CASE-MN meeting with Senator Dayton

[Bill of Rights]

Our Senator did not have the printed materials from Conyers at the time of the meeting. They have been requested, however, and he probably now has them.

Since Dayton was out of the country, he was getting his information from the MSM. He did not know the particulars. He thought the 2004 election was like any other election where you can shine a spot light and see a few irregularities. He had no idea of the scope of the problems. He knows more now.

Dayton has a meeting tomorrow with CAEF (Citizens Against Election Fraud). They are the ones who arranged the meeting for CASE-MN.

[vj68]

1. KIck

:dem:

[Wilms]

28. Contact info for the Gentleman

contact form/email
http://dayton.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

Call:
1-800-224-9043

web:
http://dayton.senate.gov

[buddysmellgood]

2. ARRRG. How can these senators not know the scope of the problem?

They're supposed to have the inside track on the dirt.

[catgirl]

6. They don't read e-mails...

Each state needs a delegate to meet with their Senators. E-mails and faxes are sorted and form letters get sent out. Check local DFL offices to see if a delegate has met or is meeting with key Senators.

[pbartch]

26. ANYONE CONTACT RON WYDEN from OREGON????

WHAT DOES HE THINK ABOUT THE VOTE FRAUD?

I've emailed several times but have not heard back. I will phone his office tomorrow

[floridadem30]

3. kick

[SueZhope]

4. its really scray that

elected officials would think they get news from MSM.
thanks for the follow up Bill of Rights

[Bill of Rights]

8. I think they get a lot more information

when they are interested in and working on an issue. Once again, we hear that when Kerry conceded, it was over in most people's minds. And the MSM stories about the Ohio recount are lame, too. They usually only say that there was no real difference, and that the recount proves that Bush won.

[Bill of Rights]

5. Can someone direct me to these stories

I am putting together a cheat sheet for our rep. He was asked back, and will sit in Dayton's office until he has a free moment to speak with him.

Can someone direct me to these stories:
1. Regarding the provisional ballots ... and Blackwell changing the rules to be more strict. Went from voting anywhere in your county to only voting at your precinct. Did a judge rule on this?

2. What is the lastest on modem access to voting machines? Did they have access during the election?

Thank you, in advance.

[catgirl]

10. There was a ruling on this

the dems fought this like hell and lost. On election day voters were often directed to place their ballots at the wrong precinct table.

[life_long_dem]

13. cheat sheet link:

http://shadowbox.i8.com/stolen.htm


You may know about this website, if not, there is alot of great info.

[vj68]

15. #2

When asked if Triad had serviced the machine, the deputy director and a board member stated that they had serviced the machine over the phone via modem on December 9th. The ballots were run through the machine and the Jackson numbers matched. The Van Wert 1D numbers showed an extra vote for Kerry. After recounting the ballots, we found that the undervote in the precinct had become a vote for Kerry. This was agreed upon by all observers. The rest of the precincts were then machine counted.

http://www.votecobb.org/recount/ohio_reports/counties/vanwert.php

[vj68]

16. #1

I’ll go look for links from the MSM. HI ya Scout.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/11/03225/949

The new ruling in Cuyahoga County mandates that provisional ballots in yellow packets must be "Rejected" if there is no "date of birth" on the packet. The Free Press obtained copies of the original "Provisional Verification Procedure" from Cuyahoga County which stated "Date of birth is not mandatory and should not reject a provisional ballot." The original procedure required the voter's name, address and a signature that matched the signature in the county's database.


Diaries :: Renee in Ohio's diary ::

Lovegren described the clerks as "kind of disturbed" after the new ruling came down. She said that one of the clerks told her, "This is new. This just came down. They just changed it in the last thirty minutes." According to Lovegren, 80 yellow-jacketed provisional ballots piled up in the hour and 45 minutes she observed. By Lovegren's tally, three provisional ballots were rejected because the registered voters' registration had been "cancelled." The rest, she said, were being discarded because of no date of birth.










http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/15/143151/76

Ironically, the provisional ballot rule changes engineered by Sec. Blackwell help make the case for discrimination much stronger than it would have been otherwise.

That is, Blackwell appealed a lower court ruling that would have required provisional ballots to be accepted if cast in the correct county. The 6th Circuit Court of appeals ruled in Blackwell's favor, saying that "we hold that ballots cast in a precinct where the voter does not reside and which
would be invalid under state law for that reason are not required by HAVA to be considered legal votes."

see: http://pacer.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/04a0367p-06.pdf

[vj68]

19. More on #2

I asked the Directors in both Henry and Fulton counties whether Triad had been out to service the tabulators after the election and both said no.

The Director for Fulton told me that Triad is able to reprogram the computer to count only the Presidential ballots by remote dial-up. I do not know when after the election that occurred.

http://www.votecobb.org/recount/ohio_reports/counties/henry.php

[vj68]

22. More on #1 from MSNBC Wire Services

Updated: 5:28 p.m. ET Oct. 6, 2004

"Blackwell also ordered election boards to send voters who show up at the wrong polling place to their correct polling place instead of letting them cast a provisional ballot. Provisional ballots ordinarily are provided to registered voters who have moved but not updated their registration. The ballots are set aside and then inspected to make sure they are valid. More than 100,000 provisional votes were cast in the 2000 election.

Officials in Cuyahoga County _ the state's largest _ said they will do their best to send voters to the right precinct but will also accept provisional ballots. On Tuesday, Blackwell told the board that failure to comply with his order "will result in official action, which may include removal of the board and its director."

The Ohio Democratic Party sued, saying federal law allows voters to cast provisional ballots at any polling place in their home county. The Democrats said Blackwell's ruling disproportionately affects poor and minority voters, who tend to move more often. A ruling could come by Oct. 15."


:dem:


"Blackwell initially told election boards that registration cards had to be printed on heavy, 80-pound paper stock, saying lightweight cards could be shredded by postal equipment.

After being criticized, he said boards should accept all forms, then send voters the proper card to fill out for the permanent record. Some boards said they would skip that last step and just accept all forms."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6191980/

Edited to add link

[Scout1071]

7. Great update BOR!

So, you met directly with him? What type of materials did you share with him or leave with him? Saw a thread the other night about a group with some great materials. I know they put a ton of work into it (as I'm sure you have) and stopped in several Senators' offices. (Sorry guys, if you read this thread = apologize for being too lazy to look up the thread and give you proper credit!)

How could he not know anything?


Nice to see you and vj!

[Bill of Rights]

9. Scout

I did not meet with anyone. I just am reporting on what happened.

[catgirl]

11. There's a copy of Conyers letter floating around

Does anyone have it. You can work out a cheat sheet around this.

[Gloria]

12. Why the F*CK hasn't the DNC had a CENTRALIZED collection

team in place to gather the info and distribute it to ALL Democrats in Congress???

WTF do they DO?????

Don't you think the Repugs would organize and engineer an effort if the situation were reversed????

[Bill of Rights]

14. It's clear that the DNC is not for this

If they were, the materials would be laid out, and promptly delivered.

[Freddie Stubbs]

25. Yet Conyer's materials have not yet been delivered either

Does that mean that it's clear that Conyers is not for this?

[Clark2008]

18. They don't care...

they're too busy still trying to figure out where the Swifties came from.

[mzmolly]

32. I TOTALLY AGREE!

WTF!?

We so need Dean! Terry McCauliffe is a nice man, but totally ineffective. His choice to have our convention early also proved fatal.

[Bill of Rights]

17. John Conyers' report goes out on Wednesday

So, the Senators will receive them tomorrow. Well, that makes more sense.

I found out in the latest Raw Story.

[Mister Ed]

20. I hope they'll emphasize the disenfranchisement of black citizens.

That is what I have stressed when writing to Senator Dayton, and will continue to stress in calls and faxes tomorrow.

The massive disenfranchisement of blacks and other minorities was a colossal crime. All by itself, that crime is ample justfication for contesting the electoral vote.

Senator Dayton need not fear that standing tall and doing the right thing will harm his political future. This is still America (barely), and his home state is still Minnesota. We Minnesotans have squarely rejected the Busheviks twice now.

Our Senator Wellstone faced such a decision in the autumn of 2002. In that year's election, he was running neck-and-neck against an opponent who was massively financed by the Bush white house, the RNC, and out-of-state corporations. He stood up and voted against Bush's Iraq war, political consequences be damned. It was that courageous vote that sent him surging ahead in the polls, and would have assured his victory if not for a tragic aircraft accident.

I think Mark Dayton is a man of decency and integrity. Minnesota's voters reward such virtues. Standing up for justice on January 6th might be the bold move that assures his reelection in 2006.

[redacted]

21. I faxed 27 pages of material to his DC and Minneapolis area offices

overnight last night. This is VERY frustrating. WTF?

Here's the document I faxed him, the best summary I could find:

http://www.bpac.info/pdfdocuments/OhioFraudSum2.pdf

Other formats are available at the root directory level.

Here in California it's not very late. I could flood his DC office with info. But there are other senators like Boxer and Feingold who are under pressure to join Conyers on Thursday and I need time to send them additional material as well.

BREAKING NEWS: Since last night, astonishing undercover pictures have surfaced that show Triad's own employees performing the recount, which is a clear violation of Ohio election law. Maybe Senator Dayton should see these FIRST? How much more proof could anyone need than actual photos?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=234616

[Bill of Rights]

23. Thank you for the material and info

Redacted and vj68. I forwarded the links and excerpts to our representative.

[Bill of Rights]

24. Redacted, it's the best summary

I have seen, too. I glanced through it, and found it to be very thorough and exacting. Again, thank you very much.

I sent it to Mark and everyone on my email list.

[Al-CIAda]

31. Great summary -eom

.

[Wilms]

27. Or he knows the whole deal and is just waiting to pounce 1/6. n/t

[leftchick]

29. Good Lord. I can not believe they still rely on MSM for information.

Thanks for the update!

[keepthemhonest]

30. I wonder why they did not have

the papers yet with all the iiregularities. It is a good thing that your group made it a point to meet with the senatorwe'll be watching to see what he does tomorrow. One day to go.

Did the senator sound like he may lean one way or the other?Thanks for the update.

[mzmolly]

33. This is what some of us have been saying all along. They don't view

this like we do because they are "insulated." They don't have time to peruse internet blogs. The MSM is not highliting this because they want the election *over* .

GO DAYTON! I really have faith that My Senator, Mark Dayton will follow his head/heart on this matter.

:toast: