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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:01 PM
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BOXER NEEDS TO HEAR FROM OHIO RESIDENTS!
report by JamBoi 1/3/05

I participated in the "Step out of the box, Barbara!" rally, press conference and meeting w/ Boxer's staff today at Boxer's HQ in San Francisco. A group of 15 activists representing many different constituent groups from Wellstone Voting Rights, East Bay Votes, Dean Democratic Club, United for Peace and Justice and Labor groups met with a Boxer staff member. I was not in the room but spoke with several of the participants that were in the room. There will be in-depth reports available soon on the web, but the essence is that the staff member gave no indication of whether Boxer would contest the vote, except to say SHE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM INDIVIDUAL OHIOANS that were discriminted against or witnessed discrimination or who generally feel that the will of the people of Ohio is for contesting the vote. Ohioans seemed to be the key people that she wanted to hear from. The voting advocates ALSO GATHERED THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OHIO DEMOCRATS before deciding.

The observation of one participant was that the staff member was not knowledgeable about the issue, didn't take many notes and didn't ask many questions. One thing she did ask about was how many constituents the voting rights advocates thought they represented. She also said she was assigned to be their representative to Boxer.

The voting rights advocates included Dolores Herta - UFW Cofounder and civil rights leader, - Labor/Civil Right Atty,. East Bay Votes, Max Anderson, Berkeley City Council and 1st Municipal Voting Rights Resolution, Don Goldmacher, Wellstone Voting Rights Task Force.

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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:08 PM
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1. Didn't they just have a big to-do for Ohio Voters to speak out ?
and didn't they? Babs, pay attention, dear. John Conyers can't do it all, himself, dear.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:16 PM
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2. She's just now waking up???
come on....all these videos of voter's complaints have been out for a long time - someone just email her the sites!! Couldn't Conyers office send all the Senators a package with links and other important stuff?? This makes me think that she won't stand forward as much as I'd love her or anyone too...geez!!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:58 AM
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22. Here's some of her contact info.
http://boxer.senate.gov

112 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3553

http://boxer.senate.gov/contact


Washington D.C.
112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-3553

Sacramento
501 I Street, Suite 7-600
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 448-2787
(916) 448-2563 fax

San Francisco
1700 Montgomery Street, Suite 240
San Francisco, CA 94111
(415) 403-0100
(415) 956-6701 fax

Los Angeles
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012
(213) 894-5000
(213) 894-5042 fax

Fresno
1130 O Street, Suite 2450
Fresno, CA 93721
(559) 497-5109
(559) 497-5111 fax

San Diego
600 B Street, Suite 2240
San Diego, CA 92101
(619) 239-3884
(619) 239-5719 fax

Inland Empire
201 North E Street, Suite 210
San Bernardino, CA 92401
(909) 888-8525
(909) 888-8613 fax
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:21 PM
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3. As a CA resident that is scary how ill informed
Senator Boxer's staff seems to be. Please Ohio resident's help these Californians help you! :)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:25 PM
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4. Perhaps playin' it coy, but calls are what she wants...
calls are what she should get.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:48 PM
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5. DON'T GIVE HER WIGGLE ROOM, I SHOUTED !
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 10:49 PM by sfexpat2000

She said she'd do it if we got an OH rep. We did.

Her phone was ringing like the Bells of St Mary's today. Good going.

So, now OHIO PLEASE CALL HER. And FLORIDA. And NEW MEXICO. And NEVADA. And NORTH Carolina. And LOUISIANA.

you get the picture.
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art3 Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:01 PM
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6. A joke for sure
calls what calls? hah . we are 2 freaking days away from this, now she want calls from ohioans. ugh. last week I got an email saying she wanted ohio reps to stand with her, now its calls she wants. Im really getting angry. MAKE UP YOUR MIND. period. My bet is she aint going to do anything.
art
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:05 PM
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8. Art, she may wimp out. But believe me, if she does stand up it
will be because we didn't secondguess ourselves or her.

It's not her job to take risks. Her job is to network and keep her job.

It's our job to pressure her to take a position that we want her to take. (Boy, does that sound brutal.)

This isn't a joke. This is the democratic process.


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art3 Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:16 PM
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10. No!
I did not mean the democratic process is a joke. I have been working since nov 4 on the issue of supression in Ohio. Ive sent this senator god knows how many letters. I think we all are growing weary of begging for the right thing to be done. aint it sad-we have to beg our own AMERICAN senators to challenge a tainted election. beg. the democratic process isnt a joke, but come on-unless something big breaks our way like tommorrow I think we are sunk. the public knows little of supression or fraud that occured. everyone I talk has no clure what Im talking about. yes, hound those senators, but hound the media too
art
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:32 PM
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13. Oh. Gotcha. For my part, I'm ready to fiddle until God says stop :)
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:05 PM
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7. Can people from other states contact her? For most in Congress, not poss
possible to contact from other states?
Florida people should contact her also.

I think this is an email address for her that works

bulletinfeedback@boxer.senate.gov
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:14 PM
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9. Ohforgawdsakes. She can read the damned lawsuit by Ohio VOTERS
filed by Arnebeck, describing their disenfranchisement and all the other issues. WHAT... she is unaware of the lines and lack of machines?! BS. No way is she unaware. Conyers' letter to senators was addressed to HER.

What's up? I dunno. But needing to hear from individual Ohioans seems nuts.

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:22 PM
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11. It may have something to do with the fact that...
Americans do not really have a constitutional right to vote for president. In other words, election fraud in Ohio, eventhough the outcome will affect everyone, is primarilly an issue for Ohio residents.
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:24 PM
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12. They can call Jesse Jackson! f*ck what's the problem here?
How about Protect Election 2004 giving her a tape. Heard her this morning (radio/90.7 LA) say she "wants to talk to Stephanie Tubbs Jones"... How about talking to Rev. Moss...


P.S. Has anyone heard from Andy? Isn't he on the ground there?
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no_vote_no_count Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:36 PM
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14. What is the number to call her?
I'm in OH and will gladly call, even though I'm really not hopeful that much will be gained other than a token stance at best. I'd be ecstatic if this could lead to a *real* investigation here in OH at least, but I'm not holding my breath.

But if she truly wants calls, I'll be one call at least!

Voting went quickly and smoothly for me, but that's because I live in a very strong Repub stronghold. We had 2 extra voting booths per precinct than in any previous election so there was no wait for me and only a neglible 15 minutes for spouse who voted in early morning before work.

The counties around here, that are Democratic, did have waits of 1-2hrs or more from what I've been told. So that little bit should add to the picture.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:43 PM
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16. Here's Boxer's phone number:
In Washington D.C. (202) 224-3553

Her numbers in Sacramento are:

voice: (916) 448-2787
fax: (916) 448-2563

Since she is currently in Washington D.C., I would recommend calling that number first.
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no_vote_no_count Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:54 AM
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17. Thank-you for the #'s
Maybe you should edit the top post w/ the #'s?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:55 PM
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19. It was too late to edit the post....
is there any definitive news on Boxer?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:36 PM
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15. Oh, you kids (big smile). This week end I listened to a great talk
on C-Span by I don't remember who, and with whom I agreed very little regarding this election.

But, she said this stuff is never taken on by the mainstream people. It ALWAYS starts at the margins. And she counted off a bunch of examples.

She was right.

Keep up the pressure, kept your helmets on and be prepared for the haul.

(Adjusting the foil over the left brim,
Beth)
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:12 AM
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18. kick
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:24 AM
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20. Kick
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:30 AM
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21. Called, left message, have her call lawyers, Arnebeck, working on the case
Rev. Bill Moss is the number one plaintive on the case they have filed in Ohio against the election fraud. They should call him as well, along with the other 36 plaintives on the law suit. But there was a hall full last night at the hearing that Jesse held and many buses are driving to the rally in DC this Thursday. There are individuals marching from near baltimore into DC for the rally.

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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:23 AM
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23. Everyone stop calling for a sec...
it's busy and I want to get through! Thanks for the info! She wants to hear from Ohioans, then she will!
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:39 AM
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24. My email to Boxer
Dear Ms. Boxer,

I live in Hamilton County, home to Cincinnati. The counties surrounding Cincinnati, Butler, Warren and Clermont are considered to be reliably GOP counties. In these counties people do vote republican. Howver as you know no county is 100% GOP.

As you may have heard Warren County, Ohio prevented independent observers and the media from watching the vote tally on election night by citing an unconfirmed Homeland Security threat. Subsequent investigation by the Cincinnati Enquirer determined that the lock out was planned in a closed door meeting on Oct. 25, but the press was not informed.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/05/loc_warrenvote05.html

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/10/loc_warrenvote10.html

In 2000 the Gore campaign pulled out of Ohio. In 2004 the Kerry campaign and other groups such as ACT and MoveOn were very active in Ohio, including reliably GOP counties. Kerry campaign voluteer Liz Kent of Warren County has staed that Kerry yard signs and volunteer canvassing and phone banking in Warren were amazing in 04. Yet we are to believe that Kerry did no better than Gore did in 2000.

Statistical anomalies in these Southwestern Ohio counties indicate that something is not right about these results.

The Supreme Court Justice race was between Thomas Moyer (R) and an African American female municipal judge from Cleveland named C. Ellen Connaly. She was so underfunded I saw not a single commercial or yard sign, and I live in a democratic precinct. The GOP candidate however did have yard signs all over Butler, Warren and Clermont county AND was endorsed by the Cincinnati Enquirer:
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/27/editorial_ed1b.html

Yet C. Ellen Connaly a retired African American municipal court judge from Cleveland got substantially more votes than Kerry in a down ticket race in areas where voting a straight GOP ticket is the norm for a certain percentage of people in those counties. I do not believe that Bush voters accidentally voted for a democratic judge from Cleveland because they could not remember the name of the incumbent GOP judge.

Add to that the lockdown of the vote tabulation in Warren County due to a Homeland security threat that Homeland Security and the FBI have denied and a podunkville county like Warren completing their tabulation so late that Cuyahoga, a county of 1 million people got their tallies in before Warren.

Mama didn't raise no fool. Bush did not get 71% in Warren County. And probbaly did not do as well as they claim in Butler, Clermont and Hamilton County.
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jn2375 Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:12 AM
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25. keep kicked
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:15 AM
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26. Keep kicked - We need Ohioans to contact her
We need EVERYONE to contact her.

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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:01 AM
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27. Just sent message from Ohio
Pass it on:kick:
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:48 PM
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM
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29. kick..It's not too late.
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