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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:22 PM
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You most certainly will see multiple states challenged tomorrow
Simple math tells us that a disqualification of Ohio's electors will not change the outcome. Therefore, you can be assured that Florida and possibly New Mexico will also wind up in the hopper. While Ohio's results are the one best documented and publicized to date, we here at DU also know that there is very strong evidence of fraud in Florida as well. It would of course take a vote to disqualify both to change the outcome. My suspicion is if the Senate is going to raise an objection you will have multiple Senators objecting to the results of several states. Who knows maybe all of the battleground state results will get contested. Hey this could get real interesting.

P.S. I still think the bombshell is coming!
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:32 PM
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1. I'd like to believe that.
But I think it much more likely absolutely fuck-all will happen.

I hope your instincts are better than mine, eh?
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:34 PM
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2. What about California and New York?
Cause that's exactly what would happen if we just tried to challenge all the states.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:42 PM
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3. texas, nevada, colorado, iowa, penn, n carolina
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:46 PM
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4. bingo. Those states where fraud affected the count enough to change...
...the outcome. Those will have focus.

NONE will have focus where evidence, triple-verified, does not exist, because we DO NOT do that kind of thing. Well, not since Joe Kennedy.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:47 PM
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5. That would be something
hmmm
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:47 PM
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6. sigh
we could hope.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:48 PM
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7. There's So Much Fraud
Let's be real. The Popular Vote was also manipulated, so there are quite a few states which should have gone to Kerry. Who knows how many states in the US were really affected.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:48 PM
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8. That's why, in all my calls to Senators, I asked them to
challenge not only Ohio, but Florida and New Mexico and any other state where disenfranchisement occurred.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:54 PM
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9. Documentation of vote machine fraud and suppression in Ohio, Florida, N.Me
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 09:59 PM by berniew1
There is documentation of systematic voter suppression of minorities, dirty tricks, touchscreen machine fraud, and other fraud in Ohio, Florida, and New Mexico.
http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html
http://www.helpamericarecount.org/NewMexicoData/NewMexicoGeneralElection.pdf
http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm Mahoning

And also evidence of touchscreen machine fraud in other states where it didn't affect who won, Pennsylvania(Mercer Co.), Washington(Snohomish Co.), Texas(Travis Co.), Calif(Orange Co)
http://www.flcv.com/mercerco.html
http://www.flcv.com/snohomis.html
http://www.flcv.com/orangets.html

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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:57 PM
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10. good interesting take on that
i hope you are right and tomorrow we shall see.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:03 PM
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11. Its important to document and punish the widespread fraud & malfeasance,
but will they challange the electors in states such as Calif., Texas, Washington, Pennsylvania where there's no evidence the fraud was enough to change the election results?
Or just make a point that there was widespread fraud and suppression, and point out some of the states.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:31 AM
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13. I agree with you. OH was the obvious flag to wave. But, we know...
...the list is long and the facts are getting expanding the more folk are able to investigate and report.....and that's the stuff we have seen posted here and elsewhere.

Its reasonable to suspect that other 'data gathering' efforts have been underway that have not been advertised on the 'internets.'

Peace.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:49 AM
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14. New Mexico used TouchScreens-statewide...this is worse than Ohio
A very uncomplicated, straightforward information of fraud/machine fowlplay

No paper trail. Impossible to recount the voter intent.
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