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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:53 AM
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Another site helping to prove the fraud
VOTING AND POLITICS - articles and information

Other voting news Experts Detailed Overview Legal Reports of Fraud & Irregularities Technical Polls Company Info

NEWS - Votes Downloaded to AP - Confirmation that the Association Press gets direct feed from vote tabulating computers - read Christopher Bollyn's article.

... And help Bev Harris prove vote fraud - http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

Folks: If you suspect the election results in your area do not ring true, here's one thing you can do. Pick a suspicious precinct, then get the list of those who voted (from the county) and go door-to-door asking for people (particularly Democrats) who they voted for. It's a long shot, but it's one way to show that the machines may be been rigged. Incredibly, the Kerry Campaign did not make the Republican control of the voting machine industry an issue. Instead, they seemed in an undue hurry to concede the election despite widespread warnings that the machines would do considerable mischief. Check out websites below where interesting statistical analysis (some still in the development stage) indicates another stolen election. With corporations counting our votes, we now fit the definition of a fascist state. Lynn

http://www.invisibleida.com/New_Hampshire.htm
http://www.stolenelection2004.com/Florida.htm / http://ustogether.org/election04/ (Dopp's WebPages - graphs & analysis)
http://onlinejournal.com/evoting/110504Madsen/110504madsen.html (a snapshot of results across the country)
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php
http://www.stolenelection2004.com (compilation)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x21834
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-38.htm (great article with links)

http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingSecurity.htm
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:57 AM
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1. This is the one site that needs confirming:
Link to Florida numbers here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2613138

Someone needs to confirm the votes listed in the Florida op-scan counties listed in that link.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:02 AM
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2. Why Not What the hell is going on.
the Kerry Campaign did not make the Republican control of the voting machine industry an issue

Is there anything more important to a Democracy than one person one vote

They push Edwards out on Election night to Restate the PROMISE that Every vote matters & Every Vote will be counted.

Then less than 12 hours latter they fold like a house of cards.

When there is evidence of Major voter fraud.

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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:27 AM
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3. Can't we do better?

Why not contact DNC, get the phone lists, and call up an entire precinct and verify who they voted for?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:33 AM
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4. I don't know
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 01:48 AM by Carolab
I worked with MoveOn to GOTV in my precinct. They have lists of the "infrequent Democratic voters". I don't know about all the voters. Have to get those from the SOS? Does anyone know how to go about it?
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:58 AM
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5. Diebold records burned on Nov 3rd
I liked this story...

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When Diebold machines were forced on Prince George's County, Maryland, the country's election administrator, Robert J. Antonetti, bitterly complained about them. He told the Baltimore Sun in 2003, "I feel very uneasy about it. There are too many loose ends."

On November 2, Prince George's County election officials reported a number of problems with Diebold encoders. The Prince George's County Gazette reported that a number of polling places opened up to 45 minutes late because the wrong Diebold encoder had been delivered to polling places and voters could not vote until a new encoder arrived. It is not known how many records the Prince George's County maintained on problems with Diebold, but it is very interesting that early in the morning of November 3, the Associated Press reported:

"UPPER MARLBORO, Maryland (AP)—Fire broke out Wednesday at the Prince George's County courthouse, engulfing a large section of the ornate building.

“About 100 firefighters were at the scene, fire and emergency medical service

spokesman Chauncey Bowers said."

And Washington, DC News Channel 4 reported: " . . . pictures from Chopper 4 shows that almost the entire building is completely ruined and a section could be in danger of partial collapse. Thick billowing black smoke can be seen for miles."

Early reports were sketchy on what records may have been destroyed by the flames in both the old courthouse building and an adjoining newer structure, but one report on Channel 4 stated that records had definitely been destroyed. Later reports claimed no records were stored in the burned out building.

But next time you see a Diebold employee, you may want to ask him, "Hey, pal, gotta match?"
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