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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:56 PM
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AP story says Group of House Democrats to contest
The story is making it's way around the wires- sorry if it's a dupe.

Found on Yahoo
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&u=/ap/20050105/ap_on_go_pr_wh/electoral_vote&printer=1

And also SF Gate
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/01/04/national1856EST0699.DTL
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Small group of House Democrats to contest formal electoral vote count
ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer

Tuesday, January 4, 2005
(01-04) 16:04 PST WASHINGTON (AP) --

A handful of House Democrats plan a long-shot effort to snarl President Bush's formal re-election by preventing Congress from counting Ohio's pivotal votes when lawmakers tally the electoral vote on Thursday.

Snip
In a measure of the dispute's political delicacy, proponents are considered unlikely to find a senator who will co-sign the objection, which is required to force Congress to act on the challenge. Most Democrats are reluctant to launch a serious effort to undo the election, in which Bush outpolled Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), D-Mass., by more than 3 million votes nationally.


Even so, Rep. John Conyers (news, bio, voting record), D-Mich., has sent letters to senators seeking their support for his plan to object to the counting of Ohio's 20 electoral votes, which gave Bush his November victory over Kerry. Some Ohio voters have complained of Election Day fraud, citing a shortage of voting machines at precincts with minority voters, unusually long lines and computer problems.


"I am hoping that you will consider joining us in this important effort to debate and highlight the problems in Ohio which disenfranchised innumerable voters," wrote Conyers, top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee (news - web sites).


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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:58 PM
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1. " No one expects the action to undo Bush's victory."
hmm. did this writer question every single possible Rep that is contesting the election if they believe this?

they always throw this shit in there, no matter who said what to who and when. GIVE IT UP AP :hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:00 AM
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2. Do you know what else people don't expect?
Ximinez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

(The Inquisition exits)

Chapman: I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:24 AM
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13. I will laugh at this every time you post it. Just so you know.
Are you going to post it everytime someone says nobody expects to change the election results? Hope so. Like you said - we need all the laughs we can get right now!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:30 AM
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14. I will.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 12:31 AM by Patsy Stone
Especially with such a sweet set-up from the post above it!

I love Python.

Enjoy the laugh. We all need to laugh. :)
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:52 AM
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18. ROFLMAO!!!
I just ordered my very first DVD and you know who it was?

The Pythons, of course!

(Got Harry Potter for the kidlet).

Did you hear that Eric Idle is producing a Broadway musical called "Spamalot" based on the Holy Grail?

I HAVE to time my NYC trip to see that baby!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:53 AM
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19. It was next to the theater that we went to
It's starring -- sit down -- Tim Curry. I love Tim Curry.

:)
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:57 AM
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22. I know!!!
Tim Curry even looks sexy in fishnet stockings!!

And, also David Hype Pierce and Hank Azaria!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:08 AM
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26. Come here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x236155

I played Columbia a longtime ago at a local movie theater. I love him in those stockings.

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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:01 AM
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3. is this how AP reporters are supposed to 'report' news?
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 12:02 AM by Faye
" Should a senator and House member formally challenge a state's results, the two chambers must meet separately and consider the objection. That scenario would still ensure Bush's re-election because both bodies are controlled by Republicans."

THANKS ALLEN FRAM, FOR REMINDING US.
:hi:
i should stay away from this report.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:08 AM
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6. They left out the best part
If that does happen, then only the Repugs will be responsible for putting * there. Not the American people -- again. Joy.

:)

Fram's a jerk.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:59 AM
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23. Hmmm... you know what you do when you ASSUME
Mr. AP Reporter?

If you don't, then you need to go back to college and learn the ropes again.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:04 AM
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4. Why not "Small group contests due to historic amount of irregularities"?
And even that is putting it lightly. I am so sick of the media towing the BushCo line. :mad:
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:10 AM
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7. "some Ohio voters" "a handful of "
This writer makes it all look so small.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:23 AM
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12. No kidding.. the way republicans have total control of framing sucks
Do they not understand that these people represent all of us? These brave souls are fighting for fair elections, without which, there will be no change. At least not in the way the people wanted.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:05 AM
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5. Sometimes AP sucks up to the WH, wondering what pay back is for them ??
:kick:

I believe you are on to something Faye.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:13 AM
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8. Just look at who owns 'em. Follow the money. Straight-up right wingers.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 12:17 AM by FreepFryer
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:41 AM
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16. Be good little writers and maybe we'll toss you a bone someday? nt
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:17 AM
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9. Well, why wouldn't the Senators who plan to object announce that?
Surely they wouldn't begrudge the neocons and the MediaFormerlyKnownAsMainstream the heads-up and the priceless opportunity to trash them every minute of every day until the moment the challenge is made? Surely not!

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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:18 AM
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10. Bingo! You just pointed out a valid strategy! You get a lemon drop! :)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:19 AM
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11. Duh
:)
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:32 AM
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15. Just counted over 32 different sites to contact senators to contest.
and I stopped counting at page 15 after doing a Google search out of curiosity. Those do not include most of the major sites because of the way I worded the search so really there are probably many more out there. Even people with private sites and small businesses have links to contact Senators- it's really quite amazing actually. I wonder how many more there are and how many people in total, have actually done this by now. Hundreds of thousands? (Not including those of us who have sent numerous letters again and again). Could be quite a huge number!

Oh My- am I having a momentary flash of hope? Wow-- what a treat- I forgot for a minute what that felt like.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:48 AM
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17. You should
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:55 AM
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21. So much for AP's "handful."
And, nope, they don't get it.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:54 AM
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20. that yahoo rating
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 12:54 AM by Faye
is a victim of a freeper assault :eyes:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:02 AM
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24. Faye...


:)
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:05 AM
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25. we're cuter
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:09 AM
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27. Yes! LOL n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:31 AM
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29. Much cuter ;-) & the freeps are choking on that AP/Yahoo morsel!!
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:22 AM
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28. MSM has no depth at all! When I was a kid, there was a thing called
investigative journalism. It now only exists on the net. Thank you Will Pitt and like kind...
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