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Thu Jan-06-05 01:14 PM
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Is anyone else depressed? |
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Don't get me wrong. I'm thrilled with the progress the grassroots and conyers and everyone involved has accomplished since 11/2. Just now that I'm sitting here listening to the votes being tallied I want to cry. I have been putting off being depressed about the election until today because of the hope that somehow it will be overturned because of the widespread fraud. On Nov 3rd I was devastated and then I re-grouped and focused on the investigations.
Now we have what we wanted, a challenge on Jan 6th but it feels empty and hollow. I cringe when I hear about every state that Bush won. "It seems to be regular and in form and authentic" my ass! He will be inaugurated. They got away with stealing it. Once again the wrong man is still in the White House. It really happened and debate or not that's how it will stay.
How do we impeach when we do not control the house? How do we contol the house when they steal elections? I keep thinking that we have to have video of Bush eating a Baptist baby for republicans to turn on him. Despondent? Depressed? Who's with me?
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:16 PM
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I was depressed for a while but not anymore..
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:16 PM
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5. Nope-----life goes on! |
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:16 PM
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It's the first time since Selection II that I have felt any hope. Sorry that you're bummed though. :hug:
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:16 PM
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I am elated! His presidency is a sham! The truth is out! AMEN!
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:17 PM
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8. It's been a roller coaster |
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But no, I'm not depressed today. Today we witness history. It's the day that the Dems found their spine. Things can only get better. We'll be energized and now have leadership in Congress.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:17 PM
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This is a Great Day for America
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:17 PM
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11. No, I am proud of the few |
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brave Senators and Representatives who are standing up for the voting rights of all Americans today. It is a historic day, regardless of whether it changes the 2004 Presidential voting "results" or not.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:17 PM
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This is only the beginning...these guys are going DOWN.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:18 PM
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:18 PM
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I've had waves of the same feelings I had when the returns |
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came in on election night. Mostly nausea.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:18 PM
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This is just the start.
The repugs know they stole it. And very soon they will have to defend the indefensible.
They are in the pot and the fire is just starting
:kick:
We all know bush stole the election. I live in Ohio and their is no way bush won here. Keep hammering with the facts and the truth. BTW a little paper in Florida will drop a feeney bomb ASAP.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:18 PM
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16. My husband can barely keep his eyes open, and I have electoral |
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Tourettes! Every time one of the Pod People open their mouth, I start cursing like a twelve year old. It's been gruelling.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:19 PM
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17. No - the dems (some) have a spine |
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and election reform is not dead!!!!!!!!!!
WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:19 PM
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18. nope, this is huge, pick yourself up and dust off ...carry on, my wayward |
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friend ....it is now a national issue ...voter fraud and the integrity of the voting process in America.....people like you helped get it this far. This was not easy and it is not over ....
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:20 PM
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"I keep thinking that we have to have video of Bush eating a Baptist baby for republicans to turn on him."
No, if there were such a video, the Republican spin machine would insist that the baby deserved it, or that the baby wasn't actually Baptist, or that Bush didn't know it was a Baptist baby, or that Bush didn't eat a Baptist baby at all, but that it was just tricky video editing. And the freepers would believe all those explanations at once.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:21 PM
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20. Sad - Yes. They got away with stealing it. - No |
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They did not get away with stealing it. No matter how it appears Cheney feels or does not feel this IS public humiliation. The probability that investigations into the REAL fraud will continue and will be REVEALED is much higher.
Sad - SHIT YES - we should be watching Kerry's tally rise to 311 and looking forward to the inauguration. I put heart and soul into making a BIG difference in our future by getting Bush out of office. We won and had it stolen. We were victimized. Shock and sadness and anger are to be expected.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:22 PM
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21. YAY!!!! TUBBS SPEAKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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:kick::kick::bounce::kick::kick:
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:22 PM
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22. I understand how you feel... But we need to take the high times |
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there are soo many lows. : )
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:23 PM
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23. I have something for you! |
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I have this playing right now
U2s Beautiful Day
The heart is a bloom Shoots up through the stony ground There's no room No space to rent in this town
You're out of luck And the reason that you had to care The traffic is stuck And you're not moving anywhere
You thought you'd found a friend To take you out of this place Someone you could lend a hand In return for grace
It's a beautiful day Sky falls, you feel like It's a beautiful day Don't let it get away
You're on the road But you've got no destination You're in the mud In the maze of her imagination
You love this town Even if that doesn't ring true You've been all over And it's been all over you
It's a beautiful day Don't let it get away It's a beautiful day
Touch me Take me to that other place Teach me I know I'm not a hopeless case
See the world in green and blue See China right in front of you See the canyons broken by cloud See the tuna fleets clearing the sea out See the Bedouin fires at night See the oil fields at first light And see the bird with a leaf in her mouth After the flood all the colors came out
It was a beautiful day Don't let it get away Beautiful day
Touch me Take me to that other place Reach me I know I'm not a hopeless case
What you don't have you don't need it now What you don't know you can feel it somehow What you don't have you don't need it now Don't need it now Was a beautiful day
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:25 PM
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24. I don't think a video of Bunnypants* committing murder would do it |
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Not once Goebbels v2.0 and the whipped-dog Corproate TV Pravda got through with it.
(and I'd like to think I am exaggerating, but in your hearts you KNOW I'm not)
I don't think anything would do it.
We are too far gone.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:27 PM
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25. Who the hell is this AEI 'Resident Scholar"? |
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:42 PM
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32. I am so proud of Boxer but the rest of the dems have me wondering. |
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Listening to the TV anchors it is a bit depressing. Especially since they keep stressing that the democrats aren't unanonimous about the challenge. Couldn't they even do that for one day? Guess not. Makes me angry.
But Senator Boxer will always be a hero to me. I will support her 100% forever. She has more guts than any of the men in our party. I'm looking forward to see how the democrats vote on this now. Either way, think this is a black eye for bush historically, so that's good.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:29 PM
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27. Only if you really thought the election would be overturned |
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should you be despairing. Many of us knew the election, smelly as it was, would stand. Many of us realize that the fight is not about getting JK in the WH anymore, the fight is about free and fair elections. This is a MAJOR step forward. Can you imagine how you'd feel, how we would ALL feel, if once again all we heard today was crickets chirping? It is positively refreshing that there is debate, discussion and a couple of kick ass Dems who are standing up for what is RIGHT, for once. Make no mistake about it, this is progress.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:29 PM
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28. I keep thinking that we have to have video of Bush eating a Baptist baby |
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That wouldn't stop them either, fundies are retarded and blinded by the right who are wrong.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:30 PM
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29. What depresses me is that we have to be going through this at all |
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...and also listening and watching these men "certify" votes in the states where we know or suspect there was a great deal of fraud, and where Kerry should have won, like Florida, New Mexico, Nevada, et al.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:32 PM
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I am crying for joy!
That this had to happen is depressing, but whatever happens, we have just witnessed a beautiful moment of true democracy. Savor it.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:33 PM
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31. I'm feeling better now |
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You all had some good points. Now that we are listening to the objections it is exciting and encouraging. Once again I will re-group, brush off the disappointment, and fight on for truth. It's all we can do.
Man I love everyone here and every person raising objections. It is satisfying to have it all said. Every syllable is hope.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:48 PM
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33. Torn up, but not depressed. |
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This is really hard to hear.
But dammit, finally *finally* it's out. It's out.
Keep chin up.
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Thu Jan-06-05 01:59 PM
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34. Proud of the Few, Depressed by the many! |
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I share your despair, since the vast majority of the people in office are cowards.
However, I am hopeful that we can use the courage shown by the few to further keep the grass roots alive and get REAL candidates in office in 2 years!
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Thu Jan-06-05 02:16 PM
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38. My sentiments exactly |
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I'm by nature an optimist, but today is depressing to me, because this great stand for democracy won't be in the MSM after tomorrow, so how will those we're trying to reach ever get on board?
I'm thankful, though, that the seeds have been planted. At least this inspiring debate can be brought up again when the overwhelming majority of "undecideds" finally get sick of the * administration's lies and inhuman policies. Then this issue will suddenly become of the utmost importance to them too.
I'm also thankful for our great representatives in Ohio like Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Sherrod Brown (speaking now). Public servants like this truly understand what this country stands for and how to protect it.
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Thu Jan-06-05 02:03 PM
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35. Wrong time to be depressed. Wrong time to bring the rest of us down,sorry. |
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This is JUST the beginning! And should not be framed as otherwise.
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Thu Jan-06-05 02:06 PM
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Jumping out of my skin.
They heard you America!
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Thu Jan-06-05 02:11 PM
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I was, but this is incredibly uplifting. When things get worse and worse, events such as this renew our faith. I was beginning to think our emails, phone calls, and protests meant nothing, but today I was proved wrong. They mean something, and our senators are listening. They represent us, but they can't speak for us. We made our voice heard; now we're going to start.
This is about our democracy. Yes, * is awful. Yes, we want * gone. But this is more important.
We should all give ourselves a big pat on the back for working so hard to highlight this issue.
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Thu Jan-06-05 02:19 PM
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39. Most intelligent people would be depressed. |
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Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 02:20 PM by Carl Brennan
What difference does it make to offer and or support a challenge to something when you premptorily nullify its relevance by saying it isn't going to change anything???????
That is exactly what all of these politicians are saying. They stand up and nearly beg for the Congress to consider the objections while assuring the Repukes and other Bush supporters that it won't effect this election.
Depressed, infuriated, you bet and you oughta be.
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Thu Jan-06-05 02:26 PM
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40. I am. Even the Dems keep saying that Bush won -- well how the hell |
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do they know this, since the fraud hasn't been fully investigated, dammit. Lame ass dems.
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Thu Jan-06-05 02:27 PM
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Forward motion will win in the end. Don't forget the tortoise and the hare!
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:14 PM
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42. Elated - The republican look shrill and out of touch |
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:18 PM
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43. Yes and no. They keep saying not enough to overturn the |
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election. 1. They don't get that all it would have taken is 6 votes per precinct in OH to change the outcome. They siphoned off those in just voter suppression, not even considering machine inssues. Can't these people do math? 2. That is irrelevant. By certifying they are sanctioning blatantly illegal activity and discrimination rather than putting states on notice that this is unacceptable if they want their electors be cerfified. Criminal activity in elections is fine. No consequences except people get up and talk about how we need election reform.
However, some people stood up and did some brave things and they did respond to our requests. We did make a huge difference. That is very rewarding.
The best part was in the pre-briefing when Boxer said she made a mistake not challenging in 2000 because it was about the voters, not about Gore.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:20 PM
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46. yes, "they are sanctioning blatantly illegal activity and discrimination" |
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that is the most egregiously awful thing about what happened today.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:19 PM
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44. Doubleplus Undepressed! |
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:20 PM
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45. I'm somewhat depressed... |
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but I've been that since the election so...it's no big change for me. I'm right now wondering if I should burn my Christmas present, which was book written by one of those few senators who I THOUGHT had guts...
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:23 PM
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47. There's always impeachment... |
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Take heart, as crooked as he is, and his administration, he will probably be impeached. Also, think about it, we can make the next 4 years for him a living hell at every opportunity. Perhaps he'll end as the most embarrassing president we've ever had...we can only hope anyway...so there are still things we can do.
It's certainly depressing, but bailing won't help. IT'll just give the thugs more control. Stand and fight...and consider relocating to Barbara Boxers district. :o)
-the arrogant eventually fall...just remember that.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:24 PM
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The fight has begun and we've got a whole helluva lot of work to do!
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:27 PM
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49. Miracles DO happen!!! I know this to be a fact. |
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How do we know that miracles definitely do happen? Because we're looking at one RIGHT NOW!!!
I'm as happy now as I was when Kerry took Pennsylvania! And I plan to stay that way!!!
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