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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:20 AM
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My good feeling turned into a great feeling
Today my faith in democracy returned. The dems didn't roll over and play dead as they did in 2000.

Today, we fought back. We made history contesting the election for the first time in over 100 years.

I give the current "regime" no more than 2 years. The shit will hit the fan my friends, and we made it happen. BE SO happy.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:22 AM
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1. We'll continue to make it happen too.
I'm smiling a tired, happy smile, helder.

NGU.


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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:23 AM
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2. happy tired smile back
helderheid is the dutch word for clarity.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:25 AM
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6. here's a grin
great name
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:27 AM
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8. thanks!!
It's my real name :)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:31 AM
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11. And you have plenty of it.
:)

NGU.


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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:24 AM
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3. How many of these positive threads are you going to start
You are interrupting my pity party. ;)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:25 AM
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5. Aw shit
Sorry about that! :)
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:44 AM
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14. That's ok
It wasn't much of a party anyway.
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progressiveandproud Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:12 AM
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35. Heh...
I find that poking fun at my self-pity can be a darn good way of getting rid of it.

"But I was really enjoying feeling sorry for myself! I prefer to be miserable!"

Eh. Didn't work so well that time.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:25 AM
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4. I agree.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:26 AM
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7. I hope it's sooner than 2 yrs
The monkey can cause a lot of destruction in 2 years. Yes, we did fight back today, but it's a damn shame that only one person stood up to fight. And Yeh, it was a WOMAN!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:27 AM
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9. ovaries
ROCK
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:35 AM
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12. Looked to me like about 50 or so stood up to fight.
And if you're talking about the formal objection, it was TWO women. But maybe you didn't notice the first one because her face is black.

NGU.


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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:05 AM
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26. Actually, I'm insulted at that comment, Class Warrior
I wasn't trying to imply that Ms Boxer was the ONLY person involved in this objection. Ms. Tubbs-Jones was the "founder" of this objection if I'm correct and I DID notice her. Ms. Boxer was the only SENATOR that had the nerve to stand up and fight. A lot of others had something to say, but Ms. Boxer and Ms. Tubbs-Jones both, voted yes! And ask my family, I'm the least prejudice person they know.
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:31 AM
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10. I do believe that bringing down stump has been first and formost...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:40 AM
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13. We're going nowhere.
They can bluster all they want, but the joint resolution settled nothing.

+ They still didn't win....and the evidence isn't going to stop coming because the Republicans re-proclaimed Dimson the pResident.
+ Iraq ain't getting better as long as Bush is calling the shots.
+ The budget will still hemorage until they .....raise taxes.......
+ There are still unanswered questions about 9/11, anthrax, Plame, DeLay, and other bombshells that probably haven't been uncovered...yet.
+ The stolen election will motivate the majority that got shafted for the 2nd time to continue to oppose this fraudulent administration.

Republicans have hit their highwater mark. There's nowhere to go but down from here.

;-)


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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:46 AM
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15. Lordy lordy lord, I hope you are right.
I want to see Bush and his fucking dildo cronies fall hard.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:51 AM
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17. pride goeth
before a big fucking fall
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:55 AM
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20. I agree- those pricks are blinded by their arrogance.
It will be a hard landing.
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:44 AM
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33. Pride?
Actually, that's arrogance that goeth before the big fucking fall.
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:51 AM
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16. I vote we should continue to help Conyers, Madsen.
and any others who are investigating the illegal election of *
and expose this administration for the sham that it is!
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:53 AM
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18. Contribute to the Boxer, Stubbs-Jones flowers fund, please!!!!!!!!!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:55 AM
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19. are we really pledging money
for flowers when we could open a fund to support tsunami survivors or election reform?
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:58 AM
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23. yes, we are
We want to thank them for their courage in defense of American Democracy. I like the idea of pledging for humanitarian relief as well, but I would advocate the Congo or a general fund rather than Tsunami, since the organizations have gotten overwhelming amounts for that fund. We can do both. The flowers are something we want to do tomorrow. They will be delivered to the Hill and show the other congresspeople that Americans thank these patriotic women for their courage.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:00 AM
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24. support for progressive candidates helps everyone in the world
remember that. I applaud your desire to give to the Tsunami victims. I have done that myself. I always want to thank Boxer and Stubbs-Jones.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:02 AM
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25. Money doesn't have to go to just one place... that's it's function. :)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:56 AM
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21. Yes we did fight back and it was glorious.
We have much work left to do and we will move forward.
Congrats to all of you and to the Reps. and Sens. who stood for what is right. There will be plenty more to come. Watergate took years.

Patience and a continuing desire to find the facts and fight for democracy -- that's what we're gonna need to make it happen. So, gear up for battle.

NGU
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:57 AM
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22. never give up
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:12 AM
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28. Thanks, Patsy. You're right, too!
Man, I'm not sure how much more geared up we can be except to get our Orange Tent and move into Lafayette park.

Did you hear the older guy historian today on C-SPAN say, "Well you didn't see the Ukraine folk wait around for some congressional noodling..." Or something like that.

Thanks for keeping it upbeat. Usually I do too.

Cheers.

:hi:
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:08 AM
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27. Thank you for you uplifting post.
It's been a real hard day and I agree we are one step closer but it still is achingly slow. Guess I'm mourning a bit for our democracy.

All I can think about is Boxer sitting there after her objection, surrounded by allies, tiny, alone. It reminded me of being a strong woman in one of the many Good Old Boy Corporations. God, they made life hell! I can only imagine the snide remarks and asides they gave her today.

NOW, That woman deserves the Congressional Medal of Freedom!

Thanks for perking me up and helping me keep my eyes on the prize.

"When in doubt, the gals get it done." Don't know who said it but I can guess it wasn't a man.

Cheers!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:12 AM
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29. thank YOU
right before I go to bed

Send flowers to those who deserve them and money to those who need it!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:13 AM
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30. one more
to make it burn.

nighty night all!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:20 AM
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31. It did. They didn't. We did. We did. We did. It will. We did.
And finally, I'AM!! :-) Good post, Helderheid.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:40 AM
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32. Yes! They didn't. WE did! Go, us! n/t
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deacon2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:07 AM
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34. My grandfather taught me to fight
He said, "you can't always win, but you've got to make them pay the price." And so we did today. I hope the bastards keep paying and paying... it makes me all warm and Christmasy just too see it.
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