If your senator does not stand up on the 6th, who will you vote for next?

[merwin]

Simple question... lots of senators seem to be showing a lack of interest in saving Democracy. What will you do if the person speaking for your state refuses to see what's directly in front of them and doesn't stand up in support on the 1/6/05

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. It's easy to have "balls" if no one cares what you say.

That's why the 3rd Party candidates seem so bold.

[merwin]

2. That is one way to think about it

I know I'm going 3rd party in the future if my elected officials refuse to do anything.

[purduejake]

3. Yea, it's so damned easy being in a 3rd party these days.

</sarcasm>

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. Way to misread the statement.

What's easy about being a 3rd Party candidate is that you have the freedom to say whatever you want because you're most likely not going to get elected anyway. What's not easy is the slim-to-none chance of getting elected.

But you know what? Read things however you wish. Truth doesn't matter anymore.

[purduejake]

16. Yea, I just wanted to distort the truth...

I recall Howard Dean having balls and he paid for it. Their willingness to stand up against others is one reason why the media won't give them any attention. Sorry, it does take courage to be different. I wish you could see that.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

24. I can see that.

The problem is you only made a glib remark without stating any of what you just did. No one can read your mind, so perhaps you should be a little more clear about what you're saying the first time around.

[purduejake]

28. You're right.

To an extent. I was not trying to mislead anybody. I just found it hard to believe people in here would not appreciate how difficult it is to challenge injustices in this country- regardless of political party. Because of that miscalculation, I did not explain it as much as I probably should have. My apologies.

edit: typo

[PATRICK]

21. I think you might be able

to tell if a third party candidate was someone who was either boldly naive or someone prone to morphing into the establishment once success reared its ugly head. I do get the sense, that principles or not, many third party leaders are not up to crashing through the leadership barrier- as vacated as it now is by the major parties who got the game down pat.

People with that degree of savvy and sway end up getting drafted to the majors and not just as a career advancement but as a way to really jumpstart their principles(more fool they). One major party REALLY has to melt down. As much as I would hate for it to be the Dems with their many fine people I would hope to see some large exodus to retrieve the lost center of the nation's soul. Funny, the fabled infighting in the party never crosses into the tempting possibilities of a new or renewed party. Oddly, the one article of power they cling to keeps the withering ranks in line. And the "New Democrats" was a disastrous realization of remaking the party into the Old Deal pre-FDR party while tolerating the labor, minorities and progressive wings that do the real flying. That lone voice of "New" should never have gone unchallenged. It has poisoned the very capacity for growth.

[seito]

4. I will look VERY carefully at what they do to bring about election reform

If they do not represent my interests, they will not get my money.

I may choose to support a candidate that I feel will better represent me.

[ClassWarrior]

6. You missed, "I will vote for your mother."

NGU.

[EFerrari]

19. And, "Whoever Triad picks for me" n/t

[Demit]

7. Mine are Specter and (bleeh, bleeh) Santorum. Guess I'm sitting this one

out. Repuke and Repukier. But I will be interested to see where PA House Dems come down on the issue...

[Walt Starr]

8. Can't answer

I'm probably going to vote for Durbin in the next election but after the tinfoilhat theories, I'm leaving the possibility open that I'll vote for somebody else.

If Durbin was idiotic enough to contest the election, I'd vote against him no matter what.

[tx_dem41]

17. I agree! (if I lived in Illinois) n/t

[TexasSissy]

9. What happens on 1/6/05 for those of us who have been away

(either literally or figuratively away).

[merwin]

11. Chance to contest the Ohio electoral votes due to rampant fraud

[merwin]

10. IMHO, if democrats want to stay silent, they deserve to lose people

The options are:
Stay silent, let the Republican party beat you to death with fraud and supression constantly OR voice your opinion and try to make a difference.

If the Democratic party stays silent, we can doom ourselves to never win another major election.

[flyarm]

14. if the dems stay silent

i can assure you so many i saw who came out for this election ..here in fla where i was a pollwatcher..and delegate..they will stay home and never vote again...
and i can assure you..i would never vote for a repub ...but i won't give another dime to the dem party..not one red cent!!
i gave alot to this party in dollars and labor ..and if the dems think all our work and all our votes don't matter ..well then the hell with them all!!
they are supposed to be representing us..and if we are telling them to contest and they don't , then they no longer work for me!

fly

[jobycom]

12. Sure, I'll vote for any third-party Senator who stands up.

I enjoy symbolism that achieves nothing.

[theblasmo]

13. Oklahoma

I'm from Oklahoma, so basically, I'll vote for anyone who's not in office right now, as long as they're not worse, which -- in Tom Coburn's case -- may be impossible without reviving Hitler. The only reason Coburn or Inhofe would stand up on the 6th is if they were standing and applauding the deception.

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. What 3rd party Senators have had the balls to stand up?

:shrug:

[merwin]

20. We will see... n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

27. Considering that there is only one Senator that is not a Dem or GOPer

and that he really isn't a third party (he is an independant who was elected as a Republican)...

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

18. I'll never again vote for a party that doesn't value an accurate vote--

ever. It's a waste of time, energy, money, and heart.

[Pithy Cherub]

22. My political dollars and volunteering will be

targeted to those who deserve it and show leadership on the preservation of democracy.

[jackster]

23. AS MUCH AS IT HURTS...

I won't vote for Kennedy if he won't stand up and he's indicated he won't. At least that's how I feel now.

As far as Kerry goes - I will wait and see what happens.

If the DNC elects a republicanwannabe, I'm probably going to leave the party anyway

it won't represent my ideals any longer

[kcass1954]

25. I have no choice other than to vote DEM in 06

Martinez stole the Senate election from Betty Castor in November. And Bill Nelson has already been targeted by Dobson. I wouldn't even consider voting for anyone else.

[merwin]

26. But there is always a choice...

[righteous1]

29. What's the choice... not vote?

[merwin]

30. If you don't believe that the dem or repub will do their jobs, then

do either of them deserve your vote? The arguement could be made for 'lesser of two evils', but IMHO that's not a good arguement.

[Old and In the Way]

31. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I'd like to see our elected officials performance on this issue become the defining criteria for their next primary campaign. We should make them take a pledge on the lines of what the NH taxpayers demand from their elected officials to pledge not to raise taxes. We need to make support of transparent/auditable elections the primary pledge from our candidates.

[glitch]

32. I'll vote for the Progressive challenger in the next Democratic Primary.

And I'll work to get that Progressive to make that challenge.
Fascists may be able to take over the Republican Party, but I won't be part of letting them take over mine.

[Pacifist Patriot]

33. Is running against him an option?

[hootinholler]

34. I will write in Smith & Wesson.

-Hoot

[sparky_in_ma]

35. Senator Kennedy is

still, by far, one of the most progressive members of the senate. I'd have to vote for him again. I'd vote for John Kerry in the senate again, but he'll be in the white house.:thumbsup:

[OKthatsIT]

36. Ya know...John Edwards really got shafted by all this

I feel for the guy...(shaking my head)...wish he had said something, too.

For the life of me, I cant figure this post election stuff out anymore. Did everyone get an offer from the Carlyle Group?

[roenyc]

37. If one senator stands

i will forgive the others. but if non stand i will be sending letters out and you know i will be very disappointed and i dont know if voting third party is the right thing, but i dont want to give my vote to someone who doesn't respect the process.

hey what is the point? the vote is rigged. if a senator doesn't stand the system will never be fixed. diebold will still be around and will find a way.

this entire thing has become a mess. just like Iraq got out of hand this election thing got out of hand. if Kerry came forward right away it would have looked really bad. but it would have looked a lot worse for bsh and all those weird republican house and senate members that all of a sudden got Selected.

the democrats have to stop worrying about how things look. who is going to think they are sore losers or whatever. we have to have guts - hell the republicans say rediculous things everyday and get away with it! its our turn.

Delay said today that he had his damn mandate to fix the problems the liberals made!! hello!!! ok, i am getting carried away. sorry.