Please list the Republican EXCUSES for ignoring voter fraud here.

[Lex]

1. There are more important things to do (Rep. Candice Miller).

2. Bush is going to be President anyway (J. Duh Hayworth).

[euler]

1. 3. There are only stories from individuals...

...that may, or may not be, fraud.

[iconoclastNYC]

2. 4. This is just sour grapes

[Patsy Stone]

3. 5. Just loonies and conspiracies -- and Michael Moore. n/t

[Lex]

4. 5. It undermines the process to point out the fraud.

[Patsy Stone]

5. 6. Get over it.

[mousie]

49. "Move on already" or "Let's get back to business"

[TornadoTN]

6. Hurting The Soldiers

Turner just had the audacity to say that by doing this, the Democrats are "hurting the soldiers on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan who are working to ensure democracy".

Now its back to the "Why do you hate America?" or "With Us or Against Us"

[booksenkatz]

7. It would interrupt the Bush Dynasty.

[DireStrike]

8. 7. Crying Wolf

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. Major newspapers said get over it

they are too stupid to come up with their own words, they are just quoting editorials form newspapers.

[quiet.american]

10. Voter fraud is a partisan issue. n/t

[tsuki]

58. "bitter and partisan" n/t

[Lex]

11. 11. We should talk about it at some other (unknown) time.

[Lex]

12. 12. There is NO evidence WHATSOEVER of fraud.

So says Rep. Dreier of CA.

[elaineb]

13. Great thread! Let their words FOREVER convict them.

The words of the traitors who are betraying our country can live forever right here on DU.

[Lex]

14. 13. Elections are always flawed (so who cares about fraud?)

Rep. David Drier

[AirAmFan]

70. "No election is perfect"--numerous Rethuglicans

[nashville_brook]

15. what makes our system great

is accepting (without question) this election...


objections kim the hope of democracy -- Drier

[Beth in VT]

16. It's a front for Dems lack of ideas.(Pryce?)

[Beth in VT]

17. It's partisan politics (can't remember who said)

[me b zola]

63. uh, they all did n/t

[Generator]

18. Winning is all that matters

These people have no concscience. And history is recording this.

[Lex]

19. 18. George Bush is too stupid to have coordinated the fraud.

Repuke from VA--Thelma Drake.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

67. She's, unfortunately, the repug who beat my cousin, David Ashe, in

the election. She's an ass.

[nashville_brook]

20. irony -- that people who say the chimp is dumb

also say he was genius enough to pull off stealing the elelction -- thelma drake, R. VA

[Lex]

21. 19. John Kerry said Bush won so just accept the fraud.

[sojourner]

22. Makes the US look bad to fledgling democracies elsewhere

and give encouragement to our enemies

[sojourner]

23. ooooooops...edited to move comment

[Lex]

24. Yes---the old standby "Sweep it Under the Rug" excuse.

It looks bad, so let's ignore it. (Dysfunctional by definition.)

[sojourner]

25. MSM didn't say anything bad happened...so

of course nothing bad happened! Move along, nothing to see here.

[Lex]

26. 22. It's embarassing to me personally (from Rep. Jindal).

[Beth in VT]

27. We're "rehashing" a matter that was "settled long ago"

and American people want Congress focussing on important problems facing the nation (paraphrasing) - Scott McClellan

[nashville_brook]

28. bobby jindal, R, LA

i'm glad my daughter and my father are not here to see this debate.

what kind of message are we sending, when we say if you lose an election you can go to ccourt.

this dishonors our tradition

wrong place wrong time

[FreepFryer]

62. "i'm glad my daughter and my father are not here to see this debate." - he

should be.

[nashville_brook]

29. Patrick Tiberi R, OH

all editorial boards in ohio say what we are doing is wrong (band of conspiracy theorists)

[Lex]

30. Yes, Mainstream Media must be obeyed now by the Repukes.

How ironic is that?

[soup]

31. publicity stunt

Hayworth(r) Arizona

[wildflower]

32. The newspapers said so...

...according to the two Republicans I heard speak in the Senate debate; they basically quoted from newspaper editorials to prove their case.

[Rhiannon12866]

We need to set an example for the people of Iraq

So they will know what it's like to have a Democracy.

[Rhiannon12866]

33. We need to set an example for the people of Iraq

So they will know what it's like to have a Democracy.

[Rhiannon12866]

34. They should all be as gracious in defeat as John Kerry. n/t

[Webster Green]

35. Emboldens the terrorists....

WTF?!:shrug:

[Generator]

39. That's a direct one from the Frank Lutz propaganda manifesto

Rule number 1:

Connect everything to 9/11.

[Lex]

44. Yes, of course, voter fraud should be covered up to make us safer.

.
Wow. Talk about twisted 'logic.'

Luntz is such a punk.

[bunny planet]

55. That was Drier. Right up there with Cheney's 'a vote for John Kerry is a

vote for the terrorists'(paraphrasing) remark. Disgusting.

[Rhiannon12866]

36. No election is ever perfect. n/t

[katinmn]

37. this is not the time

[mousie]

38. If we really cared, we'd be counting ALL the states!

[mousie]

41. Just a plot to undermine bush's credibility as Prez

[Rhiannon12866]

40. We should be looking ahead, not behind us. n/t

[genieroze]

54. Maybe if the pukes would stop telling us to bend over maybe we can

stop having to look behind us.

[Rhiannon12866]

66. Good point. They sure did that, today, didn't they?!

It was as if every last one of them was reading from the exact same script.:grr:

[mycatforpresident]

42. It's interfering with our healing. Right.

As if w/o the debate, we'd all be hugging our Repug neighbor.

:puke:

[Raksha]

69. I get so sick of all that crap about "healing."

How are you supposed to heal when you've still got the the friggin' INFECTION???

[genieroze]

73. Healing? Thank you sir may I have another as we turn the other cheek

and get slugged on the other side. I'm sorry I'm getting sick of being abused. I feel like a battered wife and my husband has never hit me.

[mycatforpresident]

84. Exactly, Raksha and Genie

My sentiments EXACTLY.

[Rhiannon12866]

43. We are using this to "undermine the Constitution." DeLay

[genieroze]

86. They beat us to the punch 4 years ago. eom

[yardwork]

45. You guys are not allowed to question us

(I made that one up but I think it's what all the Republicans are really saying.)

[me b zola]

64. Thanks for your "made-up" response

Because that's what I really hear them saying!

[DearAbby]

46. GOP Excuses....Got the morning paper? What a joke...They are Stepford GOPs

Can't make an argument?... read an editorial "get over it"

They also proved to the country that the individual right for you vote is not important to them. It is on record.

It's a great day to be Democrat. Stand proud

[Jo March]

47. I am standing proud and will list all of these "excuses"

on my site tonight.

We know who the enemies are. They will be easy to target.

[roenyc]

48. cause its from the X files waing (thats texas for wing) nt Delay.

[bunny planet]

50. I think Delay said ' They are entering into X-Files territory.' or

something equally insulting.

[Cervello]

51. And Bunch of Editorials

Said there was none...so we know it must be true!

[bunny planet]

52. Can't remember who, but one of them said 'This debate is undermining the

Constitution' However, he neglected to point out that the procedure for the debate was outlined in ...............the CONSTITUTION.

[FreepFryer]

53. "What about Democrat fraud"

[genieroze]

57. My point to that is if they think that there was fraud by the Democrats

then why didn't they stand up and object to the Kerry votes for that state? Because they don't care about this republic and they sure as heck don't care about democracy or people voting.

[FreepFryer]

61. Exactly! You identified a fragile frame. You get a pack of Doo Dads.

[Mister Ed]

56. "You're wasting tax dollars!" Like neocons care about wasting tax $'s nt

[me b zola]

65. Yeah, that's less $$ for their pockets

n/t

[tsuki]

59. Drier - One citizen, One vote, "aiding the terrorists."

[LiberalCompassionate]

60. "Frivilous" n/t

[bush_is_wacko]

68. This is a debate for "regular business hours"

"Another place another time" Yeah, right where the American citizens can't see you say they should not be allowed to vote! I am sickened by these people.

[AirAmFan]

71. "A few isolated incidents", ie mainly African-Americans were disfranchised,

practically nobody in our white Christian suburban Rethughlican base.

[Georgia_Dem]

74. Tom Delay:

"It's all a part of Democrat(ic) obstruction and whining."

Maybe you shoulda told that to Newt Gingrich, Tommy boy.

[AlwaysDemocrat]

72. Crime (not victim less) against American Democracy (Delay)

Direct attack to undermine American Democracy...Dems. cry fraud after every election. Crying wolf - destructive theory of politics, dangerous precedent, Dem's hurting themselves and rank and file Dem's,
beneath us and the people "they" serve. Get back to the real business of the people.

....how ironic that he launches one of the most vicious attacks...

[John Q. Citizen]

77. Am I the victim or the crime?

Delay is outraged that any "uber ones" would dare challenge the staus quo.

He had to move to stomp it out as quick as possible.

[melwoods]

75. Roy Blunt (thug) MO.

This is a state issue- not a fed. issue.
This (terrible objection; debate) is casting DOUBT on the process;
people must have confidence in the process.-That last one was one of my faves!:)

[Time for change]

76. A C-SPAN caller who said he was an election judge from OH

He presented the scholarly argument that there were no long lines in his precinct. Then, as if in response to my uncontrollable cursing, the C-SPAN commentator asked him (as sweetly as possible) if he thought it was nevertheless possible that some other precincts could have had different experiences. He said, "Well, I don't really think so, I've talked to a number of people and they all had the same experience that I did".

Are these people real?

[FreepFryer]

78. "wide-eyed conspiracy theorists" - I think I counted 6 times.

[senegal1]

79. Many of these would make beautiful flyers full of irony...

[melwoods]

80. Jack Kingston (thug)FLA.

This dickwad said something to the effect "the only thing more unbelievable than exit polls are Godzilla movies...":)

[drm604]

81. "To believe that this election was won by fraud

you would have to believe that all 50 Secretaries of State are wrong."

It wasn't during the "debates". It was during what I think was a house session that was held before the electoral votes were counted. I had C-Span on while I was getting ready to leave for work and I was mostly listening rather than watching. Various members were making statements about different things and some were making remarks about the challenge to the votes that they knew was coming. I heard one "gentleman" make the above remark (or something close to it) but I don't know who it was. I nearly choked on my orange juice. All I could think was "For a congressman, he has some pretty poor math skills."

[Zan_of_Texas]

82. more

"Stop beating a dead horse." {Hmm, I don't see any dead horses. Just horses' asses.}

To those investigating and contesting in Ohio: "Pack your bags and go home." (as if they are from elsewhere -- hello, they LIVE there for the most part)

"We were all elected. We're living proof the system works." They actually said something close to that. "If we question the process, we question our own legitimacy." {Hmmm, getting close to the truth, aren't we.}

"Anything that was done to cause a fraudulent election would have to have been done by the bipartisan boards of both Republicans and Democrats, so that means no fraud could have happened."

"Kerry conceded, and Bush got a mandate, and we're too busy anyway. We need to get on with our work."

[anaxarchos]

83. The Democrats are pandering to the Michael Moore wing of their party.

n/t

[Cheswick2.0]

85. How about first we list DEMOCRATS excuses for ignoring vote fraud?

I am a democrat. I vote for democrats. I am not voting Green next time (though I think we should start challenging democrats with more progressive/motivated democrats in the primaries). But I would like to know what the democrats excuse is for ignoring the voting rights of valuable constituents.

[femme.democratique]

87. "How dare Democrats besmirch the HARD WORK of all elections officials?"

[magellan]

88. I loved this one

"The Ohio election was clean and fair. Three Ohio newspapers -- two of which endorsed Kerry -- said so." - Senator Voinovich, R-OH

(Not verbatim but that was his general self-deluded gist)

[melwoods]

89. More Bugsy Delay gems....

"This is just NOISE-No one is served by this; There WAS NO disenfranchisement in 2004, OR 2000, for that matter!"--Ya gotta love the Hammer!:puke: