Can someone explain January 6th to me?

[Postmanx]

I keep hearing about January 6th but I do not understand the significance.

[IndyPriest]

1. Are you serious? If so, I'll give it a shot.

[molly]

12. LMAO!!!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. The Epiphany

the day the wise men visited baby Jesus. Official end of the Christmas season.

[Wilms]

4. And the beggining of the unraveling.... n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. We can only pray

[NMDemDist2]

3. in a nutshell, some of the Congressional Dems plan to NOT certify

the electors from OH

if they get a Senator to sign on, then there will be steps taken

which steps?? I'm a bit fuzzy on that, but it will be a stink and the MSM should have to report it, hopefully causing some investigations into the voting irregularities

I'm sure other, more knowledgeable people will fill in the blanks

edit to add this thread for further reading
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x224438

[EuroObserver]

25. Let them not certify

at least Florida nor New Mexico either.

[Al-CIAda]

5. Full Metal Hats vision of what may happen-

[Postmanx]

8. Just so I am clear,

1. Jan 6th is the day the electoral votes are ment to be certified?

2. In an effort to generate support for a full hand recount in Ohio, some members of congress are going to make a public stand by not certifying the votes.

Is that the case or am I missing something?

[New Earth]

9. you pretty much got it

also add there will be people outside the capitol rallying in support of the contest :hi:

[Doctor O]

15. The most important of the 6th is the certification of the vote.

If there is an challenge the objective would be to certify or not certify Ohio's electoral votes. A hand recount after that day may be a side benefit, but the reults will be too lae to affect the election.

[IndyPriest]

19. As for 1. I wouldn't say "certified." They have already

been "certified" at the state level. The (usual) last step in the election process is that the Congress accepts (or does not accept) the legality or legitimacy of each state's electors.

As for 2. The purpose of a (potential) contest on the 6th is not necessarily to support a full hand recount in OH. There are many reasons why a member of congress may want to support a contest. Exposing election fraud is one of them. Putting the administration on notice that it is being watched is another. Pushing for a reVOTE, not simply a reCOUNT in OH is another. Proving a Kerry victory is another...

[Doctor O]

6. Here is the link to the Electoral vote process, through another post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=220507&mesg_id=224349

[RPM]

7. If there were no January 6th, then we would go from 1/5 to 1/7

Maintaining the integrity of the calendar is huge - of utmost significance.

:evilgrin:

[Terre]

10. You know as well as anyone else here

what the significance of that date is.

Are you trying to bait yet again?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=24674

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. Thanks for the warning

[Terre]

16. Gotta look out for each other

Postmanx drops in from time to time looking to stir the pot.

[Nothing Without Hope]

20. Thanks for the tip.

It's irritating when people post just to "stir the pot," like you say. Next time I see that username I won't bother to try to frame a careful answer, I'll just move on.

[New Earth]

14. it's doomsday for the Freepers

that's what it is :hi:

[Terre]

18. ROFL!!

Gosh I LOVE the sound of that!

[Nothing Without Hope]

17. I recommend working through this thread.

There is discussion and also, especially in the reply "Yes it it is clearly explained here," the actual legal language.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=213256

If you saw Fahrenheit 9/11 you already know more than you think. Remember the sad scene near the beginning when the Congressional Black Caucus Represenatives were standing one by one and protesting the Florida vote in the 2000 election? How they had to sit down because not even one senator would stand with them? Well, that's what this is about. That's why there are so many posts about whether and how many and which senators will stand with Conyers and the other representatives challenging the election results this time. That challenge will happen on Jan 6.

It actually won't take very long, whatever happens. But if senators and representatives stand together, it opens a door. (There are other investigations and the possibilitiy of impeachment, but that's a different story.)

[jmc777]

21. Is this event usually televised? n/t

[IndyPriest]

22. No. Not live. Recorded. But might be live this year! n/t

[shraby]

23. I think C-Span is going to cover it

at least that's what someone on the threads said.

[ConstitutionGuy]

24. Everything You Need To Know

about January 6 is contained in Title 3 of the United States Code. It is the date, mandated by law, that the electoral votes are officially COUNTED, not certified. They have already been "certified" by their respective states. There is no provision in the law for any kind of investigation, soepenas, recounts, revotes, re-anything eminating from this joint session. A representative and a senator can object to the acceptance of any vote (or votes) and then debate the issue (in separate house and senate sessions) where the debate is strictly limited to 2 hours and no one speaker may speak more than once and for no more than 5 minutes. After which each house must vote to either accept or reject the votes. No other action by either house is permitted under this law. If Congress wants to instigate an "investigation" of the election it will have to be done in another forum, probably in the normal business of the respective houses. The president of the senate (in this case VP Cheney) presides over the joint session and is specifically empowered by Title 3, Section 18 to enforce order in the meeting. Therefore he would most likely rule any motion or attempt to "investigate" or delay, other than under the provisions specifically entertained in the statute, as out of order. In fact, the law specifically prohibits him from entertaining any motion except for a motion to dismiss to separate chambers to consider objections, under the time constraints noted above.