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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:47 PM
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Who is Russ Baker? This coming from Tom Paine?
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:23 PM by shance
This article came to me from Tom Paine this morning. Normally I like Tom Paine. However, I don't know who "Russ Baker" is, and his writing is not only insulting in my opinion, its misleading and inaccurate. Apparently he's a founding fellow at the Fourth Estate Society, (whatever that is).



Election 2004: Stolen Or Lost
Russ Baker
January 07, 2005

<snip>


Many of us fear that the Ohio election was stolen because people—like talk show sleuths, blogger number-crunchers, forensic attorneys, crusading professors and partisan activists—keep telling us so. We don't even know most of these people, yet we gladly forward their e-mails and Web links, their pronouncements, analyses, essays and statistical exercises. While their credentials may not be that impressive, we listen to their conspiracy theories because—frightened by the direction our country has taken—we want to believe them.

"While a variety of methods were used to perpetrate the election fraud of which there is clear and convincing evidence in the form of the exit polls, …it is likely that traditional easily detectable means were one of the principal methods of the election fraud."

Strong words indeed. Among the evidence supporting them:

* Specific instances in which strange or troubling things happened when people voted or while votes were being counted.
* The discrepancy between exit polls and the final result.

This week, Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., released a report that catalogues widespread problems in the Ohio vote. The report concludes that the "massive and unprecedented" voting irregularities in Ohio were in many cases caused by "intentional misconduct and illegal behavior." Sounds like fraud to me.

Conyers' report is considerably tamer and more cautious than earlier pronouncements out of his office, and certainly more so than many of the allegations being circulated on the Internet. Much of his report, however, is based on charges emerging from the Contest. Let's see how such charges hold up under close scrutiny.

Voting Irregularities

Charge: Misallocation of voting machines
Finding: True
Intentional? Probably not

The Contest petition lists specific counties where voting irregularities occurred, including Franklin and Trumbull: "In Franklin County there was a discriminatory assignment of more voting machines per registered voter to precincts with more white voters than African-American voters…."

William Anthony is the chairman of the Franklin County board of elections. As an African-American and a Democrat himself (in fact, he is the county chairman and works as a union representative) Anthony resents the suggestion that Franklin County authorities somehow worked to help Bush. "I worked my ass off in those precincts," he says of African-American areas of the county.

A precinct-by-precinct historical comparison of registered and actual voters, and of voting machine assignments, does show that some precincts with a large African-American population ended up with fewer machines per person than some mostly white precincts. But Anthony points out that Franklin County faced a number of challenges.

For one thing, it was using very old electronic voting machines that under new state law will be defunct by the next presidential election, when every county will be required to have a paper trail for recounts. Given the short lifespan of the machines, it didn't make economic sense to buy more of them. So it was a matter of allocating a scarce resource. That resource was stretched thinner by an increasing population. Franklin County had a spurt of growth in outlying areas, with blocks of apartments sprouting recently where cornfields had been. Suddenly, authorities had 29 additional precincts to conside—requiring approximately 200 more machines.

Also, although incoming voter registration figures showed surges in certain areas, that didn't mean the newly registered would necessarily vote. And certainly not in greater numbers than in many established precincts where a high percentage of registered voters typically went to the polls.

When the county elections director recently explained the machine assignment process as "a little bit art, a little bit science," he was ridiculed by the critics. But in fact, what he meant was that a whole multiplicity of factors had to be considered—it wasn't a simple formula.

(Tipped your hand Russ. It SHOULD be a SIMPLE formula)

<snip>

Significantly, the people making these decisions aren't necessarily Bush partisans. Every county in Ohio, by law, divides its elections personnel evenly between the Democrats and Republicans. This means that where the chief administrator of elections is, say, a Republican, the chairperson of the elections board is a Democrat. In the case of Franklin County, two individuals shared the task of allocating machines—and one was a Democrat.

<end>

So, we are going to see more of this kind of stuff. People posing as "Democrats" and/or liberals at liberal websites and publications so they can essentially write doubt creating, divisive, muddying articles like this one.

Asking substantial questions are one thing, denying reality and the facts like Mr. Baker has done, is another.
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:00 PM
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1. Fourth Estate Society info
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:02 PM by pk_du
http://www.schotline.com/aar122104.htm

( on edit this is just info about their startup...not their own website)

Still looking for info on Russ Baker but the FES sounds legit and pursuing laudable goals.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:11 PM
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3. I'm impressed!! Thank you PK.
and for your research***

Have to say,I was not happy to see such an article coming from Tom Paine this morning.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:21 PM
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6. Looks like a good organization. Jeff Cohen is the founder of
FAIR.
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:11 PM
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2. Russ has his own website where all his articles ( inc. ones fromTP)
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:13 PM
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4. You are good PK.
Thank ya hon :)
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:40 PM
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9. No problem.
Looks like he and FES are on the "right" side...but I do agree it should be a fairly simple formula for allocating Voting machines...def time for national standards...too many counties do "what they can afford".
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:15 PM
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5. He certainly looks qualified from first glance. Why the U turn today?
I don't get it.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:24 PM
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7. Russ is a good guy. He is VERY skeptical of EVERYTHING --
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:24 PM by IdaBriggs
which I think is a great trait in an investigative journalist. He actually does a great job (in my opinion) of presenting BOTH SIDES of an issue, which is what I believe a REAL journalist does. He also is big on double checking his sources, verifying background, etc. and will *NOT* publish anything without at least two sources to back it up.

I haven't read the whole article, but I've personally met with the man, and honestly, I was impressed with his integrity. He gets a lot of information and works hard to sift out what is real, and what is conjecture.

"Proving" the fraud is really difficult; we know it happened, and we also know that some of it may have just been INCOMPETENCE. The level of INCOMPETENCE that was displayed looks intentional to me, but unfortunately the "I was stupid" defense is somewhat plausible. :(

Disclaimer: He interviewed me for the New Hampshire recount stuff, and bought me a bagel with cream cheese, so I'm prejudiced. :) ON EDIT: And I don't think he made me out to be a moron in his article, either, which I appreciated. :)
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:40 PM
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8. Hi Ida*** He may be a good guy, I thought his article was pretty agenda
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:41 PM by shance
driven, by that I mean it was a piece to delegitimize the very legitimate incidents (not coincidental)and actions that occured during this election, the 2002 election, and the 2000 election.

When we have 'liberal' journalists writing this stuff, I feel they are contributing to the corrupt practices and elections and voter problems at large we are trying to stop.

In other words, I don't take it lightly anymore when I read a rationalization piece like this and Ida, after what you went through in New Hampshire, neither should you, (bagel or not). With that being said, Mr. Baker may be a great guy and a qualified bagel retriever, that doesnt mean hes always an accurate writer. I take it perhaps even more personally when I see writers who are supposed to be objective and fair, when I find they too have the capacity to sell out, as we all do. Yet the price is so high these days when individuals choose to take the easier path, it makes it so much more difficult for the Barbara Boxers to stand up and the Stephanie Tubbs, and the Dennis Kucinich's.

When they invalidate the truth, which I feel he did in his article, he gives us one more granite step to climb again, and he hammers another nail into the coffin of Democracy. Dramatic? Yes. We don't have a lot of breathing room and space any more. We're backed up against a wall, and still I see so many people yawning and trying to get comfortable in the crampt space of freedom thats getting further shrunken. That's why articles like this cannot be shrugged off and overlooked in my opinion.

I love a good bagel and cream cheese myself, but I love good, well referenced articles better.
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Mistwell Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:45 PM
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10. How dare he not march in lock step and salute when commanded
It never ceases to amaze me that some folks here can be so closed minded as to nearly mimic fascism in their demand that others goose step to THEIR way of thinking or else they are fake Democrats, Freepers, and posers.

Russ has a lot more credentials than YOU to post what he thinks about this from his own Democratic perspective. To castigate him as false because he doesn't happen to agree with you on this issue is a pathetic and weak act.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:55 PM
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11. His own Democratic perspective? Thanks I prefer the facts and the truth.
How dare you post come to a post I create and say I am mimiking "fascism" when I am trying to do all that I can to prevent it.

So whoever you are, spokesman for Russ Baker or just antagonist by nature, accept the fact Russ Baker wrote an inaccurate, uninformed article.

Writing inaccurate, misleading articles that dismiss widespread voter suppression and fraud does volumes more for fascism that my little "credential-less" thread ever could.

By the way Mr. Credential lover, Im not writing articles saying the earth is flat, or uh, that voter fraud didn't happen and is just a figment of our imagination.

Im shedding some light where I believe some accountability is warranted.
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