It is about the fact that Bush lost. Our guys don't get it.s

[genius]

Pelosi needs to realize that the real issue is that the fraud made the winner the loser.

[gumby]

1. but, but, but, but

Then the Dems might be seen as sore loosers, whiners, conspiracy theorists, wackos or any number of right-wing monikers.

[TornadoTN]

2. Exactly

Thats the problem with our side, we are too worried on how the right-wing will portray us instead of shaping that portrayal ourselves. Case in point, John Kerry. I like the guy, I supported him with my time and money, but he was weak and allowed the right-wing to frame him. By the time he realized it, it was too late no matter what he did.

[txindy]

3. People do realize it

But we'll never get the votes in Congress to get a formal investigation started if we scream, "Fraud" now. We have to look into the "irregularities" first only to suddenly 'discover' that it was truly fraud. THEN we can show that Junior lost. You can't submit evidence to a committee that doesn't exist. We need the votes today to get that committee and that investigation. Confronting "irregularities," an issue that affects both sides, is the only way to do that.

Our guys get it. Completely. Some people here sure don't.