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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:45 PM
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Kerry's Last Flip-Flop
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 09:55 AM by Skinner
Mr. Parry has a perspective that speaks to many of us and will anger others who still believe that Kerry has a "secret plan." What is of no doubt is that Kerry's actions since Nov. 3 has damaged his plans to run for President again in 2008 due to disaffection amongst the Democratic base. What do you think of what Mr. Parry has to say? Do you agree or disagree?

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Kerry's Last Flip-Flop
By Sam Parry
January 6, 2005

John Kerry may have written his own political obituary with a pathetic letter to his supporters saying that he won't back a protest by African-American House members against voting fraud in Ohio. Instead, he urges his supporters to call Republican leaders and demand that they reform the electoral system.

The letter reads like it was written by the caricature of John Kerry that George W. Bush portrayed during the campaign: the indecisive, flip-flopping politician who wants to be on every side of an issue.

"I will not be taking part in a formal protest of the Ohio Electors,"Kerry wrote in an e-mail to 3 million supporters on Jan. 5. "Despite widespread reports of irregularities, questionable practices by some election officials and instances of lawful voters being denied the right to vote, our legal teams on the ground have found no evidence that would change the outcome of the election."

While rejecting the efforts of Rep. John Conyers and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus to demand a floor debate on the Ohio abuses at a joint congressional session on Jan. 6, Kerry then calls on his supporters to renew the fight for fair elections in the future.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/010605.html


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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:46 PM
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1. Stop hating on Kerry!
:hurts: :cry:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:23 PM
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21. It's a disease Sista -
Some people cannot accept the fact that Kerry is NOT responsible for their happiness and contentment - they are.

There is a disturbingly high number of people who cannot sleep at night unless Senator John Kerry caters to their every whim.
News flash! Want something done? DO IT. Stop looking for a whipping boy to scapegoat so YOU can feel better.

This sort of misdirected rage is totally unhealthy. There are always going to be people who do not do exactly what you want them to do, in order to make YOU happy. Get over it. Take the bull by the horns and start taking responsibility for your own mental well being. Don't count on the actions of others to make you feel good.

People need to stop losing their minds if Kerry doesn't to exactly what they want him to, every time. No one ever will, and to expect them to is unrealistic.


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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:48 PM
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2. Flip-Flop? Spoke Like A True Republican
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:49 PM
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5. that was my thought
the thread title is offensive
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:01 PM
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12. That is the title of the article...not mine.
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:05 PM by ClarkUSA
How many of you are reading the article before you flame this thread?
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:20 PM
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18. VERY offensive! Change the goddamn title!
:mad:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:48 PM
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3. I don't think he will run in '08
and I think his influence on the party will be about the same as McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis enjoy.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:50 PM
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7. He will run I am 99.9% sure. He would have in all liklihood
joined the contest if he didn't have future presidential aspirations
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:59 PM
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10. Good, then I can vote against him in the primary
if he makes it that far.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:48 PM
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4. Anyone Want a REFUND


Do you think if we could prove that Kerry failed to do what he promised he would do we could get a refund on our campaign gifts?????

Kerry gave up Way To Soon........I say we have the Ticket switch rolls and put Edwards at the top.....At least Edwards want to fight.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:51 PM
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8. Why do you have pic of Kerry on your avitar?
Fairweathered people. I like Edwards too. He should run again.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:50 PM
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6. The GOP read anti-Dem news editorials in the debate too. It's still vile.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:56 PM
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9. DU is not Congress. This is a discussion forum, I believe.
Have you even bothered to read the article?
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:03 PM
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14. "Cry censorship." Kerry's not pathetic. Your bash attempt is.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:14 PM
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15. Excuse me? When did I say any one of your above comments?
Attacking the messenger? Sorry to disabuse you, but this article is full of sadness and disappointment, not anger. It describes what many feel. I was also prepared that some would be angry and I was right.

Have you read the article?
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:18 PM
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17. 'pathetic' in the first sentence. I read it, I disagree, want unity. n/t
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:30 PM
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23. Thanks for explaining and weighing in
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:35 PM by ClarkUSA
That was the article author's word, not mine...and I know many who have said as much here at DU.

I want unity, too, Freep Fryer. And I agree with William Pitt that election reform is a primary concern if we ever want to win another major election. But it's important to acknowledge what many are feeling about Kerry - not only here, but all across the blogosphere and in our brick-and-mortar lives. We have to
try to understand each other even we don't agree if there is to be unity. Faking it
or forcing it from above isn't effective (see 2004 DNC convention results).
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:59 PM
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11. I think Perry is right in many ways
especially about the dems and their votes for the Iraqi war. We all knew this was as Robert Byrd said it was, for political reasons. None of them believed that bush was not headed to war. They were afraid if it was a success that they would be losers. None, except Byrd stood up for truth. It was disgusting at the time and I remember it well. I thought I was living in an bizarre world. It wasn't making any sense for all of the senators to vote for war when we knew they were against it.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:02 PM
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13. We couldn't prove fraud changed the outcome of the election.
In this country we are suppose to be innocent until proven guilty and I have yet to see prove beyond a reasonable doubt that prevents Bush from being re-elected. The burden of prove is on the perceived loser.

We need to fight for election reform because that battle needs to be won and it gives us the high ground. In the meantime - keep investigating fraud - I would love to see Bush nailed if we can trace it to him.

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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:21 PM
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19. I'm with you clarkusa
I was disgusted with kerrys evasive answers to any question

I only voted for him cause Dean was crushed by MSM and the DLC..

FUCKIN KANGAROOS!

http://www.endofworld.net/

:dem:
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:17 PM
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16. I believe if Dean had been in the same position as Kerry
on Nov 3rd, we would not be having a discussion similar to this concerning him
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:27 PM
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22. No, we wouldn't. n/t
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:47 PM
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25. I hope Dean wins the DNC Chairmanship...
and I hope he makes election reform a real issue for the Democratic base to rally around, though I also feel that former House Rep. Martin Frost of Texas wouldn't be a bad choice, either. He really took on Tom DeLay in his time.

We need new leadership who can see from outside the Beltway fishbowl and are more in touch with real people than their million-dollar /year Capitol consultants.
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:22 PM
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20. What happens when fraud is proved?
Kerry will continue to investigate election fraud. He will work for election reform. When his efforts prove that this election was stolen, nothing can prevent him from winning in 2008. If he backs down from his promise to ensure fair and transparent elections in future, he will just disappear.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:33 PM
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24. Kerry isn't planning to investigate anything that I know of ...
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:34 PM by ClarkUSA
he said quite clearly in his last letter that he and his lawyers don't think there was any election fraud.

Have you heard differently since yesterday?
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