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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:02 PM
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Wyden of Oregon demands paper trail for every single vote
hundreds of thousands of Americans who believe they have been disenfranchised should not have their concerns shoved under the rug
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:06 PM
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1. A paper trail means NOTHING without REGULAR random checks of
paper vs. computer totals. A paper trail means NOTHING if a count of a random sample of precincts is only done in a close election.

(I hope this makes sense--I am not a statistician.)
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:02 PM
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2. Yep, you are right. But at least he brought it up. paper trail is minimum
requirement.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:03 PM
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3. Yes, every election should be audited by hand ....
in a timely mannor. say....3%
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harmonyguy Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:17 PM
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4. Paper trail means nothing - PERIOD.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 04:18 PM by harmonyguy
Be careful what you ask for - you might just get a paper trail.

A paper trail means didly-squat. When there's a difference between the machine used to vote and the trail, someone will want to argue about which one is right.

A voter-verified paper ballot, on the other hand, is tangible, and is already well-established in law as being countable.

I'd rather have my paper-ballot count, than have my paper trail count.

And count'em by hand - it really doesn't take that long. Canadian federal elections are paper ballots - hand counted, and we have the results in a couple of hours.

HG
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