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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:51 AM
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Systematic suppression of hundred of thousands of minority voters in seve
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 12:00 PM by berniew1
several states as a matter of strategy; huge number of voters affected and more races than the Presidential race.

There was widespead, systematic disinfranchisement of minority voters in the 2004 election that prevented hundreds of thousands of minority voters from voting, in several states. This affected the election results on many races in several states, and in particular the presidential race.

This is documented by the Election Incident Report System(EIRS) reports at

www.voteprotect.org / maps and also by other documentation.

Some examples:

Huge numbers(over 100,000) of voters systematically disinfranchised in New Orleans,

La. (which has the largest group of minority voters and Democrats in the state), by shortage of voting machines, pattern of improperly functioning voting machines throughout the area, but not in other areas, and systematic malfeasance by officials.
http://www.flcv.com/neworlea.html

There was also specifically vote machine fraud and malfeasace to prevent minority voters from voting in the presidential race. http://www.flcv.com/presiden.html


There was systematic disinfranchisement of minority voters in Mercer County, Pennsylavania by shortage of machines, improperly functioning machines the whole election day, and malfeasance of officials. http://www.flcv.com/mercerco.html


There was systematic disinfranchisement of thousands of minority voters in Ohio due to

malfeasance of officials in registration and election system, rules biased to prevent minority votes being counted, systematic shortage of voting machines in minority and student precincts,

improperly functioning machines and proceedures designed to cause large numbers of misvotes in minority precincts.

http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm Columbus, Cleveland, etc.

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19 see various articles

www.voteprotect.org and www.votersunite.org Ohio

There was systematic voter suppression in large numbers of minority precincts in Florida

(examples)

http://www.flcv.com/palmbeao.html

http://www.flcv.com/browardo.html

http://www.flcv.com/dadeo.html

There was widespread systematic voter suppression and malfeasance to create misvotes in minority areas of New Mexico.

http://www.flcv.com/bernalil.html

This also occurred in many other areas as documented in the EIRS database at

www.voteprotect.org

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:06 PM
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1. Your link for New Orleans shows lots of problems...
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 12:06 PM by IndyOp
It does not show over 100,000 voters systematically disenfranchised.

I am willing to believe that there were 100,000's of Louisiana voters disenfranchised.

You need to make a much stronger case.

I really appreciate your hard work gathering the data you have gathered so far...

:kick:
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:08 PM
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3. Have you really looked at the URLs; do a bit of counting
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 12:13 PM by berniew1
I've looked at the data a lot, and it appears to me over 100,000 in several states likely.
But I'm fairly certain of over 50,000 in several states. I admit its hard to estimate, but its clear it was a very large number. I think closer to 100,000 than 50,000
Look carefully and make your own estimate. What do you get??
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:24 PM
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7. Sorry to be a pain in the a**, but my point is that if you want people
to believe that you have important evidence you will probably need to make it a lot easier for them to understand what they are looking at and what you think it means.

If you want to educate people at DU about the extent of the fraud you will probably need to write some summary sentences and paragraphs and fully explain how you come up with your estimates. Instead of listing each problem that occurred - do a bit more analysis. What types of machine errors occurred? (Breakdown? Vote hopping? Other?) How many of each type of error occurred? How many people voted at those precincts? At that machine? How many voted in such a way that a problem with the machine would have caused their vote to be recorded incorrrectly? How, exactly do you get 100,000's vote affected?

You may have all the evidence you need to make your point, but unless you make it readable and make clear your logic so others can critique -- you may not make the impact you want.

:kick:

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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:06 PM
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2. Vote machine fraud and malfeasance to prevent minorities from voting
in New Orleans http://www.flcv.com/presiden.html

and in other states such as Pennslyvania
http://www.flcv.com/mercerco.html

and New Mexico
http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html
http:/www.flcv.com/bernalil.html

and Ohio
http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm Columbus and Cleveland
http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

and others- see other state URLs
and www.votersunite.org and www.voteprotect.org
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:18 PM
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4. Note that the most vote machine fraud also occurred in minority precincts
and it appears alone it could have affected over 100,000 votes in
some states like Florida; and lots in Ohio, New Mexico, and Pennsylvania. I believe the evidence supports collectively over 100,000 in some states and over 50,000 in others.
www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:20 PM
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5. I guess racism
is just a "glitch" ....
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:27 PM
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6. Berniew1 .. This is a great compilation,.
Nice work! Real ugly pictures that need to get out there.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:28 PM
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8. Kickin, berniew1
Nice work, as par usual.
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