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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:44 PM
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I'm done cheerleading for voterfraud. Plus why would JK want to be Pres.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 01:46 PM by henslee
now, with the Rep. majority in congress and the war a bigger mess than ever? He's no fool.

Clarification: I am for keeping up fraud investigations but just not to flip this election. Let * clean up his own mess. And when cold winters kill fly over seniors and joblessness swells, let them choke on their cowardly piece of shit.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:46 PM
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1. Also, to fight back and win without the popular vote on his side
would make it all the more difficult to work with congress.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:54 PM
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5. Losing the Senate did it
Cleaning up bush*s mess with a hostile Congress? Guaranteed to make him the president more ineffective than Carter.

I think if you count ALL the votes bush*s lead will be more dubious...
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:52 PM
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2. So Kerry's not our hero, big deal. There are no heroes anymore
But * won't be cleaning up any of his messes, he'll just be making them all bigger and more toxic.

So it's on us to clean up this mess.

Same as it ever was.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:54 PM
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3. It's NOT ABOUT KERRY
It's about US. If you DON'T do something about this, we officially HAVE no democracy.

WE MUST PROVE THIS HAPPENED FOR OUR OWN SAKE AND FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR DEMOCRACY. DON'T YOU GET IT?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:05 PM
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9. 50% of DU's energy should be targeted at FIGHTING PAPERLESS BALLOTS.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 02:06 PM by henslee
It's been said before but it is hands down, the most important issue.
It is not glamorous. Furthermore, voterfraud data has never been presented in a FOR DUMMIES way. We need a difinitve website with a virtual tour/images of each machine with flaws, drawbacks, record of disenfranchisement etc. BUT IT CANT BE An UNINTELLIGIBLE PDF WITH TONS OF NUMBERS. We need to know manufacturers and their political affiliations. We need an interactive map of the US with hotlinks indicating voterfraud state by state and what the particulars of that fraud is . All this data has to be in one place -- at one site, all presented in layman's terms. We need "NO BBV" T SHIRTS AND COFFEE MUGS. We have to lick our wounds and shift gears immediately. Otherwise, we are super fucked.

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hinachan Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:01 PM
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11. BLACK FAX protest against black box voting!
I read this at Smirking Chimp, and I think it's a good idea to help protest Ohio's vote-eating machines. Best of all, since it's a weekend, we could slam 'em with a bunch of protest messages, and they'll come back to their office on Monday, SWAMPED with faxes!

Here's the deal:

The Ohio Secretary of State, an African-American no less, needs to be told that we demand that Ohio's votes be counted. We can make this protest a little more meaningful by engaging in some Republican style dirty tricks.

Instead of e-mailing or sending letters demanding that the black box voting must be stopped...send FAXES. As the last page of your fax, send a black piece of paper like construction paper, saying this represents the black (hoodie??) you'll be wearing...the black voters who've been disenfranchised...the black representing the death of our right to vote...till our voting system is no longer held hostage by machines. Not only is this color appropriate, but thousands of people sending a black page will DEVOUR fax toner, and this will cause major inconvenience for them. These faxes won't be so easily ignored!

PLEASE help with this protest!! Address your faxed letters of protest to:

J. Kenneth Blackwell
Ohio Secretary of State
Fax: (614) 544-0649
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:47 PM
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12. Sorry but Blackwell does not give a shit.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:54 PM
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4. It's not just about this election.
It's about democracy as we know it. Or should I say as we knew it?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:56 PM
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6. and if this one passes unchallenged
the senate is stolen in 06 and they have a supermajority and it will be ON.

this is the crossroads. america or fascism. democracy stands in the balance.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:57 PM
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7. Well, work on this stuff no matter what:
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FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:59 PM
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8. I tend to agree that
Kerry would inherit Boohsie's very soiled playpen. Kerry would have problems galore and much frustration.

There is one important thing, and that is the appointing of SCOTUS judges -- a decision that will outlive us all probably.

Also, if we have voting fraud now, and we don't do something about it, then we will have it again and again. We cannot take it lightly.

Something to think about.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 02:07 PM
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10. Exactly. The Supreme Court is why it matters so much. We are f@#ked.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:12 PM
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13. If this election is stole for Kerry,
it also was stolen for the senators and reps running for office. Proving fraud might turn at least the senate for us.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:22 PM
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14. Yeeeeeaaaaarrrrrrrckccckckckckckpt!
I'm with you! Choke on it freepers! I got my potassium iodide!

Gyre
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