Republicans WANTED Democrats To Do This Today

[KittyWampus]

A Repost of a comment by JI7:

Republicans wanted Democrats to do this today

but only if the dems went up ranting about how we won and Bush lost and other crap that we could never fully prove and that republicans can use like they did with the few clips from the wellstone memorial against us.

but instead what they got was democrats in reasonable passionate patriotic voices calling for voting reform so out system can be as fair as possible for all. that it's not about party but about america.

while the republicans on the other hand are the ones who come off as paranoid hateful assholes.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

1. exactly n/t

[sabra]

2. Good point!

[FreepFryer]

3. Correct! You pointed out a judo move, flipping a frame. You get a lollipop

[KurtNYC]

4. Yes - their pre-written bullshit sure sounded that way

[KittyWampus]

5. Really, Mike Moore, Terrorism, Sour Grapes vs. Election Reform

no contest.

[spooked911]

6. Yes. I just wish more Dems had challenged.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. The rebublicans came across as being ill prepared...

for the points that were actually brought up. I loved it.

[johnnie]

8. They probably STILL don't get it

It will take them a few weeks to figure out that this wasn't about sour grapes and it was about democracy (something they don't quite understand yet).

[mattclearing]

9. Yep. They are sore winners, and don't give a shit about long lines.

eom

[mirandapriestly]

10. I think you are right

the repugs came back at them with both barrels and it looked really silly because they were obviously expecting dems to say Bush was illegitimate, etc...but instead the repugs looked like they were coming out against fair voting practices and racial, economic equality for voters. heh heh heh heh

[klebean]

11. just what Conyers pointed out in press conference...

this is a day to remember.

[rodeodance]

12. yeah, I heard Conyers say that. He can rest well tonight. He deserves

a good rest!!

[Casablanca]

13. No, Repubs really wanted Dems to not waste time contesting the vote.

It comes down to the fact that there was election fraud, there is mountains of evidence supporting the allegations, and either you vote according to that evidence (and not political expediency) or not.

Remember that many Republicans pretended to champion electoral reform in both the Bush vs. Gore decision and in the passage of HAVA I. It all ended up making our election process even more unaccountable, and all of the Dem political strategizing just ended up helping that happen.

The Dems need to stop being politically expedient and start fighting in a coordinated manner. And Dem supporters need to stop rationalizing Dem political expediency.

[KittyWampus]

14. HAVA Was Deeply Flawed BUT It's Why Provisional Ballots Even Exist

[KittyWampus]

15. Kick, For All The Drama Queens.

[Generic Other]

16. I guess I must be one of the drama queens

They did speak noble words. I'm only disappointed by their actions, or lack of them.

[KittyWampus]

18. Well, For Being Honest I Give You A Crown

:)

and a hug

:hug:

[Pacifist Patriot]

17. This is what I think the democrats were counting on and

really explains Kerry's letter to me. I expound on that here...http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x257730

[AmerDem]

19. You know we did good and touch a nerve

because the repuke leadership weren't laughing. They were angry and pissed. Pissed that a huge discussion went on about the election fraud that has consumed our country. The last thing they want if for our message to get out. This shows in how the MSM works hand in glove with this administration. I know today set the stage for major arm twisting to get the repukes to start hearings and discussion. When that starts we are almost at the finish line and they in turn are finished!

[KittyWampus]

21. Clean Elections Are The Mother Of All Wedge Issues

[corbett]

20. Elected Brats!

Solid analysis! I'm just waiting for Kerry to drop the other shoe. I'm betting that he hatches his plan just as soon as he's stateside again.

[FreepFryer]

22. EXACTLY. We won the framing game (today). Expect us all to do much more!

[justiceischeap]

23. It's like the argument I use with folks

When I tell them I'm vegan and they rail on me about... "So what I hear you saying is you have a problem with me being compassionate to all living beings." You really can't come off sounding good with a response to that question (IMO)

The Repugs did the same thing today. The Dems got up and said even if 1 person is disenfranchised that is one too many and something needs to be done. The response, we don't want true democracy. They couldn't say anything that made them look good unless that too objected.