Cheswick2.0
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:11 PM
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Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 12:13 PM by Cheswick2.0
Unless something changes drastically to reverse the course the democratic party is on, unless lightning strikes and democrats are willing not just to pay lip service but to vote according to the truth and not the politics, democrats are going to lose more seats in both the congress and the senate.
PS..... and because the republicans were not expecting our state house and governorship victories, they will now be prepared to fight on those fields too. Our biggest problem is that democrats will not fight.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:12 PM
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1. Which is precisely what the DLC wants. They might just get it. |
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:14 PM
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3. why would the DLC want the Democrats to lose seats |
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please share with all of us your insight into this
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:16 PM
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Cheswick2.0
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:17 PM
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8. because for some of them, that is their purpose |
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the fact that individual members have not figure that out yet is too bad. But From and his sidekick skippy, do not care if democrats win or lose as long as the country moves right and they get to skim their money off the top of corporate donations.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:32 PM
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19. because everything is a GOP conspiracy... even gravity. |
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:39 PM
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20. glad you finally realize that |
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:12 PM
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2. That might actually be a good thing... |
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because sometimes people only WAKE UP when they are backed into a corner with a gun to their temples...
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:14 PM
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5. I would have thought they would have recognized they were standing |
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in a corner years ago, during the impeachment.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:20 PM
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There is a coming meltdown. Iraq is not going to improve, financial chaos at home.
Someone is going to be blamed, the so called Man-date is not that deep. Who would want to walk into this mess?
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:14 PM
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They are not following through after yesterday correctly and the Republicanarian Echo Chamber is defining what happened.
25 House Seats and six Senate seats is my prediction under current circumstances.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:17 PM
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7. Well, duh that precisely why we need to have a uniform way |
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to vote. Yesterday opened the door to that. Of course the pugs don't want to reform a system that they can rig, but they'll have to after the court cases prove fraud. Yesterday was Act I for things to come. It ain't over until the fat lady sings!
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:19 PM
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10. I doubt anything will be done at all |
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and what is done will not go far enough. It will be another lame ass HAVA bill. Republicans own the country and there is nothing to be done by talking nice in the congress.
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Fri Jan-07-05 04:27 PM
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24. Why does everyone forget that the state controlls the elections? |
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Why dont we launch state campaigns in all the battle ground states for state voter reform?
If the thugs in congress won't do it, do it at the state level. Even if we only get 4 of the 8 reformed it means a better chance the next election is run fairly.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:19 PM
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Just save up the whole objections debate in House and Senate. Then burn it to DVD and start sharing it with friends. Let them do blackout on media let them misreport. Then the people you share it with will understand why there has to be such a HISTORICAL OBJECTION and hehe the stand is clear they defending voter rights. I love it when the opposition start digging their own grave. Lovely does guys turning the objections into one big lovely nuke for you guys to use on them.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:22 PM
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with all the obvious fraud in Ohio, the senate didn't even have the guts to make a protest vote except for Boxer. It is nice some people spoke, but they have almost no power and what little power they have they have shown themselves over and over and over and over, unwilling to use.
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Fri Jan-07-05 04:41 PM
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26. It has got to come from the people...overseas visitor is right. |
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That "debate" yesterday will be clear ammo that will be used over and over again until 2008, when people will finally be aware that there is no point in voting, because your vote doesn't count.
Then there will be widescale protest and breaking down.
It would be nice if it came before then, and we can keep working at it.
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Fri Jan-07-05 09:16 PM
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I have to say the elected representative try.... They sure took the risk to get attention and they do it even though they know they wont win... Its was Historical and yet look at the coverage What can I say, the media twisted the whole thing and make you representatives look bad
It is clear your represenatives need your support The MSM are their enemies and they dont have way to talk to all of you any more
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:21 PM
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I've about come around to the position that the DNC can only be saved at this point by making Howard Dean the new chair.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:24 PM
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14. I love Dean but even he is not a miracle worker |
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we have to do more than save the DNC, we have to save the country and the DNC is not the vehical.
I am predicting we will have a crisis at some point and the thing that saves us will be civil disobedience. But the democrats will not be out in front unless it is the folks who voted the right way yesterday. Some democrats may be out in front, but they won't be of the elected variety.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:28 PM
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I predict that, a week before the "election," the Republicans congressional approval rate will be about 40%. Then, they will "win" another big victory, adding many more seats in Congress and a week later, the approval rating will still be about 40%.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:29 PM
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17. yes and democrats will scratch their asses |
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and talk about how we need voting reform and to talk more about religion.
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Fri Jan-07-05 03:43 PM
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Fri Jan-07-05 04:37 PM
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25. just like today's story on yahoo about the boy king, |
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his approval rating is at 49%. Curious, because that is where it was on election day when he miraculously pulled out his 51% "win." If it looks like a fish, talks like a fish, smells like a fish... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=703&e=6&u=/ap/20050107/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_poll
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:29 PM
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Unless the voting machine scam is rooted out and fixed, the Christo-fascists steal 5 more senate seats to make their dictates fillabuster proof.
Victory will be complete. The nation has gone mad.
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Fri Jan-07-05 12:31 PM
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18. how is the voter machine scam going to be rooted out |
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when so few democrats elected to office are even willing to talk about it much less willing to vote to certify the results of those rigged machines?
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Fri Jan-07-05 03:48 PM
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22. Boxer proved they will fight if we ask them to. |
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Fri Jan-07-05 04:10 PM
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the israelis with attack iran and our 7th fleet will be taken out by sunburn missiles............
And of course the neocons will blame it on the liberal elites
:hi:
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Fri Jan-07-05 04:48 PM
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27. 30-35 senators remaining for the DNC... |
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