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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:26 PM
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"Lead Attorney" for Kerry on Countdown... was it proven true/false?
that his 'no fraud' comment was truly 'speaking for the campaign'?? I need to stuff something down a pair of Freepers' throat...
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beachhous9 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:31 PM
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1. Not sure
what you mean. Keith read a statement and talked about it but there wasn't an attorney on thzat I saw. I have the last 10 days on tape for my husband. He's a FEMA supervisor and travels ALOT!
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:33 PM
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2. My understanding is it was and E-mail form Kerry's lead attorney
in Ohio to KO
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Doctor O Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:36 PM
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3. Hoffmeir is Kerry's Lead Attorney in Ohio. If you look at Keith's blogs,
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 08:47 PM by Doctor O
you will see where Keith quotes Hoffmeier as saying there was no fraud. Of course many people questioned his authority to make the statement, but no good attorney would not release such a statement without clearing it with his client. And Hoffmeir had a long releationship with Kerry.

Here is the excerpt from his blog:

Last Thursday night, his lead attorney on the ground in Ohio, Daniel J. Hoffheimer, issued a statement that constituted the third or fourth eyebrow-raiser from the Kerry camp in the post-election period.

In announcing that the Kerry-Edwards group would join the bid in Federal District Court in Ohio to preserve all "evidence" from the election and recount there, Mr. Hoffheimer said, on behalf of the senators, that such preservation was necessary because, "Only then can the integrity of the entire electoral process and the election of Bush-Cheney warrant the public trust."

This evening, after several Web columnists and bloggers joined me in questioning the bluntness of the phrase (one even wildly claiming this was a precursor to a Kerry "un-concession"), Hoffheimer changed his tone.

"I would caution the media not to read more into what the Kerry-Edwards campaign has said," Mr. Hoffheimer advised us by e-mail, "than what you hear in the plain meaning of our comments. There are many conspiracy theorists opining these days. There are many allegations of fraud. But this presidential election is over. The Bush-Cheney ticket has won. The Kerry-Edwards campaign has found no conspiracy and no fraud in Ohio, though there have been many irregularities that cry out to be fixed for future elections. Senator Kerry and we in Ohio intend to fix them. When all of the problems in Ohio are added together, however bad they are, they do not add up to a victory for Kerry-Edwards. Senator Kerry's fully-informed and extremely careful assessment the day after the election and before he conceded remains accurate today, notwithstanding all the details we have since learned."

And the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:39 PM
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4. Well, that couldn't be more straightforward.
"But this presidential election is over. The Bush-Cheney ticket has won. The Kerry-Edwards campaign has found no conspiracy and no fraud in Ohio,"
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:59 PM
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10. You always neglect to tell the other half of the story.
Are you with the MSM?

What about Kerry's attorney that has filed to join in the litigation in Ohio?
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Doctor O Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:05 PM
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11. And what is the other side, If McTigue and Hoffmeir are working for
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 09:07 PM by Doctor O
Kerry, they have the same boss and neither would do anything not approved by their Kerry. As one of the attorney's on here mentioned, just becuase Hoffmeir's name is not on the suit does not mean he is not fully aware of what is going on. In fact his statement indicated he was aware of the motion and commented on the reasons Kerry was doing it. Sounds like a coordinated effort to me.

This statement is also consistent with what the NC has said, the DLC has said, and Kerry has said.

Now prove to me that Hoffmeir is not Kerry's lead attorney on the ground in Ohio. He is the only one I have heard mentioned as the lead attorney in Ohio. McTigue has never been mentioned as such.

The real problem here is that Kerry has never said anything publicly, simply relied on his minions.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:16 PM
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13. Now you mention McTigue. Its about time.
LOL!

Kerry campaign has ended, election is over. Litigation is on going, still exists. Hmmmm, which one seems to be the active, lead attorney? :shrug:

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:41 PM
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5. Not Kerry's attorney that HAS filed to join in the Glib litigation
asking that the voting equipment be seized and asking that the federal courts intervene.

2 different attorneys. Certain posters that have replied do not understand that one was lead attorney in the campaign (election over, campaign is over) and other is involved in the litigation filed in Ohio federal court that is challenging the actions of Blackwell relative to the accuracy of the count.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:42 PM
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6. Watch what they do...
not what they say. ;)
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:49 PM
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9. VERY good, Wilms! and ; ) back atcha!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:47 PM
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7. check this thread
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:49 PM
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8. Let's hope this is all for the sake of the freepers!
:think:
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nashuaadvocate Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:08 PM
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12. From The Nashua Advocate...
...an analysis of the situation: a December 28th, 2004 article entitled "Analysis: Election 2004: Troublesome Statements By One of Kerry-Edwards' Ohio Attorneys, Explained." Find it at

http://www.nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/

I think Kerry's public position has been pretty consistent -- but understanding that position is meaningless if you don't also understand (i.e., give at least some minimal consideration to) the behind-the-scenes manuvering which puts that position in some context.

The News Editor
The Nashua Advocate

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:43 PM
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14. Lots of GREAT articles there!!!
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:16 PM
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15. Peace Of Mind Here
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