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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:33 PM
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Remember Nixon landslide - 1972?
Yes, the whole map was red with only Massachusetts and Washington DC going blue for McGovern.

What an enormous victory for Nixon.

Less than two years later, in August of 1974 Nixon resigned the presidency.

He was brought down by two nosy and persistent reporters from the Washington Post who would not give up.

Need I say more?

We have much more than a couple of reporters this time around. We have power that is explosive and effective.

We will not - we cannot give up.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:35 PM
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1. Didn't Nixon have a Democratic Congress?
n/t
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:39 PM
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6. Nixon
Yes, but he resigned when his own party sent a delegation to tell him that there were not enough Republican votes - 35 needed - to avoid the removal from office.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:45 PM
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10. That won't happen
this time.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:43 PM
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8. sure did,
Bush could be caught naked with a dead boy and these fuckers wouldn't even censure him.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:45 PM
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9. Yep, they would blame the "liberal media"!!!
And quite a few morons would repeat that type of shit.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:36 PM
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2. We have strength in numbers
and what we've done is a beautiful thing. :)
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:37 PM
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3. Yes, well...no.
The "Post" did it right that time and then they sold out this time around.

That American media is gone and the "blogs" or forums like this one can't replace them in their role of public service.

Is the perfect scenario for a fascist regime.
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DCdem87 Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:38 PM
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4. Yeah, thats true...
Democrats controlled a lot more back then than they do now. Now repunks control everything! It doesn't matter if we have the reporters if they have the conservative controllers out there invalidating the "liberal media." But I do agree that we cannot give up (even though the Democratic party seems to have given up on us--liberals).
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:38 PM
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5. I totally agree
If no Senators stand up tomorrow, there is still a chance (a good one at that) that Bu$h could be impeached. There is at least enough evidence out there that would sour some Republicans and turn them towards the center and to the Democratic party.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:41 PM
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7. Yes, Nixon actually won that election and was kicked out over fraud.
and the ensuing coverup. So anyone who tells you that you have to prove that Bush-Rove would not have won without the fraud before you can launch an investigation is full of horse s**t. I happen to believe that they wouldnt have won without it, but it makes no difference.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:52 PM
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14. Nixon's Impeachment Resolution Sept 30, 1973 shows the list
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 09:53 PM by EVDebs
of charges ... from http://archive.aclu.org/library/1stpamphlet.html

""Impeachment should be predicated on the following grounds affecting civil liberties:

He and his closest aides have organized and conducted a deliberate assault on civil liberties by authorizing massive invasions of the First Amendment rights of citizens of the United States. On July 23, 1970, he personally approved the "Huston Plan" for domestic political surveillance and espionage by such methods as burglary, wiretapping and eavesdropping, mail covers, and military spying on civilians.1 These methods of political surveillance were employed against dissenters, political opponents, news reporters and government employees.2 He and his aides employed governmental powers to harass and punish critics of his administration regarded by them as "enemies."3 He and his aides interfered with a free press through the use of wiretaps, FBI 4 investigations and threats of criminal prosecutions.4 He secretly recorded conversations in his own office without advising the participants. 5 He and his aides interfered with the right of peaceable-assembly and protest as in the arrests of thousands of persons on May Day, 1971, and on many other occasions.6

He has usurped the war-making powers of Congress as in the bombing of neutral Cambodia, and he deliberately concealed the bombing-from Congress and the people of the United States; and he has announced he would do so again under similar circumstances.7

He established within the White House a personal secret police (the "plumbers"), operating outside the restraints of the law, which engaged in criminal acts including burglaries, warrantless wiretaps, espionage and perjury.8

He and a principal aide offered a high federal post to the presiding judge during the Ellsberg trial, and, for a prolonged period, he withheld from the courts knowledge of the burglary of the office of Dr. Ellsberg's psychiatrist.9

He and his aides interfered with and distorted the administration of justice through such acts as his effort to limit the scope of the FBI investigation of the Watergate break-in.10 He and his aides caused the politically motivated and unjustified prosecutions of dissenters and corrupted the constitutional function of grand juries to make them instruments of political surveillance and harassment. 11

He has perverted and attempted to pervert the operation of various federal agencies including the Department of Justice,12 the National Security Council,13 the Secret Service,14 the State Department,15 the Defense Department16 and the Central Intelligence Agency17 by engaging them in political surveillance and in the falsification of information made available to Congress and the American public.""

Please note that FALSIFICATION OF INFORMATION MADE AVAILIABLE TO CONGRESS... was listed in the ACLU's resolution.

Needless to say, more than just 'fraud'.



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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:47 PM
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11. John Dean recently wrote that Bush is more impeachable than
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 10:02 PM by EVDebs
Nixon for having gotten us into war under false pretexts, lies. This is shown in the Joint Resolution of Congress's litany of reasons which prove to be in error; also it mentions the War Powers Act of 1973, which provided for 'circumstances' that ostensibly had to be truthful when put to the Congress.

""In the three decades since Watergate, this is the first potential scandal I have seen that could make Watergate pale by comparison. <...> To put it bluntly, if Bush has taken Congress and the nation into war based on bogus information, he is cooked. Manipulation or deliberate misuse of national security intelligence data, if proven, could be 'a high crime' under the Constitution's impeachment clause. It would also be a violation of federal criminal law, including the broad federal anti-conspiracy statute, which renders it a felony 'to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose.'"
http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/03/06/17_dean.html

We know where most of the lies originate (Office of Special Plans
http://newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact ) and we are now led to believe that Chalabi himself is an Iranian spy.

How on God's green earth is the Constitution preserved, protected or defended by assisting in the spy network of a foreign power ?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1224916,00.html

Didn't this 'pervert the operation' and misuse national security agencies ? Of course, but who's minding the store ? The taxpayer takes it in the shorts and the grunts take it in the field.
Someone isn't being held accountable.



Don't ask me, ask a Republican...

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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:51 PM
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13. The Chalabi-Iran-Laura Bush connection is huge.
"Iranian spy singlehandedly convinces neo-cons to eliminate their rival, Iraq.

Mullahs pleased, Republicans say freedom in Iraq is more important than just one person."

Dumbasses.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:49 PM
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12. Bingo. Jan 6 is ONLY THE BEGINNING. The Bush 43 admin will become...
...an EMBARASSMENT to the GOP party.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:52 PM
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15. I wrote a few thread ago about the Tecumseh's Curse
that has plaques presidents since 1840. If the vote gets challenge happens and the house gets to select Bush, that means he has been chosen by two different government bodies and NOT by the people. Nice for the history books. I don't think he will last the term.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:56 PM
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16. Burial detail
Know why we bury/burn dead people?

To kill the smell and cover the rottenness.

Don't mean to be graphic but any attempt to stop talking about this will bury the smell and cover forever the putrid outrage that was committed against us.

There is no greater outrage in a democracy than to rob the people of their part in their self-governance.

"The right to vote - without which all other rights are illusory" Justice Hugo Black

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