto - to Kerry's "go along, get along" advisers. with adviser's like...
these, who needs KRove? WTF can these people be thinking? And frankly, Kerry must ultimately take responsibility for his own decisions -- after all, he's the one paying these idiots to mis-advise him. sad, and not too smart on K's part, if he listens to this crap. It's now or never Mr. Kerry. Turn that boat around...remember? You "reported for duty" so you can't back out us now when the bullets are flying. Go Stealth Team Kerry!!! or kiss off 2008.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:29 AM
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49. From what was posted
It doesn't appear that Kerry "sold the farm".
I hope Kerry and the others tear the neocons to shreds on the 6th and forevermore.
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RetakeAmerica Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 11:37 AM
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56. I love this guy!
New York-In an exclusive interview about his presidential campaign and his life now, Sen. John Kerry tells Newsweek, "I'm not going to lick my wounds or hide under a rock or disappear. I'm going to learn. I've had disappointments and I've learned to cope. I've lost friends, a marriage: I've lost things in life."

George Wanker Bush, for whom everything in life was handed right to him by Daddy and Halliburton, has never lost a damn thing in his life.

But he's about to. One thing I love about Kerry is his sly, subtle humor: You bet your ass he's not going to lick his wounds and disappear. It's hard to disappear when you're sitting behind the Oval Office desk.

George B*** is gonna disappear into the hayseed anonyimyty of Crawford so frickin' fast he's gonna think he was in a time warp. That entire little BURG should disappear. In fact, the entire state of Texas should disappear.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:54 PM
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71. omg they are trying SO hard
this shit is almost two months old, and they are calling it 'breaking news', 'developing' news? i can't believe this shit....i think i'm going to have to :puke:
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:31 PM
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74. This is going to be 'outtakes' from the Newsweek article, whose interview
with Kerry was conducted Nov. 11th from what I understand. This is just another 'clever' MSM story to discredit and malign Kerry's efforts now. It means that somebody is getting a little uptight though, enough to want them to print this story when it is no longer truly relevant to make Kerry look like a loser, just when news might be coming out this week that he is NOT in fact, a loser. This is a smear. I just wish Kerry had not granted the interview so that they could twist his words yet again.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:35 PM
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76. When did Kerry make the video that he sent to his supporters...
...regarding health care coverage for every American child? The statements made in that video directly contradict the drivel in this article, especially the "unity" part.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:40 PM
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77. dont' remember the exact date
but it was mid to late November.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:41 PM
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78. HOW CAN I CONTACT DRUDGE
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 03:41 PM by Faye
I CAN'T FIND AN EMAIL ADDRESS, NEED ONE ASAP. MY PMS IS CALLING HIS NAME.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:49 PM
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79. i foudn it
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 03:52 PM by Faye
i just emailed that asshole.



@&%#^&@%$^@%#%@%#@^%#%@^#%^@#^@%^#%#&
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 04:25 PM
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80. Drudge is such a right wing sleazeball!
You notice he has the topic:

HOUSE DIVIDED: CONGRESS 'MOST POLARIZED IN CENTURY'...

but he has a pic of Nancy Pelosi above it. As if she is the majority speaker of the house! Rat bastard!!:mad:
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