This is the day that the people hath made,

[rainy]

lets have hope for this mornings proceedings. I see a brand new tomorrow.

[ladjf]

1. You are an optimists. That's a good thing.

However, I predict that what we are going to see today is more cynical political theater and maybe not even much of that, just sort of a thud of silence. The body of politics is in dire need of cleansing.

[rainy]

2. The way I see it is we cannot be so dumb as to allow another election to

be stolen from us. Not the Dems. but us the people. This will not be the end. Today is just the beginning of a process that must change the way we vote. The machines' days are numbered. Their day is nearing an end.

[ladjf]

3. But, the crooks have the keys to the safes. What political

mechanisms are there to reverse policy that is highly successful to the crooks? That's the point. They have the power and will use it to keep it. We aren't going to be able to stop them with blogs. Nothing short of revolution in the streets has a chance to reverse this and that doesn't seem like a good option either. In a nutshell, I think we're scre...ed.

[Peace Patriot]

7. You're chronically depressed, ladjf. Are you taking your vitamins?

It's not up to Congress. And I'd just as soon they keep their filthy hands off election reform. No, we have to do this locally, state by state, county by county, with highly focused grass roots groups. We need

a) paper ballot
b) hand counts

or, at the least

a) a paper receipt for every vote
b) open source code

and 3) undoctored Exit Polls as a check on fraud (as used everywhere else in the world).

And we need to do it ASAP, while we still have the power. (Election law still mostly resides with the state.)

Beware of Kerry and Democratic talk about "national standards," etc. Anything that takes power from the states is BAD. The BushCon can undo any good provisions in a minute, and, having removed the power on election rules from US, they can dictate an even more farcical election system, with zero checks on fraud (such as Absentee Ballots--by which DUer ignatzmouse uncovered the fraud in N. Carolina).

Why do we have the current extremely fraud-prone, insecure, hackable system? Because the Congressional Dems were asleep at the wheel! And we're going to trust them with this now? No way. And they have almost no power. BushCons are thug legislators.

[ladjf]

8. It's not clear to me why you chose to be so insulting in your

comment to me. I never mentioned the word Congress in my post. I was referring the the administration as the ones who had the keys to the safe.

Your election reform ideas are the standard good ideas that everyone is suggesting. However, I was attempting to make the point that it seems unlikely that we,the ones who don't have the power, will find it very difficult to be able to get the changes into the process.

But, regarding your psychoanalysis of my post, I can't say that I'm too thrilled with the way things are going politically. How about you?

[marcologico]

4. Either way we scored a victory--those letters calls & faxes are in the bag

and of course e-mails and web-mails!

The battle has been joined and there's no going back.

[texpatriot2004]

5. And the whole church said, Amen. We the people, united...

it's our country. Let America be America again.

[texpatriot2004]

6. kick it for the people