I need some help here....its about Sen Kennedy

[OKthatsIT]

Sen Kennedy will ALWAYS be Senator of Massachusetts. Our state will keep him in place till the day he dies. This is precisely why he should be confronted on his passive stance on the Certification of Electoral Vote.

Please call his office, email him...post on the MAssachusetts Dem Party Blog, http://p221.ezboard.com/fmassachusettsdemocraticpartyfrm3

Kennedy's rationalization and refusal to stand up is intolerable.

Please help to enlighten him!

Contact Information

Washington DC EMail Address:
[e-mail]
Washington DC Web Address:
http://kennedy.senate.gov/
Washington DC Web Mail Address:
http://kennedy.senate.gov/cont ...

Washington DC Address
317 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

District Address - Boston
2400 John F. Kennedy Federal Building
Boston, MA 02203
Phone: [phone]

P.S. the receptionist will ask you your 'zip code'...needless to say, having a Mass zip would bare more weight.

[Amaryllis]

1. See this: counter arguments specifically for legislator's objections

This just out from The Dean People this morning to counter reasons for not contesting.
Use for faxes, calls, emails.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=7598&mesg_id=7598

[OKthatsIT]

3. Thanks!...Please folks...the main reason Senators didnt stand up in 2000

was because "nobody asked them to"

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[OKthatsIT]

30. This was a quote from Conyers

he wasnt pleased with repeating it but he wanted us to know the importance of calling and emailing every single Senator across this land.

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[Pacifist Patriot]

5. That is not true!

I once witnessed him cough up an olive. Edited to say, this is actually true. It was at Abici on Cape Cod. Though I can't testify if it was an onion, an olive or an ice cube. He did cough up a drink though. To be fair to the man I also don't know if it was alcoholic or not. He was very gracious when we spoke to him later.

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[zbdent]

10. At least Teddy doesn't

have problems sitting sedatedly, watching TV, and "eating a pretzel".

[Pacifist Patriot]

25. As much crap as he takes for his drinking days....

that man has done a hell of alot for Massachusetts and our country. He has become a completely different person since marrying R.

[asjr]

4. I understand your frustration. I have felt it also. But after reading

on DU about all of this recount strategy, I have begun to wonder if there is an undercurrent of activity that is going on about which we know nothing. The party may be leaving things alone and allowing Conyers to lead. I may, of course, be wrong. I frequently am about things, but it is just a feeling I have about this. Everyone knows the election was stolen, and I can't see Democrats doing nothing about it. There is far more proof of fraud in the election of 2004 than 2000. And I also wonder if the media are laying low about it also. Could be my tin hat is too tight. I hope there is something there.

[OKthatsIT]

7. NO WAY JOSE....wait for Dems to act? you gotta kick em in the ass

They've psychologically isolated/insulated themselves.

We need to light a match under em NOW!

[zann725]

15. I don't think we should EVER just assume something's taken care of...

and do nothing. Those times in my life when I've assumed that stance, I've consistently found out that little had been done by others...and that the issue had fallen-through-the-cracks.

Besides, if we want to win against the Repugs, we have to think like them. Would THEY just assume something was being done by others, and thus do nothing?! Heck NOOOOOO! They always over-plan, and over-recruit their support. We're up against control freaks, and so need to prepare accordingly. Point IS, they're NOT use to Dems having an energized 'base.' So let's get out there, and keep pushing! And WIN!

[asjr]

28. I said I could understand the frustration. I was giving my opinion as

you are and responding to the original message.

[whometense]

33. I have always found

Senator Kennedy to be extremely responsive. I have been wondering the same kinds of things you are wondering.

[Darknyte7]

6. I just call Sen. Kennedy's office...

I'm a DC resident, so I don't have my own Senators to call...

[OKthatsIT]

8. Thank You!!!

again and again...thx!

[merh]

9. I am preparing a letter for the lovely man now!

I am asking him to consider what JFK and RFK would do if they were alive today. I am also asking him why it takes the violence, riots and marches of the '60's to get my representatives to act. Do they want riots, marches and violence?

I am asking that he prove to me and the nation that his staffers were wrong and he does care about democracy and is not worried about his "political clout".

"Only Senator Kennedy's office was rather negative about it, seeming to indicate that there was no point in challenging, and doing so could cause Democrats to lose political clout, to which we asked, "what clout?" (maybe they meant gout?)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=225887&mesg_id=225887

[OKthatsIT]

14. He was the one who talked Kerry into supporting Bush's Iraq invasion

Kennedy was WAY OFF the mark then and he's WAY OFF now. He must be made to realize that HE, OR ALL SENATORS, will not face unemployment...but his inaction jepardizes ALL DEMS who face a future of criminal voting machine systems and criminal BOE's!

[merh]

16. Good point, I will weave that in to my letter!

:thumbsup:

[Amaryllis]

24. Dem senators may be facing unemployment if they don't fix rigged elections

[Amaryllis]

23. Check out these points for your letter!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=7598&mesg_id=7598

[merh]

44. Thanks!

:hi: :thumbsup:

[illflem]

12. If you believe in prayer it looks like Teddy needs it now.

Saw him on the news, although he hasn't looked good for quite some time he looked really bad this morning.

[OKthatsIT]

18. I dont give a gawddamn what he looks like

...I only care about what convictions he stands on/by for the future of this country!

[zann725]

19. Maybe he's feeling 'populist' heat?!

n/t

[Sydnie]

26. Was that footage from the sailors funeral?

I saw that footage yesterday on the local news and had I known he was there (at that funeral), I would have waited for him to leave and spoken to him directly about Thursday.

[carrie_on4truth]

17. I wrote all of the Senators

every single one of them over the weekend, one at a time. I wrote to Democrats and to Republicans. This is my first time doing anything political.

I didn't expect to hear from any of them, I was expressing my thoughts and feelings about Senator Conyer's attempt and urging them to help.

I received one response, from Hillary Clinton, and it was an automated response that said she doesn't read or respond to emails from people who do not live in New York.

Maybe I am naive, my father said she is the best choice for 2008. But I feel that her automated response is insulting. Not one other senator responded in such a way.

Before I get a resentment, I want to ask if anyone else experienced this?

[OKthatsIT]

20. IT DOESNT MATTER WHO RUNS in 2008

the elections will be rigged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zann725]

22. Yeah, I got some of those. And most I never heard from at all...

and I've been writing for some time. Also, I got one from someone (can't remember which) that said he could NOT respond to me since I was NOT a constituent!! I should've saved it so we could all respond to his UNAmerican stance.

[carrie_on4truth]

50. Okay. I won't be offended

by Senator Clinton's response, although it was the only response I got.

It took a long time to write all those senators, even with the cut and paste but it felt good to be doing something.

[NV Whino]

29. This is typical for all senators

They only respond to those in their own district. It does not, however, mean that they don't take notice of e-mails, faxes and letters addressing universal needs.

[Andrea]

34. Writing to Senators

I wrote to every senator individually back on 12/23 to ask them to stand up and object to certifying the electors from Ohio. I got automated responses from a handful and several of those said they don't respond to people outside their state. I still think it does some good to write, because I think they have staffers that keep a tally of the emails they receive, so it's one more in the "please object" column.

It's frustrating to me to live in Ohio, the focus of this fraud (though I believe fraud took place in many states) and have two senators that absolutely don't care.

[Pacifist Patriot]

39. While an automated response is standard, as is

not responding to emails from people who are not constituents, I am surprised to see the "doesn't read" part. The two Senate offices with which I'm familiar read EVERYTHING. Priority is given to constituent mail, but eventually everything is read even if it isn't given a response.

[Jo March]

48. You'll get that from a lot of the Senators, not just Hillary

She is like so many others: she uses a webform and takes calls/emails from the people in her state.

[newyawker99]

54. Hi carrie_on4truth!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Amaryllis]

21. Also see this report from someone who talked to Kennedy staff

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss//duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=225887&mesg_id=225887

[OKthatsIT]

27. MASS ZIP CODES

http://www.digital-topo-maps.com/zip-code/massachusetts-zip-codes.shtml

[bush_is_wacko]

31. Please give an opinion regarding this letter to Senator Kennedy!

I don't want to send this until I get a second opinion!

Dear Senator Ted Kennedy,

I was born on November 22, 1966, three years to the day of your beloved brother’s death. Every year, while I celebrate my birth, I also mourn the death of a man my family loved and respected along with yours. I have always wished I could have lived in the world your brothers, both John and Bobby, could have created. I believe this country would have been a better place if either of them had had the opportunity to fulfill their goals.

I am also a descendant of Oliver Ellsworth. You will recall, I’m sure, that Ellsworth was one of the original framers of our constitution and the third Supreme Court Justice of the United States of America. Although I do not have any political aspirations of my own, I do feel a sense of duty to the country my relative helped create.

I am writing you today to implore you to stand next to your brothers, both John and Bobby, in spirit, on January 6, 2005 and object to the certification of the Ohio electoral votes. I believe with all my heart and soul that your brothers and my relative would be leading the charge to save our Democracy at this juncture in history.

In the immortal words of your brother John, “Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country,” on January 6th. I have always felt you were destined to find a way to fulfill those words. This is your opportunity!

Most respectfully Yours,

XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXX XXXXX

[OKthatsIT]

32. Hey...whatever it takes!

My uncle has the same birthday as you. He also has a hard time with that coincidence...

I think you're entitled to ask this of him!

[bush_is_wacko]

35. Believe it or not this is how my father remembers my birthday! n/t

[renate]

36. I'd start off with the third paragraph

"...stand next to your brothers in spirit..."
VERY powerful and sure to grab his attention.

[bush_is_wacko]

40. Thanks for the suggestion!

I will edit it.

[OKthatsIT]

37. ADD THIS

Check out "The Case for Fraud in Ohio Election 2004" -- it is a thorough summary of what, when, and who committed fraud from Conyers, recount observers, Moss v. Bush, affidavits, DU'ers, FreePress & AP articles and more!

"The Case for Fraud in Ohio Election 2004" < http://www.bpac.info >.

I. Voter Suppression
A. Overly Restrictive Registration Requirements
B. Incompetence in Processing Registrations
C. Challenges to New Registrants on Insufficient Grounds
D. Misinformation About Voting Status/Location/Date
E. Voter Intimidation
F. Voting Machine Shortages/Malfunctions
G. Overly Restrictive Rules & Incorrect Procedure Regarding Provisional Ballots
H. Poorly Designed Absentee Ballots Caused Voters to Mark Incorrect Candidate

II. Access to Voting Systems Before Election Violates Protocol

III. A Third-Rate Burglary in Toledo

IV. Suspect Results
A. Registration Irregularities
B. Exceptionally High Voter Turnout
C. More Votes than Voters
D. Exceptionally High Rates of Undervotes
E. High Rate of Overvotes Due to Ballots Pre-Punched for Bush?
F. The Kerry/Connally Discrepancy
G. Discrepancy between Exit Polls & Tabulated Votes

V. Restricting Citizen Observation & Access to Public Documents
A. Warren County Lockdown
B. Restricting Citizen Access to Election Records

VI. What Went Wrong with the Recounts/Investigation of Vote Irregularities
A. Chain of Custody of Voting Machines & Materials Violated
B. Failure to Follow Established Procedures for Recounts
C. Failure to Allow Recount Observers to Fully Examine Materials
D. Secretary of State Blackwell has Failed to Answer Questions

VII. Recount Reveals Significant Problems

VIII. Methods of Election Fraud
A. Stuffing the Ballot Box
B. Touchscreen voting machines appear to have been set to “Bush” as Default
C. Computers pre-programmed to ‘adjust’ vote count in Bush’s favor?
D. Tampering with the Tabulators: Evidence of Hacking in Real-Time?

IX. Additional Observations
A. Irregular/Impossible Changes in Exit Polls over time on Election Night

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[TheUnspeakable]

38. delete-wrong thread

[mzmolly]

41. Very moving letter.

:toast:

[Yupster]

42. How's about adding

You Senator Kennedy should know more than anyone else that cheating should bring with it consequences, and just like you were thrown out of college when you were caught cheating, President Bush should be likewise thrown out of his office too.

[bush_is_wacko]

45. No offense...

but I don't think he would respond to me belittling him! I don't like to do that to people I'm asking a favor of.

[Yupster]

46. Sorry, I just find it funny

that of all the senators, you're asking the one thrown out of college for cheating to do something about a president who cheated.

Can't you find a senator who'd be in a better position to deal with this issue?

[bush_is_wacko]

47. I have already sent letters to my Senators and quite a few others.

I just thought it was time to confront the one that I think should hear the calling of his ancestors. Politicians aren't perfect. Ted Kennedy certainly is not, but he should feel a sense of duty to this country right now, given the fact that civil rights that his family members died fighting for are being mutilated by the * administration.

[Jo March]

49. Yes - let's what until we find a perfect Senator

One who has no flaws and never cheated, lied or stole from anyone.

:eyes:

[justice4all]

55. Gosh, he's not perfect

(like his brothers?).. He made some big mistakes in college and others since then. But in spite of them he rose to the occasion to be an outstanding senator and advocate for ordinary people.

I think it's perfectly appropriate to ask him to stand up for ordinary people by contesting this election in which their will was subverted.

[saracat]

51. Fabulous letter. I salute you!

[Sydnie]

56. Most excellent letter!! n/t

[emcguffie]

43. With all the election fraud --

None of them can count on keeping their seats. All it takes is some e-voting machines and for the repubs to pick him to unseat. At least, the way it is now.

No seat is safe.

[Woodstock Liberal]

52. I sent him an email...

and told him that I had worked on his brother Bobby's senate & presidential campaigns. I asked that he remember the passion his brother had for fairness in all things and that I need him to restore my belief in my government.
I hope it helps.

[bush_is_wacko]

53. I think he should be the one to lead the charge

He is not my Senator, but I've already written my senators. It just seems to me, his legacy is something which should ring loud and clear in his ears. Everything his family stands for has been trampled and spit on since * took office.