Kerry, the DNC, the State Democratic Organizations Rowed Away in Lifeboats

[BayStateBoy]

leaving us on the Titanic. Nice folks.

[are_we_united_yet]

1. You know

I'm trying not to feel that way. But I do.

I didn't want to say it.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Not if I can help it.

:mad:

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3. what should be done?

[BayStateBoy]

22. They Should Have Done the Opposite of What they Did

For a few things,

Maintained a strong visible presence at all times

Continued to provide leadership & support to members

Fulfilled their promise that every vote would be counted.

Not dismissed the 10,000 lawyers so hastily; listened to the reasons why many of the lawyers wanted to stay and fight

get the idea? I'm too tired for any more now...

[luxpara]

4. Do you actually

think they did that? What did you do?

[BrightKnight]

6. Put Legs on the Voter Fraud Issue

Put Legs on the voter fraud issue and they will have to follow. At very least it is bad politics to ignore this issue. leadreship is needed.

[bywho4who]

15. Welcome To DU

:bounce:

[w13rd0]

5. Would it be rude of me to ask...

...what happened to the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS they raised for the General Election Legal Fund? I'd like to know, because I donated on the night of the election after Edwards spoke.

[jean]

9. and I'm wondering about Kerry's 10,000 lawyers. . . where are they?

[henslee]

11. They're sitting in gassed up airplanes waiting to be dispatched to where

ever there is injustice.

[BayStateBoy]

20. I Understand Kerry Dismissed them. They Wanted to Fight. n/t

[Siyahamba]

25. If he really did just give up

I am going to his residence and throwing my Kerry buttons over the fence.

[w13rd0]

26. not nice...

...but it's one of the funnier things I've read tonight...

[Atlant]

39. I don't believe he has a fence.

> If he really did just give up, I am going to his residence and
> throwing my Kerry buttons over the fence.

I don't believe he has a fence. There is a nice, fenced-in park that
runs down the center of Louisburg Square, though, right in front of
his house -- that might suite your needs.

Here's the neighborhood:




Atlant

[Siyahamba]

42. I hope it doesn't come to that...

I'm still holding a glimmer of hope that he is fighting behind the scenes, but it seems less and less likely. If I find out he just gave up then I'm walking away from him, and from politics, for good. I'm working toward a Master's Degree in Political Science but I'm finding myself more and more soured by politics by the day.

[hinachan]

43. Siyahamba, don't give up! The GOP wants you to give up!

Stay with us and fight the good fight...in 20 years of being involved in politics, I've NEVER seen a candidate cave in like Kerry. Don't let one rotten apple spoil the entire bushel...we need you and everyone like you to take our country back!

[Siyahamba]

46. I'm hanging in there, for now...

[demokatgurrl]

29. Most of them were volunteers- I was one

Our work was finished at the end of the election. There are other PAID lawyers that I assume are still working for Kerry, at least until they are sure no lawsuits are coming or they aren't filing any.

[smirkymonkey]

21. No, that's a good question.

I am still really angry about this I guess.

[pacalo]

7. Accurate way of describing how I feel.

[BayStateBoy]

48. You'd Better Change Your Name to "8 Yr. Nightmare. " Sorry

[pacalo]

51. I was considering that. :)

[blurp]

8. Seems like it.

[Catherine Vincent]

13. blurp?

What kind of screen name is that?

[blurp]

17. Would you prefer blurp_man57?

[crispini]

23. LOL.

Thanks, I needed that laugh.

[Catherine Vincent]

34. LOL! I guess that would be okay.

But you didn't answer my question.

[d_b]

10. I kinda feel that way.

More should have been said by now.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. We really have always been on our own == Since Reagan.

They have been systematically destroying the programs that kept us together. Civil servant jobs, Education ...

While their organizations have been strengthening through churches.

We must have our own organizations. Perhaps revolutionize religion.

[Democat]

14. The Democratic Party website is still only a message of surrender!

What the fuck:

http://www.democrats.org/

Where is information on fighting back or getting ready for the tough battles ahead or 2006 or all of those and a lot more?

Did our entire party get sent to Cuba or flee to Canada or what?

[ProudDad]

18. Puke puke puke

:puke:


:puke:


:puke:




:nuke: bush

[crispini]

24. Oh, now THAT's unrealistic.

They are doing what WE are doing. Thinking, talking, resting, licking their wounds, strategizing. We're doing it in public, they're doing it in private. Do you really expect them to start putting content out on their website TWO DAYS after the election ended? Give them a rest.

Now, the fact that nobody seems to be paying attention to BBV is annoying me. But I'm not entirely sure they'd tell us, anyway.

[robbedvoter]

41. Famous last words:

"I have no time for those crying in your teacups for stolen elections"
John Kerry, campaign trail 2003

[marlakay]

16. I can't even talk about it--my husband is too angry

to talk and it is just depressing.

[smirkymonkey]

19. Raced away in speedboats is more like it.

And I used to get offended when they called Democrats wimps.

[ever_green]

27. This is the first time I've cried since I realised we lost

Man, it finally just hit me. I've been in shock and denial for the last couple days. I feel really abandoned. :(

[bluedonkey]

28. Keep the Faith

Why are we turning on each other?
Don't give up so easy!
I feel abandoned myself,but I will give the Party/Kerry the benefit of the doubt until the last dead line has come and gone.
After that we'll start our own Party,50some million strong!
Vive la Resistance!

[primavera]

30. What else could they do?

Sorry to sound so defeatist and I probably shouldn't even be allowed to post because I've never felt so low in my entire life, but what really would you have them do at this point? The Titanic isn't sinking, it's resting on the bottom of the ocean. No amount of bailing will help.

[Justyce]

31. Is there any hope that they're

really off trying to fight the voting fraud in private? That's my last hope I'm clinging to....

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. I'm not ready to give up on them, yet. Not unless they never

show up to pursue the election fraud.

We've got two tenacious lawyers on the ticket. Here's hoping they remember where they came from.

-----------------------------------------------------------
FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm

[silvershadow]

33. we must hold them accountable

We must write letters, emails, make phone calls etc NON STOP until someone stands up and does the right thing. We need to contact Kerry/Edwards, We need to contact the DNC, We need to contact party loyals like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Also, for what it is worth, Bill Clinton. We need to write letters to the editor, send emails to the mass media. We need to draft an open letter to our friends in other countries. We need to contact the United Nations and declare ourselves a "democracy in crisis" or something similar.

[Copperred]

36. CLINTON IS THE GRANDFATHER OF THIS PARTY GO TO HIM

GO TO BILL CLINTON


ULTIMATELY HE IS NOT THE LIVING GRANDFATHER OF THIS PARTY>...

GO TO CLINTON

[ORprogressive]

35. Yes

I really hope the situation is otherwise, but I do feel that we are all standing alone here.

I haven't heard a peep outside of Kerry's "adios". Is this the first time the Democratic party has made me feel this way? Hell no.

I would love to see a new agenda and a lot of new faces. I would love to have representatives who fight. Look at the DNC website right now! Not even a contact button, just a damn concession letter and no more.

It's time for a new party.

[Pallas180]

49. "It's time for a new party" - absolutely - without the dem name - choose

our own and without politicians who are on the take from lobbyists and corps.

Try America The Beautiful Party - founded by women - let them try to
call "America The Beautiful" unpatriotic...get it....

a name like that...

Americans For Freedom Party

Americans Upholding the Constitution Party

Fuck the bushes party

[donkeyotay]

37. that's the best analogy I've heard

I wonder how Bruce Springsteen feels after singing "No retreat, no surrender"?

Man they got out of here in a hurry. So was Kerry a patsy from the start or did he get a phone call saying that this time the antrax wouldn't come with a warning? What happened to fighting for us?

I can't get that song out of my head.

[Generator]

52. Me either-the song is going to haunt me for a long long time

It was a favorite of mine before this campaign.

I leave ALL explanations open. I think that's good for our sanity. The realism give me hope, the denial gives me hope, the anger gives me hope. It all gives me hope because it means we are thinking and not rolling over dead. I think we all want the truth about the election, about Kerry,about it all. I don't blame any any reactions. Nothing has mad me mad on DU except those blaming gays and saying we need to move into the Republicans corner.

When hell freezes over.

[thethinker]

38. I've been wondering about this

I heard inside information about the final hours inside the Kerry inner circle on talk radio. Can't remember which show but I think it was Hannity. They were talking about who raised their voice and lost their temper, etc. I didn't pay much attention at the time because I was too mad and figured I would read about it later on DU.

I am wondering how this information got out to them when no one posting on DU seems to know what happened that prompted a concession from Kerry. I am wondering if there were republican plants inside his inner circle. If so, who?

Also, since so many people posting on DU have been aware of the voting machine problem since day one - where was DLC and DNC on this issue? Where are they now on this issue?

[Bread and Circus]

40. and took $300,000,000+ with them

[hinachan]

44. http://www.blackboxvoting.org can help!

Go to their site, get involved...if Kerry's not going to fight this battle, we the people must do it ourselves!

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

[robbedvoter]

47. That's the ticket: it's up to us. party is impotent anyway at this point

Tjey burried their heads in the sans until it swallowed them whole.


I actually got invited to a Kerry fundraiser so I could talk to him
about it (Diebold). I raised the issue directly with him and with Teresa. Teresa
was really indignant and really concerned, but Kerry just looked down
at me -- he's about 9 feet tall -- and I could tell it just didn't
register. It set off all his conspiracy-theory alarms and he just
wasn't listening.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/11/04/election_reactions/
index1.html

But we don't need to follow them. We need to keep it up. Already the 4000 votes in Ohio (in a 300 voters precinct) emerged on DU and it's on AP. Let's keep making waves.

[RevCheesehead]

45. Lots of inspiring talk from low-posters, I see...

[Pallas180]

50. Gee , I thought they all announced themselves after the election -

leftovers