What about the truth?

[Generator]

"Shhh....stop making that noise! You sound like a crybaby. You're drawing too much attention! Kerry lost, get over it. Move on to 2008."

Every time someone says that, it's like a bitch-slap straight from GOP headquarters. You're doing the work for them. Telling us that we're wasting our time investigating the 2004 election is exactly what they want you to do. Do you know how hard it is to focus on the 2004 election when you have the wingnuts AND your own fellow liberals telling you to give up and move on? And that's exactly what they want. Because the GOP knows that the Dems are at a point where they think they have to watch their image, so they'll do anything not to rock the boat, not to seem "obstructionist," to be more appealing to Joe Blow who lives in Idaho and watches NASCAR all day.

But we have to stop playing their games, and it should end right here and now with this election. Who the fuck cares what the Republicans think of us? Or the SCLM? When the hell did the quest for the truth become a fucking popularity contest?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/3/2220/02787

BRAVO! I don't know how much time I'll be spending around DU in the future..but the truth is the point. Not winning.

Bullshit mandate. Bullshit lies. Bullshit election. If you don't get that, then you really think you are winning next time? YOU aren't going to win by appeasing and playing nice, and just "crafting the right message" next time.

"If only Kerry would have attacked the Swiftboat vets sooner."

Bullshit.

If only the people that wanted to vote for Kerry were able to get their vote counted and didn't have to go challenged and discouraged at every instant from casting that vote in those "battleground states."


If only. Who is going to vote for your great nominee in 2008? Who? And those Black folk, those poor folk, those Hispanic folk's votes are going to be counted, right?

If the votes aren't counted, what's the point?

The truth about this election. And you don't know the truth. How dare us ask for it.

[Quakerfriend]

Thanks Generator.........I agree with you.

I'm beginning to agree with M. Moore when he said we are acting like the victims of abuse!

[Cocoa]

1. Kos wasn't telling anyone to give up

[RaulVB]

6. No, right...

He was just telling them to get the hell out of his site if they didn't like the ways he manages the "debate" there.

What a difference!

[ooglymoogly]

2. It appears to me that Koss's complaint is

that we are grasping at straws searching for the truth and I say of course we are but some of those straws are strong enough to weave into a noose and if we don't pursue every straw, every whiff of smoke in a last ditch effort to save our once great democracy then we are fools. Look what the pugs did to Clinton with no straws and no smoke on the only thing that mattered, his job performance. All they had was just personal shit and the press was totally complicit in trying to bring him down. They did it by blowing every ounce of crap into a cyclone; and that is what we are trying to do with some pretty damning evidence and without the help of the press. We have only the internet and I for one do not believe shrub won.

[TruthIsAll]

4. We are NOT grasping at straws. We already have way more than enough...

evidence to justify a full-blown investigation.

[ooglymoogly]

9. Koss mentioned the straws that didn't pan out, the ones that have been

debunked and that was part of what I was addressing; and yes in my opinion we have enough evidence to weave a noose to hang the pugs but we have to scream louder than the pugs because the press belongs to the pugs.

[EFerrari]

14. Obviously Kos isn't a reader. Bad manners, for a writer. no?

[TruthIsAll]

3. Right on, Generator! Exactly! We need more of your kind.

If we don't fight now, when?

God, these pantywaists who want us to just move on a THIRD time (yes, we were robbed in 2000 and 2002) can go to hell.

[fooj]

11. YES!!!

We did nothing after 2000 and now they OWN both Houses!! Care to guess how that may have happened? I believe it it my moral responsibility to expose these bandits for what they really are! It is our duty as American citizens to fight for our country NO MATTER WHAT!!! I will not stop fighting to protect and defend MY Constitution.


WHAT ARE THEY HIDING???:think: :think: :think:

[RaulVB]

5. Keep it up, Generator!

Guys like you will prevail.

Guys like KOS will be long gone when the truth comes out!

You are in the right side of history.

[understandinglife]

7. Yes, we fight now. (n/t)

[BigBearJohn]

8. You gave us the bottom line. You speak the truth brother.

My mother always told me politicians were a bunch of crooks.
At 54, I beginning to believe her.

Axiom: Truth is simple. Lies complicate.

[fooj]

10. OURS IS A MORAL AND JUST CAUSE!!!

And that is what sustains me! Truth is our most valuable asset!!!!!!




WHAT ARE THEY HIDING???:think: :think: :think:

[No Exit]

12. Very well said! I wholeheartedly agree with you!! n/t

[merh]

13. They want us to do what others did in 2000, forget about it,

roll over and accept it! Damn it, if many here had pursued things in 2000, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today.