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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:11 PM
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Just called Feingold's off. They're hearing us!

I just got off the phone with Russ Feingold's (D Wisconsin) office
as i was seeking fax numbers.

the nice lady asked if this had to do with "the Ohio thing".
I said you bet and she tld me that most of her cals today were about that!

She also said that all their correspondence goes to DC same day so if you are a Wisconsovite, get phonin, get faxin!

ph 414 276 7282
fx 414 276 7284
DC fax 202 224 2725

:D
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:12 PM
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1. Great!
That is friggin awesome! :bounce: I'm feeling quite bouncy today..
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:12 PM
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2. But does hearing us
mean they are listening to us?
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:13 PM
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3. Thanks for the news!
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darkworkz Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:14 PM
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4. The best thing to fax IMO.
Thanks hootinholler:

Comes from Bush V Gore in Justice Breyer\'s dissent, when speaking as to why the Court should not have heard the case to begin with: (Emphasis mine)

To the contrary, the Twelfth Amendment commits to Congress the authority and responsibility to count electoral votes. A federal statute, the Electoral Count Act, enacted after the close 1876 Hayes-Tilden Presidential election, specifies that, after States have tried to resolve disputes (through “judicial” or other means), Congress is the body primarily authorized to resolve remaining disputes. See Electoral Count Act of 1887, 24 Stat. 373, 3 U.S.C. § 5 6, and 15.

The legislative history of the Act makes clear its intent to commit the power to resolve such disputes to Congress, rather than the courts:

“The two Houses are, by the Constitution, authorized to make the count of electoral votes. They can only count legal votes, and in doing so must determine, from the best evidence to be had, what are legal votes .... The power to determine rests with the two Houses, and there is no other constitutional tribunal.” H. Rep. No. 1638, 49th Cong., 1st Sess., 2 (1886) (report submitted by Rep. Caldwell, Select Committee on the Election of President and Vice-President).

The Member of Congress who introduced the Act added:

“The power to judge of the legality of the votes is a necessary consequent of the power to count. The existence of this power is of absolute necessity to the preservation of the Government. The interests of all the States in their relations to each other in the Federal Union demand that the ultimate tribunal to decide upon the election of President should be a constituent body, in which the States in their federal relationships and the people in their sovereign capacity should be represented.” 18 Cong. Rec. 30 (1886).

The way I read this, there is no requirement of evidence. The only requirement is a compelling enough argument. Once a challengable vote is in fact challenged, each Congressman is Duty Bound by thier oath of office to act in judgement of the acceptability of the electoral votes from that state.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:15 PM
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5. Feingold was the deciding affirming vote for --
-- John Ashcroft.

Maybe he will give us back one and stand up on "the Ohio thing."
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:35 PM
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23. Oh, how can we forget that...
I put in several passionate pleas to him NOT to vote for Ashcroft, as did thousands of others. People were VERY angry with him, and he was explaining himself for months afterwards. On the other hand, he voted against the Patriot Act. In my letter to him this week, I ended it by saying We remember the courageous stand you took against the Patriot Act. The decision you make Thursday will also be long remembered.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:18 PM
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24. Good strategy and just the right tone.
Let's keep our fingers crossed.

I do like Russ Feingold.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:27 PM
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25. Thank you...I tried!
I like him too, but I hope very much he stands tomorrow, because otherwise I am going to start wondering about his convictions.

Two days after the election this year I finally crawled out lf my hole and went out for lunch, and Russ walked into the restaurant with a friend. He ended up coming over to our table and talking to us about the election. It was pretty neat.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:37 PM
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26. Very cool.
I haven't had any encounters like that.

You obviously go to the right places.

And I will keep my fingers crossed for Feingold to stand this time.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:19 PM
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28. We just went to this little Italian place on Monroe St. (Madison)
...used to be Da Cajun Way. It was the right place to be that day :)
Are you in Madison? Boy, if this goes well tomorrow, I imagine there may be a celebration downtown?!?!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:03 PM
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30. No, but I used to live there.
I used to pop in and out of the places on State Street.

Madison is a really good town.
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NickiWitch Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:18 PM
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6. I just got off the phone...
really nice lady! She asked if I was from Wisconsin...I told her, sadly, no, but that my Senator (Boxer!)is most likely going to do it and that I know how cool Russ is and that I was hoping he would stand with her. <Whew!> Sorry...I tend to ramble when I'm excited!

Peace!
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mdb Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:23 PM
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7. It's obvious all are asking to be represented on Jan 6th.
Will they represent us? In the democracy of the United States we elect officials to represent our interests. The world is watching.
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:23 PM
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8. Just got off the phone to Milwaukee office...
VERY polite lady answered the phone, also gave me the phone number for Senator Feingold's Green Bay office (where I'm from)

ph: (920)465-7508

Diggin' the Feingold for President in '08 talk!
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:45 PM
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9. Done, and guess what, the Fax line is busy
so I'll keep trying. I'm from WI and have written him so many times, and worked for him, he may recognize my name.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:46 PM
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10. Do you hear the words that are coming out of my mouth? :-)
Sorry I couldn't help it...
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:50 PM
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11. I've called ALL the Democratic Senators today.... whew!
I've asked each office to have EVERY Democratic Senator stand up with the house Dems. I've told them that we can't have just one or two democrats standing there, flapping in the wind. WE NEED 'EM ALL!! And we need 'em all STANDING!

I've also encouraged them to contest Florida and New Mexico.

:kick::kick::kick:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:53 PM
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12. Wow, great work, sue!!
:thumbsup:
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:12 PM
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14. Thanks, bleever....It's the LEAST I can do, before I join the revolution
It's either going to get done by our representatives in the legislature, or with our own blood.

I thought I'd try the safe way first!

If they fail this time, my life is on the line next time.

GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH!!

I'm just a 5' tall white woman, but I'm bad when I'm mad!

:kick::kick::kick:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:35 PM
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16. Heh heh...they'd BETTER handle it legislatively...
:)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:54 PM
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13. GO WISCONSIN!! Woo-Hoo!
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:18 PM
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15. Me, too
Also called Feingold's DC office. I'm one of his constituents.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:43 PM
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17. On Wisconsin!
I just talked to a very nice woman at Feingold's office and she said she would pass my message on. She also told me that she was getting many calls--as previously noted.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:56 PM
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19. Ditto! Just called. Got the same response. n/t
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:50 PM
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18. On Wisconsin!
On Wisconsin,
On Wisconsin,
Get through on that line!
Run your email, fax, and phone,
Then run them one more time!

On Wisconsin,
On Wisconsin,
LaFollette's watching you.
Phone, fax, and write write write!
So Junior's through.

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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:22 PM
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29. Hey--i like it!
Maybe we could get a marching band accompaniment in downtown Madison tomorrow evening??!?!
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:07 PM
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20. I just called the local office...
The woman who took the call was very pleasant. I made a deal with her: if she'd try hard to persuade the Senator to protest the certification, I would not put her thru the long speech containing the reasons why he should do so. She laughed and thanked me for giving her that break. She didn't ask if I'm from Wisconsin.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:12 PM
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21. Great news. Thank you. Keep it up.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:17 PM
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22. Called him. Thanks n/t
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:55 PM
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27. Lets go Russ!
If Feingold stands up, I might just have to move from Iowa to Wisconsin, so I can call him my Senator.
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