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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:15 PM
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Kerry won't be there on January 6th
I have been away, so sorry if everyone knows this except me. I don't know if it is good, or bad, or moot. But it doesn't look like Kerry will be there on January 6th...


http://kerryblog.blogspot.com/2004/12/alert-electile-dysfunction.html


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In any case, Kerry wasn't home to take notice of yesterday's demonstrators. A woman answered the door and promised to deliver a message when he returns from vacation at the end of January. Kerry has been in Ketchum, Idaho, for several weeks, and he plans to go to the Middle East for the first two weeks of January.

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:16 PM
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1. Somethings brewing
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:17 PM
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2. Good, You just made my day!
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:21 PM
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4. Jeeze, will you guys give it up, already?
The guy conceded, he quit, and he ain't coming back.

We have an election that is under a cloud and the guy who should be leading the charge is doing the same thing establishment pols always do.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:24 PM
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6. no we will not give it up thanks
:hi:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:25 PM
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7. Mike, Give us eternal optimists a break! My Optimist Calendar
Date to give up on Kerry being next president: Jan 20th
Date to give up on B* Fraud being exposed: Never
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:26 AM
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30. thats about right
i just wish i never had to give up the hope of getting that chimp out and getting Kerry in.

i know we will impeach the chimp. i am not worried about that. but he will only be replaced by a party operative and i am not sure thats a success. that could have been part of the plan.

chimp is just the front man the people like. rove is the brain and cheney is certifiable crazy and gives the orders and really runs things. its a complicated machine. ugh.

it take 3 of them to make one damn candidate. but once the election is over they dont need that front man (the ugh pretty face) anymore.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:46 PM
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16. Why don't you join us - it may put a smile on your face
and hope in your heart.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:58 AM
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28. And who knows...since JK likes the element of surprise...he may just
surprise us all, and re-arrange his itinerary for Jan. 6.

Now THAT's hope! I believe...
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bones_7672 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:19 AM
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29. "I DO believe in fairies, I DO, I DO!" n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:11 PM
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19. Oh, do all establishment pols always go to Iraq?
And it is only the opinion of some that he should be leading this charge. It is the opinion of others that it needed to be anyone BUT him.

Even so, my support of him doesn't hinge on Jan. 6th. It will take an f'ing miracle. I'll pray for that f'ing miracle, but I'm not pinning my soul on it.

Please understand that what you're asking of Kerry is near insanity. It would be a radical act from a man who has NEVER, ever been a radical, even at his most anti-war.

Without overwhelming evidence and support, it would tear the nation apart worse than the election itself has done. Caring about the country, he wouldn't do that. But if he understands that he really did win, he will never forget the theft. He will never forget that these people wouldn't let him help the country out of this mess. He will never forget all who will die as this administration mucks things up further.

It wasn't that he wanted to do things all that differently. He just wanted things done right, with the least loss of life possible. They will not be done right by this administration. Even when they're right about a plan, such as No Child Left Behind, they don't know how to make that good plan actually work. It is their ineptitude more than anything I fear. Even ol' Nixon wasn't as bloody stupid as these people.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, can you recognize and support when a pol you don't like has a good idea? I hope so. I hope I don't see too many "I don't like the guy, so I won't help get little kids health care, because it might make the guy look good."

Or is that how politics normally works? Shit upon a good idea if your guy didn't have it. I hope those who do not have an interest in how "politics works normally" can support a good idea. Not just from Kerry, but even from the occasional moderate Republican. We may have to forming some alliances here that we never thought we'd be forming. I'm convinced there are also several unhappy Republicans out there. They, as in Nixon's time, will be key to bringing these people down. It wasn't the scandal that killed Nixon you see. It was his own party eating their own. That's why Clinton survived. Our party stood by him.

Bush's party will not. Not all of them, anyway. It's already starting.


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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:23 PM
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21. ummm..... I don't believe you.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:20 PM
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3. he announced that he was going to the MidEast in November
i think it's great he's gonna be outa Dodge when the chit hits in Congress.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:32 AM
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26. Yes he did announce it in mid November
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:24 PM
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5. When the crowd is prepared...
...to bear him away on their shoulders as the winner of election 2004, that will his cue to enter stage left.

:party: :party: :party:
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:26 PM
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8. I know. His chicken feathers are showing. I wish we'd run someone else
And I was always defending him during the primaries.
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:30 PM
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9. You didn't get the memo
It's a GOOD thing that he's left the country. It's a sign of his deep involvement.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:33 PM
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10. LOL - We are grasping for straws, huh
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:24 PM
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22. It's neither a sign of his involvement nor of his unconcern
It's a sign that he's not hanging his hat on Jan. 6th perhaps. I believe he's proceeding with his job, part of which includes factfinding in Iraq and letting Jan. 6th take care of itself.

No, I don't think he believes he'll be president after all of this. But yes, I think he knows now he was robbed. Amazing that what we can believe readily in the Ukraine is beyond comprehension here. Esp. if the media is not finally on our side. Somehow I doubt it is. Their record is not good on such matters.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:19 PM
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20. I'm glad you did that during the primaries
What changed for you that was so violent to your psyche that I see your name quite often as one of those who beats their tits in anguish almost on a daily basis.

God bless him, I hope you don't think your avatar was going to win in his stead. Even your avatar didn't think that, I'm told. He just wanted to make sure certain issues were included.

It's just that there are other explanations besides chicken feathers. And I don't think it takes a chicken to go to Iraq. Sounds quite dangerous to me.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:15 PM
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25. Who did you have in mind - and how would they be
reacting differently - and how could you calculate and/or determine their behavior under the same circumstances?
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:34 PM
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11. Hope he has good security
provided by a deeply trustworthy collection of bodyguards
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jjtss Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:37 PM
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12. Kerry's Absence at the US Inauguration
I think his message is clear!! Therefore I won't be there either. I'm not turning on my TV or going near Walmart's ( they always have their TVs tuned to the federal propaganda channels) I do hope that that one group is there and turns their collective backs on G.Brish. the rest of us should black out our reception and wear mourning black all day.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:39 PM
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13. I will be there.
I am not fighting for Kerry. I am fighting for our republic.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:39 PM
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14. no
he will absent for Jan. 6th. :hi:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:25 PM
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23. Has it been said he would be out of town until after Jan 20th?
I hadn't heard how long he was going to be in the Middle East.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:12 PM
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24. Will be out of the country for the first two weeks of January
according to that Kerry Blogspot....or whatever it is...
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:40 PM
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15. JKs got different chickens to fry n/t
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:57 PM
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17. Here are my thoughts on this situation
Kerry does not want to appear as the sore loser, he is doing the same as Gore did in 2000 except that Kerry can walk away but Gore couldn't. I just can't remember what program I was listening to radio the other day there is little written documentation available to contest the election and written documentation is important. Written documentation is not there, thought this was what Bev was doing, guess not.

Kerry like Gore is not going to protest the vote, the RW has flexed their muscle. I think the RW has found the vulnerbility in our own party that our party won't do anything.

We need to find the vulnerbility in the RW to gain in the Congress and Senate which should not be difficult. The two faces of the RW should be the answer. Also the Dem congress and senators need to stand up and fight and follow the beliefs of their followers, this they are not doing. They sit in fear. They need to shed the fear and go forward. They just won't do this, afraid of their constituents.

The Dems continually talk about the "moderate dems" as of today I do not know of any "moderate democrats". What is a moderate Dem? Lieberman and who else except in DC?

Am I making sense? I am not the world's greatest communicator, so help me out here.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:07 PM
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18. Catch 22 -- Can't walk away without exposing the fraud in hopes
of running in 2008 because if he doesnt expose them he can't win in 2008 - they will pull the same shit again.

I agree on your premise about splitting the RW. But it all goes back to not having a vehicle (media) to influence anyone, left or right. That should be the first goal -- liberal owned cable network
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:50 AM
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27. Being there would be a no-win
I am not sure whether this was planned or not, but it's definitely working out this way. The 6th is a hot potato that he can derive no benefit from handling.

Kerry could gain nothing from challenging. Regardless of the significance of Conyers' findings, it would look self-serving for him to do it. Even if other Senators stood up as well.

However, the other choice is not any good either. If a Senator did stand up, and Kerry were there but he didn't stand up himself, then his silence would be used against the challenge. Same if no Senators stood up at all.

But if later investigations DID prove fraud, gee, he's just destroyed his 2008 chances. And there will be later investigations. I don't believe that Conyers and his colleagues are dropping this.

It would be a no-win situation for Kerry to be present.

All that said, I hope he stays safe.
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