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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:22 PM
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The end of the Republican majority
Today is the first day of the end of the Republican majority in the House and Senate.

It only the Republican majority exists for two reasons:
1) Voter suppression
2) Unholy coalition of old money, white racists and homophobes, gun nuts, and people who misinterpret the Bible

Step 1: The issue of voter suppresion is paramount - we must guilt the Republicans into passing nationwide voting standards. Keep the heat on.

Step 2: Expose the asshats. The problem wasn't that too many people saw Michael Moore's movie, the problem is that not enough people saw the movie. The American people are dumb, but I'd say the majority are frightened by the forces of old money, white racists and homophobes, gun nuts, and people who misinterpret the Bible.

Step 3: Organize, donate, work. If you tire, remember the speeches today by the asshats in the Republican party.

Step 4: For 2006, all our efforts should be focused on humiliating and deriding the Republican party. The very notion of being a Republican must be made laughable.

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:24 PM
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1. I pledge to glue BUSH CHEATED to bus stop shelters, pay phones
newspaper racks, etc.

With a can of 3M Super 77 spray adhesive and a trip to kinkos, you can be the media...

go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high res files













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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:26 PM
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6. At this point, you might consider switching to ridiculing Bush
and Republicans.

E.g. 'Bush = doofus' or whatever the kids are saying these days.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:37 PM
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15. George W. Bush is a punk ass bitch, Crony capitalist all about the rich...
With a can of 3M Super 77 spray adhesive and a trip to kinkos, you can be the media...

go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high res files



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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:16 PM
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46. "Bush is a punk-ass chump"
That's my bumper sticker. Hee hee.

Although I just turned 30, so I'm technically not a kid, I guess ;)
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electric-eye Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:41 PM
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18. I like it!
Are those pics yours?

Good job. Great idea.

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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:25 PM
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2. Nice Goal I`m In
may I borrow some of your catchy sound bites ?
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:25 PM
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3. At this point I'm hanging my hat on people getting tired of republicans
at some fucking point. For the love of God I don't know how much this country can take of these fuckers and remain standing.
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:27 PM
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9. We have to help the people 'get tired of republicans' n/t
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:56 PM
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32. This is the source of our dread
We now know it will have to get much worse before it gets better,

Woe is us....looking forward to the meltdown.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:25 PM
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4. I'm with you!
I'll add a reason why the Republicans will lose in the end.

They got a lot of votes by manipulating the religious right with lies. One of these days a lot of conservative Christians are going to wake up and notice how un-conservative and un-Christian the boys in the White House really are, and when that happens there will literally be Hell to pay.

The Republicans are going to be the boy who stuck a stick in a wasp nest and hung around to see what happens next.

And I am going to laugh on that day.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:55 PM
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31. This is an excellent point, and I may add...
That I have used this type of thinking in my discussions with Repubs. I ask them why the reps haven't pushed hard for overturning Roe V Wade when they control every single branch of government. They exclaim it is the liberals preventing it. After I stop laughing, I then point out that the "evil libs" are a small minority (especially when you factor in the "conservative" democrats) and the reps are sitting on this all important issue. When they have no explanation after this, I go into detail about what a "wedge issue" is and how it is used to keep uninformed people voting against their interests.

Tap their base for a change, I say.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:07 PM
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40. Welcome to DU! I've asked the same question about Roe v Wade
Roe v Wade was a decision made a Supreme Court with a majority of Republican-appointed judges and made during a Republican administration (Nixon).

Since that time there have been several years of Jerry Ford's administration, eight years of Reagan, four years of Poppy Bush, four years and counting of W. In all that time the Republican-controlled WHnever saw fit to challenge Roe v Wade? What's the hold up, Republicans?

For the past four years (and counting) conservative Republicans have controlled every branch of government - the White House, both houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court. Yet not a word about Roe v Wade except right before the election.

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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:32 PM
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49. Thank you yardwork :)
IMO the truth is that:

1. Repubs have found the ultimate wedge issue and will not allow it to ever go away.

2. When you look at who is actually having the most abortions, it is minorities...primarily blacks and hispanics. Read that as potential progressive voters.

Personally, I find it amusing when Dr. Dobson of Focus on the Family (bleh) threatens against inaction on Abortion or other "values" issues. It is all a shell game to keep well-meaning but uninformed people voting against their interests.

I mean, hell, it's not like if Bush does nothing on Roe v Wade that Dr. Dobson's lemmings will emigrate to Kerry, Edwards, Clinton, or whomever in 2008.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:25 PM
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5. Agree with everything but one small point...
We cannot "guilt" the repubs into passing a nationwide voting standards. In order for guilt to work, a conscience must be present.

However, we can pressure them.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:27 PM
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7. true
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:27 PM
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8. The GOP by and large made themselves to look like fools today
---------------------------------------------------------------
Election reform can help save this country!
Same day primaries with ranked voting ballots for the Dems, and
THESE reforms for your town, county, and state.
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:28 PM
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10. You notice that racist thing, too?
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 08:30 PM by Blue_In_AK
I thought the comments by the republicans in the House today absolutely underlined how racist they are. I felt like smacking them.
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anaxarchos Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:47 PM
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21. A Montgomery Klan Meeting...

...And not even this years model.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:28 PM
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11. The very notion of being a Republican must be made laughable
They are.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:54 PM
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29. Precisely. Let's give 'Republican' the 'Liberal' treatment...
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 08:55 PM by FreepFryer
straight from their own playbook. At the same time, we reclaim 'Liberal' by claiming 'Liberty'.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:37 PM
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50. Yes reclaim "Liberal"
You can also call it many other things but why not just take it back ?

Giving "Republican" the 'Liberal' treatment doesn't work so well because studies have shown that progressives are less likely to victimize others. They are more tolerant of those unlike themselves.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:28 PM
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12. I think the only way to get equal protection, and not....
encounter any voter supression, is to ALL re-register as (I know this makes me want to vomit) republicans, just so they don't know where the "dem" precincts are.... and can't target them.

Does that make any sense???

I mean, we have a one-party system now. Why not try to beat them at their own game?

Just a thought.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:30 PM
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13. I would die first. n/t
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:39 PM
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17. Won't work, they know where African Americans live, the US is...
segregated.

They used market research to target. Own a volvo and practice yoga? You're a dem
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:21 PM
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48. Creative...but
it's a strategy that's coming from a victim mentality.

Momma always taught me to take the high road. Root out the problem, don't get down to their level.
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stirringstill Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:32 PM
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14. They should be ashamed to be Rebulican
Agreed. 1-2-3-4 Ahh. If people only knew them.
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greatscott15 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:37 PM
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16. Bush Won Fair - Move on Folks
Gosh, I feel like screaming at everyone here.

Bush won. I don't like it, but he did. If there was 1 shred of vote fraud, our friends in the MSM would have been all over it since Nov 3rd.

Keeping thinking it was voter fraud, and we'll be loosing in 2008 too.

Why does everything we don't like have to be because someone cheated or they are conservative?

Kerry was a bad candidate. Many Americans like Bush personally even if they don't agree with him. We are at war. Bush was a sitting president. Why is it so hard to believe he could have won?

We gotta face the real issues or continue to loose elections.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:45 PM
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20. MOVE ON????
Why are exit polls 100% correct for every election on the planet in the history of time, with the EXCEPTION of 2000, 2002, and 2004????

I'll give you Bush didn't lose by a landslide, but I believe the exit polls, and I KNOW there was supression, and the recount in Ohio did NOT match up, but it was certified anyway....

No, I don't believe Kerry lost, and I believe there was lots of FRAUD, and I don't believe for a minute that the MSM hasn't had a blackout on this story.

Sorry. But they are a wholey owned subsidary of the BFEE.
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greatscott15 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:50 PM
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24. Exit Polls are NOT Always Right
Get the real facts. Exit polls have NOT always been 100% correct.

And the exit polls everyone has talked about here for weeks, were early exit polls. The early exit polls have never been released publically before for a reason. They are notoriously wrong! The final exit polls, the ones we usually here about, were in line with the final results.

Gosh, we gotta get back in touch with reality here folks.

I hurt, you hurt, we all hurt. But blaming vote fraud is not what lost the election.

Kerry was a bad candidate, and Bush won.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:55 PM
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30. But they are used all over the planet to prove fraud, and as a barometer
for fair elections...... except HERE when the GOP are in charge.

HELLO???

All you need is a switch in the registry of the OS of the central server where the votes are tallied, and you can have any electoral total you want. IT IS SO EASY. Proof??? Why don't they want a fair recount? Why do they fight it every step of the way? Why were there so many reports of repression? WIDESPREAD! For me that's proof enough to investigate.

Exit polls are proof enough everywhere else but here.
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greatscott15 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:59 PM
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36. Just Theories
Keep dreaming vote fraud theories, and we'll be swearing in Rudy or McCain 4 years from now.

Gotta be careful with statistics. They can lead you down any path you want.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:11 PM
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41. You're crazy - Jeb is next. Why do you think they sent him to
Thailand with Uncle Colin?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:14 PM
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43. How about a little reading to enlighten you?
As for fraud and irregularities, this is what John Conyers was talking about today:
http://yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_16832.shtml
At the bottom of the page is a link to read the entire pdf of the report. Beware, it is big. Read the whole thing, and tell me what you think.

As for Bush's big victory, look at it in this perspective:
"In the popular vote, Bush has a margin of 3 percent. This is lower than the margin held by any president since 1916, with the exceptions of Kennedy in 1960, Nixon in 1968, and of course, W himself's negative margin in 2000 (remember, he lost the popular vote that time). Bush also has the smallest Electoral College margin, 6%, of any president since 1916, with the exception of his own 1% margin in 2000.

A mandate is a rare event, a signal of overwhelming political support. Reagan had a mandate in 1984, with an 18% popular margin and a 95% electoral margin. Two decades earlier, Johnson had a mandate with a 23% popular margin and an 81% electoral margin. These presidents had the “will of the people at their back.”

However, it's clear that the people in this election were split. Bush has a margin of 3% in the popular vote -- 51%. That is not a mandate, it's a margin of error."

http://www.notamandate.org/mandate.html

Pretty interesting, no?

Happy reading :hi:
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:16 PM
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45. Well said!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:18 PM
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47. Too bad that's the second time I posted those links for that guy
and he (she?) still hasn't acknowledged them. Maybe he (she) is busy reading the Conyers report :P
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:48 PM
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22. You move on, asshole.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:49 PM
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23. There are numerous shreds of vote fraud - big giant pieces of vote fraud
My own mother experienced vote fraud in Ohio. Just because it wasn't on Fox News doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:51 PM
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EXACTLY.
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greatscott15 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:57 PM
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34. OK - Give Kerry 1 more Vote in OH
OK, so you mom experienced vote fraud. Give Kerry another vote or two?

Why does everyone here think only the repukes were doing fraud. Heck, our side was too. In your heart, you know it.

If OH had been a 1000 vote margin, then we could complain. No way there was enough vote fraud on just the republican side to have BUsh win by 120K votes.

Why don't the republicans contest other states Kerry won. Kerry won several states by a lot less than Bush won OH.

I am just so tired of everyone staying in dreamland here. Everyone promised that Kerry was playing a grand chess game. He had all the evidence. This was going nuclear. He would be sworn in on Jan 20th. I kept hope up, but nothing.

I am trying to keep on open mind. I have read 1000's of posts here over the last few weeks. So far, I have not seen anything that would convince a jury that there was vote fraud, by just the republicans.

We just gotta face the fact the won Bush this. We gotta face that more Americans voted for Bush. We gotta get our message out better if we want to win 2008. With today's fiasco by Boxer and company, even more people think we are whiners than after 2000.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:00 PM
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38. Oh what nonsense. No offense, but you are simply wrong.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:13 PM
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42. Better message? Is that why people waited up to ELEVEN HOURS
to vote? Because we had a weak message????
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:52 PM
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26. The only thing Bush ever 'won' was his place as Lead Cheerleader @ Yale.
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:53 PM
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28. What??!!
Where have you been for the last two months? Did you read Conyer's report? Kerry won.
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:43 PM
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19. We Own them.
They have no balls.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:51 PM
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25. good stuff. in my family, the two repugs don't open their mouths.
they fucking know better and get this? After the election, they actually felt ashamed. I could see it on their faces.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:53 PM
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27. :) Maybe that's the first step. Be loving and forgiving with them! :)
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:56 PM
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33. I Agree 100% We should paint them as the moneygrubbers they are
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 08:56 PM by BigBearJohn
With NO values
The man with an ice cream cone in one hand and holding a knife
behind his back with the other.

It's all in the advertising. Paint them as they really are.
I always loved the bumper sticker,
"No one died when Clinton lied."

We have so many creative people here, we should come up with
ways of discrediting them (legally) the way they discredit us...
only show them we can be much better than they are at it.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:58 PM
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35. Hire a bunch of 8 year old schoolyard bullies
That's about their level.
Have them for a committee to come up with
ways of verbally egging the puke's faces.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:59 PM
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37. I HAVE BUMPER Stickers
everywhere on my car. One I made myself that goes all across the back bumper (stolen phrase) but says... There's A Village In Texas That's Missing An Idiot.

Came out of the grocery store the other day and people were "eyeing" my car. I asked them if they liked it and they said YES! I told them they would stay until the Florida sun fades them, and then be REPLACED by many more!

George Bush, The Idiot... El-Smirkle-Roy IS NOT MY PRESIDENT! Oh, oh, that WILL do!

I have a wooden sign in my yard that says... "This is a BLUE STATE HOME!" It will stay out in front too! Underneath it says, Bush Sucks! And I live in REPUKE country!


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Coloradan4Truth Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:05 PM
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39. Promote Liberal Radio
Tonight I'm working on the "End of the Republican Majority" by emailing my local talk radio stations and asking that they put the Ed Schultz show on their program list.

Let's all do this. Once they put Ed on, then we can push for Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy. :evilgrin:

C4T
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:14 PM
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44. I agree but will democrats do it?
They seem pathologically unable to call a spade a spade apart from the congressional black caucus.

Most people won't get what they are saying about vote suppression and fraud if they just infer it. They have to flatly state it, and put the onus on the GOP to disprove it.

In many ways, the two parties remind me of the OJ trial. The democrats are like the prosecution, trying to look smart, scholarly, and fair. The GOP is Johnny Cochran, playing to win without worrying about how he looks.

If the democrats don't become Johnny cochran they will be crushed.

If they go after the GOP in the half-hearted way they did today, it will have precisely the same effect as slapping a pit bull.
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