The rightwing media is pumping Hillary '08 hard already.

[The Chronicler]

Wonder why?

It's because she represents more of the same and would get blown out. She would win in coastal areas and get demolished in the middle of the country. We need a paradigm shift. We need to try and run a candidate that will be competitive in places where we normally are not. Byron Dorgan? Leonard Boswell? We need to somehow connect with farmers and unions again.

[NYCGirl]

1. They're doing it to fire up their base. And raise money for the RNC.

NT

[The Chronicler]

3. That too.

I cringe whenever I hear someone on TV say her name. She is a polarizing figure.

[BayStateBoy]

21. Great. It Should Distract them while we pursue voting fraud

[BlueEyedSon]

2. She should announce that she is not interesed ASAP

[Justitia]

6. I agree with this - she needs to clear this up immediately.

This is simply red meat for the wingnuts.

Unless of course, she LIKES stoking the fires, and her silence on this is beginning to make me wonder.

Also, Bill Clinton had an opportunity to knock this down last year in an interview I saw with him and he said basically "who knows"? My mouth fell open like "WTF????"

She is either really considering it (stupid) or is enjoying the show at our expense. This "Hillary" fixation puts the focus on us, when it should be on the malignancy in the White House!

[VoteJohn04_com]

20. She wants it

She wants it, But I think she realizes that she
can't realistically ACHIEVE it.

There is NO way that she will be the nominee, it would
mean a sure win for whomever the Republicans chose--even
if it was FALWELL!

If they're going to start looking to 2008 before we're
even done with 2004--perhaps they should look right
under their noses...

EDWARDS - He's the only choice to take it back but he
needs to beef up on his foreign relations experience
and stay active over the next 4 years.

Also--needs a strong VP to "fill in" for the weaknesses
that the media pins him with.

My opinion... 2 choices for VP that would kick Republican butt!

Edwards-McCain or Edwards-Clark!

[Free2BMe]

23. We are a WASMRP nation...and a long way from electing a female

to the presidency...I certainly would like to see it in my lifetime...but middle America is dominated by the WASMRPs.

[NYCGirl]

9. Good idea, but that won't stop them. (eom)

NT

[ewagner]

4. This pisses me off!

I've seen a lot of it on CNN and MSNBC and I know this is a real attempt to frame the issues and define the democratic party by the news media.....

When you see the republican talking heads mouthing this over-and-over-again, you know the stage is being set for the next elections.

[cheezus]

5. I think Byron Dorgan could do it

really, we need a return to populism, and Dorgan is a highly respected senator from a midwestern red state that just won re-election in a landslide.

I'd work my butt off for him.

[formernaderite]

33. Okay....everyone repeat after me....NO more Senators!!!!

There are Governors we can choose from that will have the executive appeal the public wants.

[Old and In the Way]

7. You are right.

Pat Buchanon made that statement last night. They are really pushing this RNC talking point.

She'd be perfectly acceptable, but the real reason is that they could convince the public that "middle America, home of "moral values" rejected her....it would provide cover to steal another election again.

Note to the DLC/DNC.....either you come up with a strategy and solution to make sure our votes for you count in 2006 or this old guy won't be bothered to play along with the charade anymore.

[Gyre]

8. They're gonna drive us 50 feet underground

and "Hillary in '08" is going to be their mantra. Oy, this sucks.

Gyre

[thinkingwoman]

10. the Dems MUST run someone with NO baggage

real or fabricated...baggage is baggage.

We need someone they've never even heard of yet.

[lancdem]

18. I think that CW is wrong

Bill Clinton had baggage out the wazzoo and won two terms, and Al Gore and John Kerry didn't have baggage to speak of, and where are they now? I'm not endorsing Hillary by any means, but it's because I don't think she could win in this current climate, not because she has "baggage."

[thinkingwoman]

19. She's hated, and implicated

in the death of foster, as well as other made up shit.

Seriously, she has baggage, even if NONE of it is fair or earned.

[lancdem]

22. She's also loved by Dems

[thinkingwoman]

26. not by all dems

and not by enough to counter the anti-hillary voters.

You think hating gays brought out repukes? Try running hillary and see what happens.

They won't need to cheat to beat us.

[Free2BMe]

24. All the more reason she will stand proud and if she runs..I'm in!

[thinkingwoman]

27. hey, that's your right

you are free to support her.

I am free to say nominating her will equal a loss.

[OHdem10]

11. Anytime they push Hillary to the

fore, this means thee Republicans are not so sure of themselves and they are trying to shore up their base. They do not want their supporters to wake up and realize they made amistake. W has a lot bad siturations coming--Falluja. ON SS the working class and poor are going to learn exactly where and who the Republicans care about.
They use the Media to keep Hilary out there because unfairly half the country hates her. Thanks to Republicans. Further the Republicans think using Hilary dimishes Dem. Party. No this is not fair. Since when has airness counted in this country.

[lancdem]

17. I agree

Everyone should just calm down. 2008 is an eternity away in political years.

[buckettgirl]

12. you won't get farmers

I live in rural kansas. The farmers, and there are many, vote republican every time. Good god! Our senators are Pat Roberts and Sam Brownback! It's horrible. The dems here don't want to run anyone against the repubs in office because they know they will lose. Often times they run for re-election uncontested or with some obscure dem/libertarian that doesn't campaign.
I don't know why it is that way here. I don't know what the farmers think. But I don't think it is likely that they will change their minds

[The Chronicler]

13. It will take time

but it's important that we try and re-connect with these people. It can start by the party as a whole becoming more anti-slave trade.

[Free2BMe]

25. They need to get there heads out of the dung heaps...

U've really never met too many that weren't absolute chauvanists.

[silvershadow]

14. There is no way I would support Hillary....

That is what they want us to do. We would get creamed. First we have to fix the black box voting or it won't matter who we run.

[Minstrel Boy]

15. Nothing gives away a troll like stumping for Hillary.

It should almost be a DU rule: post "Hillary in 2008!" and you are tombstoned.

[SOS]

16. Hillary?

Oh well, there's always 2016.

[Free2BMe]

28. think '08 ticket..if not top...VP

[hollywood926]

29. Sorry, but I'm sick of middle-aged white males...

representing me. It's time for Barack Obama and/or Hillary Clinton. I realize the inbreds in the dumb states can't stomach the idea of a woman who can speak - they much prefer the Stepford wife with the fake smile - but I don't give a shit. My God, even Pakistan has had a female leader.

It's time to call people out for what they are and ridicule them accordingly. They certainly do it us.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

30. Yeah, their pushing Hillary '08 is EXACTLY like

B'rer Rabbit saying to B'rer Fox, "Please don't throw me into that briar patch."

I've just finished reading Blinded by the Right, and David Brock mentions that one of the things that drove him out of the Republican party was its over-the-top hatred of Hillary.

[abumbyanyothername]

31. Hatred

Hatred was a loser in '04. Who hated anyone more than we did Bush?

I support HC08 and I am NOT a troll.

We have fvcked up SO BADLY running these "electable" people and abandoning our ideals.

We used to be a party of ideals and integrity.

Now we would do ANYTHING to win.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

32. Well, if ideals and integrity are what we need, Hillary isn't our best bet

I don't think she's a sleaze or evil, as the freepers do, but I think she's too wiling to concede to the Republicans.