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Fri Nov-05-04 07:16 PM
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Is there ANYONE who thinks it should be Hillary 08? Check in here. |
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I vote no way in hell. And I'm a big fan of Hillary
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:17 PM
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1. I totally agree with you about not having |
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hillary and I am quite fond of her myself but I don't think she stands a chance and I don't think we can afford to pick anyone but a certain winner.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:17 PM
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2. Love Hillary, but I agree. No Hillary. |
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:18 PM
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Great Americans but not alot of national likeness. History will be kinder to them as Senetors
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:18 PM
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the wingers would have a field day. We wouldn't be able to stand the crap. I love her too....she'd be a great president...but!
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:18 PM
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Nope. But the RW pundits are pushing it like hell. Why? Because they think Hillary will be a good excuse to use when they try to steal it again in 2008.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:18 PM
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6. If it were Hillary in 08, it would be proof our leadership sucks... |
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...as if we need anymore.
I like Hillary a lot, but I think she has too much baggage.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:18 PM
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7. I don't understand the |
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whole bi-polar thing here about Hillary.
The same people who want to stop accommodating Republicans hate Hillary because "she's too polarizing".
She's the most admired woman in America. While her negatives are high, so are her positives. Her, AND her husband, are adored by the Democratic base.
Yes, the far right hates her. Good. I want a candidate they hate.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:22 PM
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16. Your last sentence is so right on! n/t |
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Sat Nov-06-04 12:12 AM
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40. It's not about accommodating Republicans |
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No one here is saying we give up the Democratic platform. It's about electability. Running a strong, outspoken woman---people who "vote the man, not the party" are not going to vote for such a woman. Women who make "nice-nice" are still the feminine ideal in this f*-up culture...IMO.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:18 PM
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Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 07:20 PM by lancdem
But she won't run if she knows she can't win, so I wouldn't worry about it.
BTW, Josh Marshall has thought for some time she wouldn't run, interestingly.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:19 PM
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:19 PM
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10. She may as well concede now |
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Not that I don't think she would be a great President just that there's no way in hell Americas first Female President is going to be Hillary Rove and the rethugs will make sure of it.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:20 PM
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11. Only if she learns to lead now - ie the vote fraud and BBV |
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She seems a tad quiet, but I could be wrong (I can only read so many web sites a day...)
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:20 PM
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12. it depends on how she responds right now |
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NOW is when we need them. those democratic supposed leaders.
they get a good salary to represent us. now REPRESENT OR GET OFF THE POT.
my man was dean. i worked hard for that man. we lost. ok. i supported kerry because in our system you take the best you can and i took it.
right now. i am dissapointed. i dont mind losing but im a fighter and this is the most important fight of our lives, im watching to see who joins us.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:21 PM
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It's like Arianna Huffington said in her last column, we need someone who will be a BOLD OPPOSITION to what the Republicans are offering. No more trying to pander to the South and the religious psychos - being RepublicanLite is NOT going to chip away at that support! We need someone who can REAWAKEN America's deep liberal roots! We already tried moderate, centrist candidates. We can't let them design the playing field for us!
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:27 PM
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19. I agree with that to some extent, but I don't think Hillary is the woman |
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to do it; not because she's not capable and brilliant and will have the qualifications, but because of the baggage, unfortunately, and the perception sheeple still have of her as the anti-Mom, anti-Husband Feminazi and all that bullshit. It sucks but it's real. It's almost the same way I feel about Kucinich: agree with his policies and principles almost totally, but I fear he doesn't stand a chance due to superficial meaningless things, but that will make the media once again marginalize him and it just won't happen.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:22 PM
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we need a candidate that is from Alabama and drives NASCAR! Haven't you been watching the media -- liberals from New England are unelectable! ... can't be French, read the NYT or be UN sissy either... maybe we can find a preacherman who also served in the Marines! oh fuck, I give up... let's just run with someone with... good ideas. What, that doesn't work?
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Sat Nov-06-04 12:15 AM
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:23 PM
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17. 100% with you. I love her, would vote for her in a heartbeat, but I agree |
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we need a proven winner. And we need media that are not going to totally disenfranchise anyone who does not fit the usual mold, pretty much from the start.
Which means that women, gays, blacks, hispanics, asians, native americans, atheists, people with funny names, vegans, environmentalists, etc. need not apply.
No. No way. Too much baggage, too many people still despise her and the Big Dog; I don't know if she'll be able to run for another 12-16 years, if then. Even though SHE didn't have the affair(s), they hate her anyway. Fuckin' knee-jerk reactionary moralistic Pharisees.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:24 PM
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and I don't want her to run. On the eve of the terrible bloodbath about to take place in Fallujah, anyone who voted for IWR deserves more blame than praise.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:27 PM
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20. Love her, but not as President. nt |
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:32 PM
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21. No. And I don't love her. |
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:33 PM
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22. Only in Rush's wet dreams. |
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:44 PM
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24. America's too intellectually immature to elect a woman president |
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:37 PM
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23. Doesn't matter who runs |
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Even more states will be then voting on electronic machines in 2008 with no paper trail, and this includes NY. Guess what state's gonna vote red in 2008? Afterwards the media will fall all over themselves pontificating on the continuing slide of the states to the right. Election fraud? That's just a consipiracy theory. Hoooie.
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:52 PM
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25. Hillary/Obama or Hillary/Dean |
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Fri Nov-05-04 07:58 PM
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26. No Hillary. Like her, too, but too polarizing. |
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:02 PM
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Not her. She is completely unelectable, utterly uninspiring and to say that she rubs me the wrong way is a huge understatement.
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:02 PM
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28. Hillary is my senator, and I think she's terrific, but she'd never win. |
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Perhaps she'd be great in a cabinet post in a Democratic administration, though.
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:17 PM
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29. Shes in no position to run, nor could she win |
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The nation isnt ready yet for a woman president *sigh and in 08 we need someone strong, respected in business and world issues, someone who isnt afraid of putting on the "shit kickers" when it starts getting deep. We must think long and hard and look at the picture as a whole, seek out the pukes weaknesses and go after them. But there will be a time when we are ready for a woman president, and who ever she is I hope she takes the world by the gonads and whips it into shape. :-) Blessings ~~Celtic
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Fri Nov-05-04 08:45 PM
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She is a lightning rod. Most Repukes in NY hate her with a passion. They can't figure out how she beat pretty boy Rick Lazio. They are still crying over that loss.
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:06 PM
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31. She's an important Senator and will be a strong voice for a long time |
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I don't think the Presidency should be the focus of all our hopes. Of even more concern to me than losing the Presidency in this past election is the fact that the Democratic Party is losing more and more power in both Houses of Congress. What good is having one liberal figure in the Presidency when the rest of the government shifts farther and farther to the right? We need Hillary to remain a very strong Senator and a leading voice for the progressive agenda. Of more importance to me is the election in 2006. We need to stop the Republican momentum now, in its tracks. For that, we need to get out our message and rally our base (which is even larger than the Republican base, but harder to motivate).
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:42 PM
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Hillary has become way too hawkish and conservative-- HELL no.
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:45 PM
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She'll be seen as the decadent wife of a decadent Democrat. Think the south will embrace her? HAH. And why talk about that NOW?
For God's sake, get on the fraud train. It's our DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO GET OUR VOTES COUNTED PROPERLY.
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Fri Nov-05-04 09:51 PM
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35. STOP THIS 08 STUFF! THAT';S 4 YEARS AWAY! |
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Fri Nov-05-04 10:13 PM
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36. NO, no Hillary. But not to worry, I am sure |
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she won't make it out of the primaries. At least I don't think so. But the media is already annointing her. The other side is abosolutely gleeful at the prospect. We can't fall for this trap.
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Fri Nov-05-04 10:16 PM
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37. I love Senator Hillary but not for President. Not in 2008. |
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Vice President would sound nice though. Yeah, I'd go for that.
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Sat Nov-06-04 12:07 AM
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39. I agree---Amerika is not evolved enough (big understatement!) |
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I do think Amerika would possibly vote for a woman in '08, but ONLY a republican and one who acts and looks like Laura Bush---smiles while she's putting the knife to you.
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Sat Nov-06-04 12:14 AM
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41. Is there anyone here who thinks there's not gonna be an "'08?" n/t |
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Sat Nov-06-04 12:21 AM
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43. Love Hillary.. absolutely. NO for her running. |
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She's far too polarizing a figure.
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