ONLY TWO? ONLY TWO? THAT'S NO VICTORY. THAT'S DEJA VU.

[TruthIsAll]

All I wanted to see were the numbers.
ALL the Dems, not just TWO.

They let us down.
It didn't happen.

So many words.
So few votes.

Let's not delude ourselves.
We are all disappointed.

Does that mean we give up?
Of course not.

But let's not delude ourselves.
The Reality finally hit home today.

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. I disagree

this has never happened before, at least not in my lifetime.

[ClarkUSA]

7. since 1887, to be exact -- and the issue is that we DID have one...

which was all that was needed to address election reform .

The victory is that we forced this debate in Congress. Note that the Repukes were
squirming.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

2. Actually two: Levin joined in

:-)

[madison2000]

4. Who is Levin? From where?

[noamnety]

6. Levin (MI) seems to have unjoined in

There seems to have been an aye changed to a nay from him, near as I can tell.

[Snivi Yllom]

15. actualy Levin joined out, it was 1-74 in the Senate

he misvoted AYE originally

[Freddie Stubbs]

18. Perhaps he needed a paper trail

:shrug:

[righteous1]

17. He changed his vote, believe it was 74-1

[KittyWampus]

3. What Planet Are You People From? Totally Useless To The Cause Of

Electoral Reform and clueless when it comes to reframing the debate.

[euler]

12. Or, just unqualified cluelessnes

[andino]

5. its 2 more than in 2000

At this rate we should have them in 100 years

[ClarkUSA]

9. There is no sense of strategic planning among some here at DU...

too bad. Go lash out and moan, there are some of us who see the forest for the trees.

[glitch]

8. Agreed. Lip service is worse than no fight at all.

Just trying to avoid another f911 embarassing scene. Disgusting.
But, you're right. Any opportunity to get a clearer idea of who our enemies are is a good thing.
And no, not going to stop voting or vote Green. Am going to work for alternatives in the Democratic Primaries.
Gotta be some real fighters to vote for. I say we start looking NOW.

[48pan]

10. Sorry... Back to One... Levin unvoted. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. You thought it was going to be overturned?

Com'on, wake up and smell the coffee... they DISCUSSED the issue... that is YOUR VICTORY... this is a begining, not an end

[Child_Of_Isis]

13. 2 women.

People need to take notice.

Edited: 2 women objected. I missed the vote entirely and am looking for it now.

[bufftiger]

14. Speak for yourself..we are NOT ALL disappointed..

Reality of what? That we have some representatives and senators with consciences? That they respond to our phone calls?
Just because they didn't cite your statistical analyses and push to overturn the whole thing doesn't make this an empty exercise...
Look, the republicans are pissed and they're being painted as complete ignoramuses..
This is a HUGE opening for us..

[bunny planet]

20. Correct, the Republicans were pissed, they looked like the sore losers,

and the racists they are. We are just beginning to fight back. NGU

[No Exit]

16. I am NOT disappointed. This is ONLY THE BEGINNING!

[shraby]

19. If you noticed today, the Dems framed the

debate on their terms. The pugs had a lot of bluster and inane statements but the Dems were in charge. They had a message, and stuck to it speaker after speaker.

The pugs had a lot to say about having better things to do with their time (than debating election reform?), Michael Moore, newspaper articles, tried to bash Kerry but Kerry was in Iraq. I also heard something about sports and they tried to say that long lines were nothing to get upset about.

It was like listening to a debate about two separate things..really weird to hear. I would imagine many people tuning in were thinking the same thing, and the Ohio people were hearing that their sojourn in the cold rain on Nov. 2 was nothing, just some people complaining about a little inconvenience. Bet that made their day.