Senators don't want to be shot in the head like the Kennedys

[malatesta1137]

They won't contest anything tomorrow. Kennedy, Hillary, Kerry are afraid for their lives and their families'.

Republicans assassinated Wellstone, Carnahan and so many others who got in their way, the writer of Fortunate Son comes to mind, Mr. Hatfield.

They are KILLERS.

Ironic that Bush Sr. was the head of the CIA office in Dallas when JFK was murdered.

[illuminaughty]

1. Even more reason to stand up

Stand up together and expose them down to their bare (skeletons in the closet) bones. It's not like it's news that this is a gang of criminals bent on global domination. How many books/websites are devoted to this? It's just that it has not been mainstream news. It's time someone stood up and told America what the world is screaming, like "excuse me, but we need to try your administration for war crimes and, yes, we have massive evidence."

They need to stand up or they are complicit in the crimes.

[Oversea Visitor]

2. Its only work

if they are not united
They cant kill of everyone
The people will hang them on the trees straight away

Tough theory here but I neither accept or reject it just file up as possible shits.

[OneBlueSky]

3. what's REALLY sad about this whole thing is that . . .

we're scouring the senate trying to find just one who will stand with Conyers . . . when what SHOULD be happening is that ALL Democrats, and not a few Republicans, stand up and be counted . . . this does, after all, involve the very foundation of our democracy . . . that many, many senators won't come forward is distressing . . . that we can't even find one is tragic . . . doesn't bode well for the future of our nation . . . if they won't stand up for something so basic, they're not likely to challenge BushCo on much of anything . . .

but wait . . . they're already doing that . . . Iraq, the Patriot Act, the budget bill, etc. . . so why should we expect anything different on this issue? . . .

if the Democratic party is to survive, it MUST become a real alternative to the right, a true opposition party . . . and that means embracing populism and denouncing corporatism . . . if those in office now aren't willing to do that, they need to be replaced . . .

[genieroze]

27. if the Democratic party is to survive?

Don't worry it won't because DIEbold will come to the rescue and make sure it doesn't. These Senators and Congressmen think their jobs are safe? They better think again. Even in African American communities it isn't because the pukes can always find a few blacks willing to trade their souls. Look at Rice, Powell, Thomas and now Blackwell(who used to be a Democrat). Many of the whites traded their souls long ago.

[GetTheRightVote]

4. There is no way they are such pussies as this, they are elected officials

representing the American People, if they do not do it then get out of the office and let someone in with the balls to do the job period.
They knew going in it was not going to be a pinic so why go down on their jobs.
:kick:

[SueZhope]

17. exactly

then they picked the wrong line of work and should pack up
and get out of there jobs.

They should all just roll over. Who needs them then?

[saracat]

5. People have sacrificed their lives for the vote before. That is what our

soldiers do. That is what our elected officials are supposed to do if necessary. These Senators took an oath to uphold the constitution and to defend this nation. The core principles of our democracy are under attack and they have an obligation to stand up and defend them. End of story. If they didn't want the responsibility ,they shouldn't have taken the job. With responsibility comes risk.It goes with the territory.

[Benhurst]

6. Sacrifice their lives? Hell, they won't even risk sacrificing their

careers!

[roenyc]

7. anthrax in the mail

senators dieing in plane crashes others having to close their office due to "terror threats" and another getting a very strange cancer and dropping dead. OK thats a stretch but hey i watch the X files from day one.

and that guy was Mr. Social Security. so yeah i wouldn't be surprised if these people are afraid.

remember when dean came out swinging in the beginning of election fraud his daughter was in a car accident. of course it could all be coincidence. but damn people around the "family" have terrible luck.

[sunnystarr]

32. The solution if for ALL Dems to stand up tomorrow ...

They can't kill them all.

[whalerider55]

8. then they should...

give back the money and go back to being local and state political hacks, who don't have to swear an oath to preserve and protect the constitution...

whalerider55

[MsConduct]

9. Agreed. n/t

[TheUnspeakable]

10. The Dems are the ones who will get screwed

if none of them stand up. I was thinking about all of this last night and I realized that if no senator stands up tomorrow the entire election fraud will hurt them immensely because they will lose millions of votes next election and the TRUE criminals, the repigs, will walk away unscathed-as usual.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Then they will die as American patriots.

Put your money where your mouth is.

[righteous1]

12. I am sorry but I believe this contention to be

completely ludicrous. Assertions such as this just give the other side the ammunition to call us nut burgers

[Junkdrawer]

13. Yeah. After all, history has shown that despots never employ such tactics

even if it is to control the most powerful military the world has ever seen...

[cali]

16. Do you remember Vince Foster?

Some of your repub counterparts still insist the Clintons offed him.

[Junkdrawer]

26. Now, many thought all the things said against Hitler were exaggerations...

But the invasion of Czechlosvakia and Poland showed just what Hitler was about. The invasion of Iraq was the most naked act of aggression by a Western power since that time. What did Clinton invade?

Oh, and, funny how Rush et. al. accused Clinton of all the things Bush would later do.

[glitch]

35. Now that was just a coincidence, not like they've been planning a coup

for 40+ years or anything.

"Oh, and, funny how Rush et. al. accused Clinton of all the things Bush would later do."

[cali]

14. Indeed. (Hi, righteous)

What next for the conspiracy theorists? Aliens on ice at area 51 re-animated by the evil rove? Zombies for bush?

[malatesta1137]

18. you only believe what's on CNN and Fox right?

by the way, Limbaugh starts at noon.

[cali]

23. Sorry to intrude with reality, bucko

but I'm more of a Harper's, New Yorker and history reading type. I've never even seen CNN or Fox. The MSM plays no part in my thinking.

[malatesta1137]

31. if you knew ANY history

you would know that, for centuries, leaders have employed tactics of assassination of their political opponents. Go read some more, it'll do you good. Especially the US involvement in what happened in Chile in 1973.

[cali]

38. Well, the fact is I am fairly well versed in history and

historiography. I'm quite aware of the dastardly involvement of the CIA in Chile in the early seventies, not to mention the involvement of the U.S. in assassinations in Iran and the former Congo. Let me give you a clue: historians are, as a rule, not big on such conspiracy theories as "republicans killed Wellstone, Carnahan and Kennedy." In fact, most historians aren't too big on conspiracy theories, period.

[righteous1]

24. The typical rebuttal of a weak argument, trying to diminish

the individual rather than debate the issue. This is both intellectually dishonest and generally the a sign of a lazy mind

[malatesta1137]

33. you've done everything BUT debate honestly

go read some history and LEARN that political assassinations have been happening for centuries.

[euler]

36. Vacuous

[glitch]

43. Zombies for Bush is not new - I started that one myself years ago.

You know it's true.

[malatesta1137]

15. if you think people who have just killed

more than 100,000 innocent civilians in Iraq for Bechtel and Halliburton are beyond assassinating their political enemies, you are one nut burger yourself. AND the type of 'progressive' Karl Rove LOVES.

[TheUnspeakable]

19. Malatesta-couldn't agree with you more!

it amazes me that people can accept SOME crimes like lying us into war,100,000 dead Iraqis,20,000 wounded Americans,1400 dead Americans, "allowing" 9/11 to happen,(3,000 dead Americans) etc.
but then they just have to draw the line at political assassination,
or election fraud, or whatever-without doing any research on the subject and just relying on the MSM!!

[righteous1]

25. If you use that skewed line of thinking JFK "killed" many

thousands of VietNamese civilians and American soldiers. Was he capable of murdering his politcal opponents? I think not, that argument is completely specious

[bearfan454]

41. Very well put ! n/t

[mattclearing]

20. Whether or not that is true, I don't know that the senators buy it.

Kerry probably has his suspicions after digging into Iran-Contra.

Hillary should know, having been married to Bill Clinton.

I personally don't see the irony in your last statement. Irony implies that GHWB's presence in Dallas that day was a coincidence.

If the last forty years has taught us anything, it's that democracy hasn't functioned to the American people's advantage since that day, and the Bushes are always present at the scene of the crime.

[Wabbajack]

21. Why Wellstone and Carnahan?

if they were in the buissness of murdering senators they would have gone after Dem senators in states with gop governors after the Jeffords switch. Or would that have been too obvious?

[mattclearing]

22. Wellstone because he truly believed, and spoke eloquently.

Like all great populist leaders before him, he was truly dangerous because he inspired people in a way that Tom Daschle never could.

Carnahan I don't get, really, but he was running against Ashcroft.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

28. There is an excellent video on that, JFKII- The Bush Connection.

It seems that Papa Bush left Dallas that day and flew to Washington DC to meet with J. Edgar Hoover, the director of the FBI. Oswald was supposedly an ex-CIA operative who worked for Hoover.

[anamandujano]

29. extremely nasty defeatist thread

[krrywon]

30. They'd lose

power, influence and their reputations.

[fasttense]

34. People feed pigeons but shot at eagles

[m.standridge]

37. And do you remember how Zell Miller

kept making references to the "safety of his family" during his anti-Kerry speech? It didn't seem timed right to be a reference to Kerry's policies. I've wondered about that, off and on. But I know ZM was pretty conservative...

[Carolab]

39. Well, then, the more the merrier

safety in numbers, you know.

Besides, IT'S THEIR JOB TO OBJECT!!!!!!!!!

[adolfo]

40. Nothing to be afraid of...

They can kill a few leaders but they can't stop the swarm!

[mordarlar]

42. We are AWARE and WE ARE WATCHING