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The Chronicler Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:27 PM
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MO, AR, WV, FL = no longer battleground states
Now hard RED.


We need a paradigm shift, folks. We won't be winning the White House for a LONG TIME.
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:28 PM
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1. nah, not florida
lets just define the issues better. play offense, not defense and see them turn blue
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The Chronicler Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:30 PM
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2. FL is a GOP state as far as I can see
Bush won there by hundreds of thousands of votes.
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:34 PM
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4. KEEP ABREAST OF THE DU POSTS
Florida AGAIN did not vote for awol - the crooked repub voting machines voted for awol no matter what our preference was
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The Chronicler Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 10:54 AM
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13. And your evidence of this is?
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:33 AM
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11. Absentee votes haven't been counted
according to post by MadFloridian.

When those are added (and what about those military votes?)
And what about all the evidence folks here are finding of possible flaws with optiscan counts?

Wait til all the evidence is in before making a decision about that.

Right now:
Fla 3534609 K/3911824 B/dif 377,215
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:37 AM
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12. not with BBV
nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:32 PM
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3. There's no longer a battleground. One party - no elections.
Thu Nov-04-04 07:17 PM
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Kerry Votes Converted to Bush in Ohio
Hope this is not a dupe.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/4/15246/5202
Touch screen voting machines in Youngstown OH were registering "George W. Bush" when people pressed "John F. Kerry" ALL DAY LONG. This was reported immediately after the polls opened, and reported over and over again throughout the day, and yet the bogus machines were inexplicably kept in use THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
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General Zod Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:38 PM
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5. As a former resident of West Virginia , I'm ashamed.....
...that my home state has voted for chimpy the past 2 elections. What's amazing is that the state still has a 2 to 1 ratio of Dem's to Repugs. My mother, who still lives there, says its the "guns, gods and gays" issues that people there were concerned about.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:05 AM
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7. Oklahoma still has more Democratic registrations
than Republicans, but for president, Republicans win by 30 %.
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Adams Wulff Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:52 PM
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6. That sounds like pre-11/2 thinking
EVERY state is a battleground state. I concede nothing. I challenge everything.
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blurp Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:06 AM
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8. Mel Martinez was a factor in Florida this year.
He helped bring the hispanic vote to Bush.
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FeelinGarfunkelly Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:23 AM
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9. As long as there is St. Louis and Kansas City (and hope)...
Missouri is still a battleground. We're kinda like the nation as a whole. There are the coastal areas (CA, OR, WA; NY, New England) that go Blue. The middle is Red. In your average election, if the cities GOTV, we go blue. There's a reason that John Edwards came in 2nd place in our primaries. He packed the house in Ashcroft's territory on two separate occasions: one when he ran for Prez, other as VP cand. In our semi-open primaries (you have to publicly declare a ballot when you go vote), Edwards spoke to those of us in rural Missouri. It wasn't just his accent--it was the substance and the style. "Two americas" resonated because we're LIVING it.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:30 AM
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10. I disagree!
With the right candidate & the right message, those states are still in play.

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