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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:53 PM
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Are any people here doing any real work on this election?
I'm looking thru all the posts, but I am confused if there is any effort as to look in to any of the allegations of fraud.
I'm not trying to start a flame war here or anything, just curious if I have missed anything, or is there no chance at all of anything further than where it stands right now.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:56 PM
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1. Yup. I'm working hard at the moment! NEVER SURRENDER!!! nt
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:57 PM
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2. Thank you
There has just been so much thrown around here in the last few days, it is confusing.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:05 PM
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3. Define what you mean by "real work."
Seriously, I'm curious. I wanna see the responses too. :D

FWIW, I'm doing some real work, but it won't matter for THIS election. We seem to have a pattern of motor-voter registrations getting lost here in Texas. I am collecting all incidents I can find from elections officials I know and plan to use the document to create a nice big stink. (local party, SOS office, media, other local organizations, all that crap.)

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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:11 PM
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4. I didn't mean any disrespect to anyone
I guess I meant to say that I have read hundreds of accusations, findings, stories and things like that. I just meant if anyone here at DU was working on gathering information to be submitted to anyone or any organization concerning the election.
I just feel that the numbers don't add up and I was curious if maybe things were being done behind the scenes to maybe have a chance to overturn the election.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:54 PM
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10. No, I didn't take it that way,
I just wanted to know what you meant, if you were talking to maybe the activists in ohio who might file recount requests, or the Dem leadership, or the indie journalists, or what. That's all. :D
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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:11 PM
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5. As Yogi said "It ain't over til its over" Check out blackboxvoting.com
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 11:12 PM by GettysbergII
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

THURSDAY Nov. 4 2004: If you are concerned about what happened Tuesday, Nov. 2, you have found a home with our organization. Help America Audit.

Black Box Voting has taken the position that fraud took place in the 2004 election through electronic voting machines. We base this on hard evidence, documents obtained in public records requests, inside information, and other data indicative of manipulation of electronic voting systems. What we do not know is the specific scope of the fraud. We are working now to compile the proof, based not on soft evidence -- red flags, exit polls -- but core documents obtained by Black Box Voting in the most massive Freedom of Information action in history.

We need: Lawyers to enforce public records laws. Some counties have already notified us that they plan to stonewall by delaying delivery of the records. We need citizen volunteers for a number of specific actions. We need computer security professionals willing to GO PUBLIC with formal opinions on the evidence we provide, whether or not it involves DMCA complications. We need funds to pay for copies of the evidence.

TUESDAY Nov 2 2004: BREAKING NEWS: New information indicates that hackers may have targeted the central computers that are counting our votes.

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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:15 PM
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6. Will do
Thanks for the link.
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:52 AM
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14. It is .ORG, not .com. We're working on it, and yes, this will tip
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 01:53 AM by BevHarris
Evidence is building pretty fast on Ohio and Florida, and there are indications that fraud may have occurred in at least 30 states. I'm anxious to check the mail tomorrow for the incoming FOIA responses. They are pouring in.

Bev Harris
Black Box Voting
http://www.blackboxvoting.org
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:56 AM
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15. Keep On Trucking
Please and thank you.

The world needs it.
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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:16 AM
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16. What an honor to meet you, Bev. You're the best!
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 02:19 AM by GettysbergII
Wow. I just got done watching the 30 minute trailer of Votergate from your http://blackboxvoting.org website. Wow again! What a powerful movie. I can't wait to see the whole thing.

Thanks for having our backs, Bev. I've emailed to your website reporting for duty. Once my paycheck gets deposited tomorrow I'll send in some funds too. I can't wait to see the results of the massive audit requests blackbox.org filed on Tuesday. It is so cool responses are pouring in. I guess that old saw about how you can fool some of the people some of the time might be true, huh.

Sorry about the .com instead of .org. Must have been a senior moment. I tried editing it but its too late now.

Warmest regards,
Dennis Vail
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 05:02 AM
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17. Hi Bev, Your Efforts Have Been Wonderful - I Personally Watched
the ES&S iVotronic machines make four errors during early voting in Dallas County, TX.

In each case, a voter would select straight Dem and would see one or more pubs show up on the summary page.

Who knows how many errors were never caught or what these machines do on the inside to the cast votes.

Is there any real chance that we will finally see some criminal repercussions for this deplorable situation?

Sincerely,

MHR
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 07:27 AM
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18. Thanks for the correction
I am in Cleveland an we went pretty heavy Kerry. I just am confuse because all the numbers don't match up an it is impossible for me to believe that bush won by that high of a margin.
It's also hard for me to believe that Kerry's people are just bowing out. They have to know that something isn't right about all of this.
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dietdpfan Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:18 PM
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7. I'm mainly just bitching and moaning.
Too exhausted to do anything else!
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:21 PM
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8. lol...well, it's still only a few days after the fact
I am still trying to let it all sink in.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:27 PM
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9. Started Volunteering For The Martin Frost Campaign Way Back In April
Worked roughly 1,500 hours during that time.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:25 AM
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12. Questioning the Results of the Frost Election.
The Frost election was stolen. I stood in an early voting line for several hours. I know that the people around me were voting for Frost. He ran a beautiful well funded campaign and even the moderate Republicans did not like him. We had the black box voting machines in Dallas.

I am guessing that you did a lot of canvassing. What were the people that you were talking to tell you?

I have been voting for Martin Frost since I was old enough to vote. This makes me very sad.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:24 AM
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11. legitgov.org is planning action. Also Bev Harris isn't sitting still.
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:28 AM
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13. Doing the best I can
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