Bush's psychiatric diagnosis, anyone ?

[steve2470]

Bush is a dry drunk, average intelligence Caucasian male who
suffers from a personality disorder characterized by prominent narcissistic and antisocial tendencies, coupled with recurrent grandiose religious ideations. It is likely that the patient has multiple soft signs of neurological damage secondary to a lengthy history of alcoholism. Patient complains about marital dysfunction and an uncontrollable desire to have anal sex with VP Cheney. However, patient's religious ideations co-occur with command auditory hallucinations telling the patient to lie to the American people about moral values.

Of course, you cannot really diagnose him unless you see him in person.

[Deja Q]

1. Schizophrenia, not sure which sube-type. Yet.

He's delusional and sees things. He speaks in an incoherent and inconsistent manner.

'nuff said, though if I bothered to look up the critera, it'd be easy to peg him. Even the counselors who peg people after knowing them for accumulated 90 minutes should be able to peg *, infinitely more accurately too.

[acmavm]

2. Sociopath through and through. Like something you would have seen

on X Files or Brimstone.

[babylonsister]

20. ...or above a subway grate when the institutions

were closed and hospitals no longer supported 'those' disenfranchised.

[steve2470]

81. kick nt

[Mr_Spock]

3. Reptile

Not a sentient being

[SlavesandBulldozers]

5. hahah nice

beat me to it.

[Crazy8s]

6. hey!

my iguana, Nicodemus, resents that comparison! I think shrub tends to display the intelligence and charm of a common sea slug.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

13. hey!

my pet sea slug resents that. ;)

[Mr_Spock]

18. hey!

"it's FAAAAAAAT Albert"

:D

[SlavesandBulldozers]

19. hahah nice

excellent transition.

[MadisonProgressive]

49. Now YOU just insulted common sea slugs everywhere!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

30. A reptilian sociopath, without any doubt. n/t

[pbartch]

42. He is this

[Eye_on_prize]

64. now you've insulted penises everywhere - there are many good penises n/t

[chomskysright]

4. here it is from a psychologist: Narcisstic Personality Disorder...

criteria: DSM IV:

a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need to admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contesxt, as indicated by 5 or more of the following:

1. has grandiose sense of self importance (exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievement)

2. is preoccupied with frantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

3. believe that he or she is 'special' and unique and can only be understood by, or should associated with, other special or high status people

4. requires exceessive adminration

4. has a sense of entitlement (THIS IS THE PREMIER ONE, THE RED FLAG THAT MARKS A NPD PERSON): unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic complaince with his or her expectations

6. is interpersonally exploitative...takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

8. is often envious of others or believes that others are enviour of him or her

9. shows arrogant, haughty behavior or attitudes

[flordehinojos]

16. Mary Shaw, in an article published at OpedNews.com entitled TheSociopathic

Bush Administration, seems to make the case for Bush as a Sociopath.

I think he may actually fit the criteria for SEVERAL psychiatric conditions ...something that most psychiatrist would say is impossible...yet with Bush, it happens!

below is the link to Mary Shaw's article if you'd like to read it.

http://www.opednews.com/shawMary_122104_sociopathic_bush.htm

[MadisonProgressive]

51. Everyone should read that article - chillingly true!

[joeunderdog]

78. And this: "Addiction, Brain Damage and the President"

First, in this essay, we will look at the characteristics of the so-called "dry drunk;" then we will see if they apply to this individual, our president; and then we will review his drinking history for the record. What is the dry drunk syndrome? "Dry drunk" traits consist of:

Exaggerated self-importance and pomposity
Grandiose behavior
A rigid, judgmental outlook
Impatience
Childish behavior
Irresponsible behavior
Irrational rationalization
Projection
Overreaction
Clearly, George W. Bush has all these traits except exaggerated self importance. He may be pompous, especially with regard to international dealings, but his actual importance hardly can be exaggerated. His power, in fact, is such that if he collapses into paranoia, a large part of the world will collapse with him. Unfortunately, there are some indications of paranoia in statements such as the following: "We must be prepared to stop rogue states and their terrorist clients before they are able to threaten or use weapons of mass destruction against the United States and our allies and friends." The trait of projection is evidenced here as well, projection of the fact that we are ready to attack onto another nation which may not be so inclined.

Bush's rigid, judgmental outlook comes across in virtually all his speeches. To fight evil, Bush is ready to take on the world, in almost a Biblical sense. Consider his statement with reference to Israel: "Look my job isn't to try to nuance. I think moral clarity is important... this is evil versus good."

Bush's tendency to dichotomize reality is not on the Internet list above, but it should be, as this tendency to polarize is symptomatic of the classic addictive thinking pattern. I describe this thinking distortion in Addiction Treatment: A Strengths Perspective as either/or reasoning-- "either you are with us or against us." Oddly, Bush used those very words in his dealings with other nations. All-or-nothing thinking is a related mode of thinking commonly found in newly recovering alcoholics/addicts. Such a worldview traps people in a pattern of destructive behavior.

more here...

http://www.counterpunch.org/wormer1011.html

[keepthemhonest]

28. if that does not sound like

our selected president i don't know wwhat does.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

7. "Bush On The Couch" is a MUST READ.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060736704.01._PIdp-schmooS,TopRight,7,-26_PE37_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

...from the Oedipal complex of the daddy who doesn't love him (a young and drunken Dubya challenges him to go "mano a mano") to the mommy he loves (but, alas, "Bar" is tougher than "Gampy," and she doesn;t love him either), Bush is SO clinically screwed up that if you read this book, you'll elevate to a new level of terror when contemplating the man with his finger on the button.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060736704/qid=1105141334/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/104-1011960-8117501

Editorial Reviews
From Publishers Weekly
Bush Administration policies are not only a "great catastrophe" but the products of a disturbed mind, according to this provocative blend of psychological case-study and partisan polemic. Psychoanalyst Frank sifts through family memoirs, the writings of critics like Al Franken and David Corn and the public record of Bush’s personal idiosyncrasies for clues to the President’s character, interpreting the evidence in the rigidly Freudian framework of child psychoanalyst Melanie Klein. He finds that Bush, psychically scarred by an absentee father and a cold, authoritarian mother, has developed a galloping case of megalomania, characterized by a Manichaean worldview, delusions of persecution and omnipotence and an "anal/sadistic" indifference to others’ pain, with removal from office the only "treatment option." The author’s exegesis of Bush’s personality traits-the drinking problem, the bellicose rhetoric, the verbal flailings and misstatements of fact, the religiosity and exercise routines, the hints of dyslexia and hyperactivity, the youthful cruelty to animals and schoolmates, the smirk-paints an intriguing, if exaggerated and contemptuous, portrait of a possibly troubled public figure. But Frank’s attempts to translate psychoanalysis into political analysis are unconvincing. Indeed, if Bush’s reneging on campaign promises is a form of clinical "sadism," and his budget deficits an "unconscious attack on his own parents," then Karl Rove, the Cabinet, and both houses of Congress belong in group therapy with him.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

Product Description:

"I don't spend a lot of time trying to figure me out. ... I'm just not into psychobabble."

-- George W. Bush

For all his simplicity and affability, George W. Bush has remained, to paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill, "a mystery wrapped in an enigma." In Bush on the Couch, Dr. Justin A. Frank, a well-respected Washington, D.C.–based psychoanalyst and professor of psychiatry, unwraps that mystery, assembling a comprehensive psychological profile of President Bush. Using the principles of applied psychoanalysis -- the discipline of psychoanalyzing public and historical figures pioneered by Freud -- Frank fearlessly builds his case ... and reaches conclusions that are at once highly persuasive and deeply disturbing.

Through a close analysis of Bush's public statements and behavior, as well as the historical record provided by journalists, biographers, and those who have known the president well, Frank traces the development of Bush's character from childhood to the present day. Examining closely the role of the president's parents -- especially Barbara Bush, an acknowledged disciplinarian whose own insecurities may have prevented her from adequately nurturing her son -- Frank finds in Bush's childhood the roots of a dramatic psychic split that remains a dominant influence on his adult worldview. Frank argues that this split has inevitably hampered Bush's ability to manage his emotions, charging his psyche with restless anxiety, and conditioning him to view the world in the black-and-white terms that have so evidently shaped his administration.

Among the other subjects Frank explores:

* Bush's false sense of omnipotence, instilled within him during childhood and emboldened by his deep investment in fundamentalist religion

* The president's history of untreated alcohol abuse, and the questions it raises about denial, impairment, and the enabling streak in our culture

* The growing anecdotal evidence that Bush may suffer from dyslexia, ADHD, and other thought disorders

* His comfort living outside the law, defying international law in his presidency as boldly as he once defied DUI statutes and military reporting requirements

* His love-hate relationship with his father, and how it triggered a complex and dangerous mix of feelings including yearning, rivalry, anger, and sadism

* Bush's rigid and simplistic thought patterns, paranoia, and megalomania -- and how they have driven him to invent adversaries so that he can destroy them

At once a compelling portrait of George W. Bush and a damning indictment of his policies, Bush on the Couch sheds startling new light on an administration whose record of violence and cruelty seems increasingly dependent on the unstable psyche of the man at its center. Insightful and accessible, courageous and controversial, Bush on the Couch tackles the question no one seems willing to ask: Is our president psychologically fit to run the country?

[steve2470]

8. I'll have to get that nt

[Wilms]

9. I bookmarked these two articles last year:

<http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_4687.shtml>

<http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml>

[Eye_on_prize]

10. The Madness of George W Bush - interesting website that lays this out

from a Jungian / Buddhist point of view.

http://www.awakeninthedream.com

There's more I'd like to say, but have to run for couple of hours. I'll try to check back later on this..

[SlavesandBulldozers]

11. auditory hallucinations?

probably. but there's also an earpiece in case his direct telepathic feed from hell cuts out.

[steve2470]

12. LOL nt

[catgirl]

17. Hears voices in his head

could it be Jesus himself? Did God make him do the
evil deeds that he does? I bet he whips himself at night.

[grasswire]

14. here's a Jungian analysis..

..I found the other day:

http://www.awakeninthedream.com/georgew.html

Snip:

The truth now needs to be uttered. George W. Bush is ill. He has a psycho-spiritual dis-ease of the soul, a sickness that is endemic to our culture and symptomatic of the times we live in. It’s an illness that has been with us since time immemorial. Because it’s an illness that's in the soul of all of humanity, it pervades the field and is in all of us in potential at any moment, which makes it especially hard to diagnose. Bush's malady is quite different from schizophrenia, for example, in which all the different parts of the personality are fragmented and not connected to each other, resulting in a state of internal chaos. As compared to the dis-order of the schizophrenic, Bush can sound quite coherent and can appear like such a "regular," normal guy, which makes the syndrome he is suffering from very hard to recognize. This is because the healthy parts of his personality have been co-opted by the pathological aspect, which drafts them into its service. Because of the way the personality self-organizes an outer display of coherence around a pathogenic core, I would like to name Bush's illness "malignant egophrenic (as compared to schizophrenic) disorder," or "ME disorder," for short. If ME disorder goes unrecognized and is not contained, it can be very destructive, particularly if the person is in a position of power.

In much the same way that a child's psychology cannot be understood without looking at the family system he or she is a part of, George Bush does not exist in isolation. We can view Bush and his entire Administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Ashcroft, Powell, Wolfowitz, etc), as well as the corporate, military industrial complex that they are co-dependently enmeshed with, the media that they control, the voters that support them, and ourselves as well, as interconnected parts of a whole system, or a "field." Instead of relating to any part of this field as an isolated entity, it’s important to contemplate the entire interdependent field as the "medium" though which malignant egophrenia manifests and propagates itself. ME disease is a field phenomenon, and needs to be contemplated as such. Bush's sickness is our own.



THE LIE

It is not that the threat of terrorism is not real, but that Bush's policies in dealing with terrorism are actually fueling the fire. A recent poll showed that the majority of Americans have finally recognized that the war in Iraq has actually increased the threat of terrorism. Talking about Bush's policies on terrorism and his pre-emptive invasion of Iraq, Al Gore says, "Instead of making it better, he has made it infinitely worse. We are less safe because of his policies…….the unpleasant truth is that President Bush's utter incompetence has made the world a far more dangerous place and dramatically increased the threat of terrorism against the United States." Bush totally fell into Bin Laden's trap. Bin Laden couldn't have imagined a better recruiting tool for terrorists than for Bush to invade Iraq. The way Bush is fighting terrorism is actually the very act which is invoking and creating more of it in the first place.

At the root of Bush's pathology is a deep dissociation. Like the terrorists, he has split-off from his own darker half, projecting the shadow "out there," and then tries to destroy this dis-owned shadow. By projecting the shadow onto each other, Bush and the terrorists are each seeing their own shadow reflected in the other. They see each other as criminals, as the incarnation of evil. By projecting the shadow like this, they locate the evil "out there," which insures that they don't have to recognize the evil within themselves. It's interesting to note that the inner meaning of the word mirror is "shadow holder." Ironically, by fighting against their own shadow in this way, they become possessed by the very thing they are trying to destroy, thereby perpetuating a never-ending cycle of violence. To quote C. G. Jung, one of the greatest psychologists of the twentieth century, "The psychological rule says that when an inner situation is not made conscious, it happens outside, as fate. That is to say, when the individual remains undivided and does not become conscious of his inner opposite, the world must perforce act out the conflict and be torn into opposing halves."

Symbolically, this is the repetition compulsion of the traumatized soul gone awry, to daemonic proportions, acting itself out on the world stage. To quote noted psychologist Rollo May, the daemonic is "any natural function which has the power to take over the whole person …..the daemonic can be either creative or destructive …..violence is the daemonic gone awry." The disease takes on a certain autonomy and literally possesses the person or group, as it is self-generating, self-perpetuating and self-organizing in nature, like a closed and negative feedback loop. The person who is taken over doesn't suspect a thing as the field secretly conspires and colludes with and enables their psychosis.

Jung simply refers to projecting the shadow as "the lie." It’s interesting to note that one of the inner meanings of the word Devil is "the liar." Projecting the shadow, to quote Jung, "deprives us of the capacity to deal with evil." Jung stresses the importance of consciously developing what he calls one's "imagination for evil," which is to consciously recognize one's potential for evil. This recognition means embracing and integrating one's dark side into one's wholeness, which is made up of both light and dark. If we have no imagination for evil, to quote Jung, "evil has us in its grip…….for only the fool can permanently disregard the conditions of his own nature. In fact, this negligence is the best means of making him an instrument of evil."

By projecting the shadow, Bush is unwittingly being a conduit for the deepest, archetypal evil to possess him from behind, beneath his conscious awareness, and to act itself out through him. At the same time, ironically enough, he identifies with the light and imagines that he is divinely inspired. He then believes that any action he desires is justified in the name of God, as he can rationalize it as being God's will. Unable to self-reflect, he is convinced of the rightness of his viewpoint, which he considers non-negotiable. This is a very dangerous situation, as Bush has become unconsciously identified with and possessed by the hero, or savior archetype. This figure is religious in nature, as it derives from the transpersonal, archetypal dimension of the collective unconscious. Being inflated with the hero archetype, he (archetypically) wants to save the world from evil and to liberate the planet.

[steve2470]

21. I wll read all of these articles later, i'm having too much fun reading

this thread :-)

[AntiFascist]

22. Excellent analysis

Jung is greatly underrated Never went for his archetype stuff much, though.

[Eye_on_prize]

26. why not? just curious. archetypes have been with us from petroglypys to

crop circles ... and i think provide links to parallel dimensions of consciousness. can u say what it is that you don't like about them.

[AntiFascist]

27. I'm not sure...

maybe it sounds too close to scientology or something. I like to think that people are more unique than that. Also, I don't go for all the Freudian bullshit.

[Eye_on_prize]

36. ya well, Freud is another whole kettle of fish - Jung very different..

..in that he tapped into some higher dimensional consciousness frequencies with his work, and really honored and incorporated a lot of wisdom from cross-cultural matrix. His work especially compatible with Buddhism, which interestingly is one of few 'religions' that has not championed war, but has instead stood for peace and compassion.

[AntiFascist]

37. Synchronicity and related ideas seem important nt

[Wilms]

38. That would explain the poor-rating. n/t

[steve2470]

80. kick nt

[slackmaster]

15. Amp case

:dunce:

[Last Lemming]

23. Dry drunk?

Who said he was dry?

[steve2470]

24. good point well taken nt

[DELUSIONAL]

25. devoid of empathy

Empathy seems to be innate in some people and also it is a family or cultural value.

The bush family is a text book example of a dysfunctional family -- and we are seeing these idiots playing out their family drama on the world stage.

Individuals don't stand alone -- they need to be evaluated in the culture and social group that they exist in. It seems like being crazy is normal for the bushie social group. His mother and father are crazy and so are his siblings. These folks are just not normal -- and they seem to assume that anyone who isn't as crazy as they are -- isn't "normal".

I use the word crazy because people who don't have a degree in psychology or whatever know a crazy person when they see on in action.

Lack of empathy is a serious character fault and it should bar him from election to any office -- other than prez of the people with lack of empathy club.

Lack of empathy is linked (by temperament trait researchers) to people who can only see the world in black and white and who can never see that the world also is made up of many shades of gray plus vivid colors.

[JoMama49]

39. I'm a social worker, and we know that empathy comes from

a connection with your very first caretakers -- a primary attachment to a loving, kind and nurturing parent. When that connection is not made, or is weak or dysfunctional, empathy, or the ability to feel another's pain, does not develop, nor does a moral conscience. If you don't feel empathy, you don't develop a sense of right and wrong. That's why I believe we have kids out there today who can commit heinous crimes and then go eat a hamburger like it was nothing. They do not have the capability to feel remorse I hope this is not the case with * , but who knows?

He strikes me as an FAS child (fetal alcohol syndrome), because I've seen quite a few of them. Children with this malady were exposed to massive amounts of alcohol before birth and their emotional development arrests in the adolescent years. They also tend to drink and take drugs themselves, have narcissistic and borderline personality disorders. If you ever saw the movie "Fatal Attraction", the Glen Close character was a prime example of someone suffering from borderline personality disorder -- it is the inability to have an identify of one's own and are often obsessed and compulsive about other people. Psychologists say that attachment disorder in children becomes borderline personality disorder when the child reaches the age of 18.
* definitely displays some kind of dyslexia or brain malfunction that you can hear in his spoken language.

[marew]

29. The statement...

"Of course, you cannot really diagnose him unless you see him in person" we know isn't true. We have many government agencies (CIA, FBI, etc.) who do personality assessments and profiles all the time. I've worked with psychiatrists who say an extensive social and developmental history gives more insight into personality (disorder) evaluations than test scores, etc. Maybe shrub's innate ability is average but with his pretty severe language/processing deficits his functioning is probably marginal (Remember the first debate? For him everything is "hard work" as he repeated incessantly). We know he doesn't, probably can't, read at more than an elementary level. I posted earlier that his mother made him work learning simple words printed on flash cards on Saturdays when he was 12 years old. He also blew up frogs with firecrackers as a kid. Even when he was gov. of Texas he was almost jubilant when talking about executions...he gets really excited and happy when others suffer. Saw that bizarre behavior when he's talked about the war too. Empathy and compassion, and many other desirable qualities, are foreign to him. I've read that his mother was emotionally unavailable to him as a child after the death of his sister from leukemia and no one was allowed to even talk about this tragedy in the home. Daddy was away working most of the time. Just shows what enormous power and money can do and how easy it is to fool people. "Bush on the Couch", written by a prominent Washington psychiatrist, addresses many of these issues.

[steve2470]

33. great post. I was always under the impression that to do a valid

psychiatric evaluation for clinical purposes, that the doctor had to see the patient in person. Am I wrong ? Serious question here.

[DELUSIONAL]

52. I've read detailed personality profiles of well know politicians

done by people who worked with the CIA (JF Kennedy's profile for example). So yes there are ways of doing really accurate personality profiles without meeting the person at all.

The FBI developed their own in house personality assessment methods after the CIA.

I've been trained in some of this personality assessment methodology. The dean of this work could take individually administered IQ tests with multiple scales and come up with an accurate description of this person. This psychologist could predict behavior -- how an individual would respond in specific situations.

Some of the Vocational tests can also be used as personality assessment tools. One thing I learned is that we aren't as unique as we think we are -- that's why advertisers target certain occupational or career groups -- we share similar interests and value systems.

Bush and his buddies are very predictable -- and their value system is completely alien to the majority of those of us who populate the DU virtual community.

[steve2470]

54. great post thanks ! nt

[truth2power]

68. Bush on the Couch author addresses that issue.

Explains how it's valid to do psychiatric evaluation of political figures. I can't remember the details and I no longer have the book.

[flordehinojos]

73. i think that no psychiatrist worth his ink would sign the psychiatric

evaluation of anyone they had not seen personally.(unless perhaps in a supervisory capacity in which case the psychiatrist, or psychologist, or social worker would be relying on the supervisee's account of the face to face evaluation with the patient/client).

[madison2000]

31. Dry drunk with narcissistic personality disorder

Madly in love with himself. :freak: :freak: :freak: :freak: :freak:

[keepthemhonest]

32. I can not help you in fisuring out * psycho analysis

However,maybe we should make presidents and elected officials have some type of personality test and be evluated before they can run.
just a thought.

[Beth in VT]

34. Is Peevishness a diagnosis or a symptom? Is there a cure? n/t

[steve2470]

35. personality trait ? nt

[grasswire]

40. well, there is a condition...

....called Oppositional Personality. It's a disorder. But I don't think it's exactly what you are driving at.

[steve2470]

41. yes true nt

[marcologico]

43. mental midget, suffers from Gepato's disorder (lying puppet syndrome) n/t

[Donailin]

44. definitely co-dependant who needs constant tutoring from Rove

three days before a public comment on the tsunami??

He probably is never allowed to go with most of his instincts. Paul Oniel said in his book that Bush reacted to a second round of tax cuts for the wealthy by saying, "Didn't we just give them a tax cut?" "Principles" replied Rove, 'we have to stick to principles"

there's a wealth of info out there on Bush. His mother neglected him during his formative years due to the death of his baby sister, Barbara was on narcotics much of the time. He would blow up frogs for fun, even into his early teens. His father who was never around would encourage unhealthy competive drive between his sons, forcing George to constantly feel inadequate compared to Jeb or Neil. And finally, he never had hardship in his life except that his parents were largely detatched from him.

For starters

[DELUSIONAL]

62. definitely -- he is only as good as his mentor

he is NOT a leader -- he really does need a mentor -- someone who tells him what to think and feel or not to feel. I laugh myself silly whenever some idiot called this fuckface a "leader" -- he can play a leader -- but he is NOT a leader. His actions on 9/11 is a perfect example of his NON leadership -- as is his behavior when he hears about the Tsunami. It takes the idiot 4 days -- his mentor (Rove) had to figure out a political angle - and probably the real leader -- Clinton forced him away from his bottle.

This is why he always screws up the "feeling" statements and can talk about death, dying, slaughter etc without tripping over his words.

The book -- Bush Dyslexicon -- is an excellent read. He isn't really dyslexic -- he has other lexicon mangling problems.

A cat would see through him in a minute -- and probably scratch him.

[foo_bar]

45. Borderline Personality Disorder

[Lostnote03]

46. Narcissistic!!!!!!.........n/t

[gordianot]

57. I do this for a living.

Yes!

Check your DSM-IV.

[Lostnote03]

63. ???

.....a lil help please....thanks

[gordianot]

65. Narcisstic Personality Disorder.

DSM-IV is the Diagnostic Statistical Manual.

The following is not from DSM-IV but is a good description. This man has been empowered to assume his Narcissism by family members, primarily parents.

1. Feels grandiose and self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents to the point of lying, demands to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion
3. Firmaly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions)
4. Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation -or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (narcissistic supply).
5. Feels entitled. Expects unreasonable or special and favourable priority treatment. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her expectations
6. Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends
7. Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with or acknowledge the feelings and needs of others
8. Constantly envious of others or believes that they feel the same about him or her
9. Arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes coupled with rage when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted.

Most narcissists (75%) are men.


Sorry source: http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php/type/doc/id/419

[Lostnote03]

67. Thank Gawd my PC is OK, however I am a still a male(75%)...lol...thanks

[MadisonProgressive]

47. I think his IQ is(was) probably above average

but when you never READ ANYTHING and surround yourself with quivering spineless YES MEN/WOMEN how can you put your intelligence to any use?

(BTW, I'm not complimenting him on his intelligence. Average is only around 90-100 I believe - mine's in the 130s and there are probably many much more intelligent people on this site than me).

[Karenca]

69. His IQ is 91,,, The most powerful man in the world, and his IQ is 91.

:dunce: .
Papa B*sh's is 109.
Not a family of the intellectually gifted.

[MadisonProgressive]

74. I figured his pop was smarter

but where did you get this info - link??

[grasswire]

79. I believe that IQ report was debunked

The "institute" that made the report on presidents' IQs turned out to be non-existent.

Here's the Urban Legends debunking:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm

[Generic Other]

48. Quit exaggerating!!

Average intelligence my ass!

[steve2470]

50. lol nt

[MadisonProgressive]

53. self delete

my bad!

[Truthbeknown]

55. He's just a little sissy rich boy

who would probably be laying in a gutter somewhere or would be the head turd over at the free repuke site, if it wasn't for his dad helping him get every job he ever had,including this one.He's just a puppet for this fascist regime we are stuck under.The real president is Cheney.He's the one they put in the bunker on 9-11,while shrub was being flown around the country and then I'll never forget him walking up to the White House all by himself,even the Secret Service didn't want to be near the bullseye on his back.What a dummy and to think we lost to this moron makes me want to puke.Oh,that's right,I fogot,we didn't lose,THEY STOLE THE FUCKING ELECTION.

[autorank]

56. Spoiled Rich Kid, Smart Ass Prick, with Tedious Personality Disorder.

Thus sprach autorank!

[steve2470]

58. anybody dare to go the FREEP site to see their reaction to this ?

nt

[Beth in VT]

59. how about hysterical - in more ways than one.

[pbartch]

60. what kinda sex with Cheney?

Oh.........."Anal" sex.

Yuck, what a horrible picture!

[SheepyMcSheepster]

61. interesting thread

booking marking for later.

[Lexingtonian]

66. Secret epileptic and immoralist

For the 'hidden' epileptic part, the evidence is there in Bob Woodward's book. The secrecy/'loyality' crap around Dubya, the medication regimen (typical for Topamax), the seizures and "accidents" and the 'religious' stuff (kinda indicatory of the temporal lobe kind).

Temporal-lobe epilepsy: Epilepsy that is characterized by abnormal electrical activity in the temporal lobe of the brain. This activity does not cause grand mal seizures; rather, it causes unusual behaviors and patterns of cognition. Temporal lobe epilepsy may, for example, cause sudden outbursts of unexpected aggression or agitation, or it may be characterized by aura-like phenomena. The seizures of temporal-lobe epilepsy often start in childhood. Temporal lobe epilepsy is difficult to diagnose because temporal lobe seizures may not show up on an EEG. The diagnosis may instead be made through observation of symptoms or the use of brain imaging technology. Temporal lobe epilepsy may be treated with the same antiseizure medications that are used for other forms of epilepsy. Surgery is also an option to control seizures and preclude unnecessary disability.

Temporal-lobe epilepsy is usually classified as simple or complex partial seizures. Simple partial seizures are characterized by a preserved awareness of self and surroundings (also known as an aura or warning). Patients commonly experience a variety of psychic, gustatory, olfactory, and autonomic symptoms.

Complex partial seizures are characterized by impaired awareness. Patients are disabled. They lose awareness and tend to have a motionless stare accompanied by automatisms -- stereotyped, repetitive, involuntary movements such as lip smacking, chewing, picking at objects, scratching, and gesturing.

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=18026

About what Topamax (tm) does to the average person:

Pros: You're more likely to lose weight than gain weight (although this is a bug, not a feature, for me and a few other people). The best med on the market for temporal lobe dysfunctions.  It really helps with the sensory integration problems in autism.

Cons: If you don't have a temporal lobe dysfunction or problems with other parts of your brain that Topamax hits, or you're at the wrong dosage, it will make you dumber than a box of rocks. The kidney stones aren't much fun.

(....)
Topamax is not for everyone, not just because of its other side effects, but because it hits your temporal lobes heavily, and the odds are your bipolar activity or epilepsy is not focused in your temporal lobes. This one extreme case illustrates the use of Topamax in bipolar disorder with temporal lobe dysfunction.  If you do have indications of temporal lobe disturbances, Topamax is usually best as an add-on medication. But for some people it can be effective as a primary mood stabilizer or antiepileptic. Besides the vaunted weight loss, Topamax is best known as Stupamax or Dopamax because it turns you into an idjit on drugs. It really is a supermodel drug that will make you skinny and stupid. Your memory will go down the toilet. You will experience mild aphasia, the inability to recall the correct word for something or calling something by a completely bizarre name. Your thinking will become fuzzy. And you had best drink lots of water, because Topamax is not extensively metabolized, is a weak carbonic anhydrase inhibitor, and is primarily cleared by your kidneys, so Topamax will give you a propensity for kidney stones. It gives me a couple small ones a year. I've found that trace mineral supplements and omega-3 fish oils helped to deal with the worst of the cognitive problems like the aphasia and stupid memory tricks I was getting until I hit the correct dosage.

For the first few months I was taking Topamax (topriamate) the intense and frequent déjà vu I experienced (one of the signs of temporal lobe damage) became jamais vu as the damage to the left lobe was being worked around. Jamais vu means the familiar will seem unfamiliar and out of place. Your stuff may not seem like it's your stuff for a few months. It may feel like people are moving your stuff around when that is not happening. I suggest not dusting to prove that nothing has been moved. Another weird effect is things seeming the wrong size. This will make grocery shopping a real adventure. So you come home with way too many carrots and not nearly enough potatoes, that's life on Topamax for your adjustment period. Really, those bizarre side effects just mean that the Topamax is working. Eventually it all gets straightened out and there's no more déjà vu and no more jamais vu and only French people get to see things in weird ways.

http://www.crazymeds.org/topamax.html

As for immoralism, I think we all know about the way he embraces that. Every fucking day.

[DELUSIONAL]

72. Well this could explain why he was grounded -- TANG terminated

Also why all the papers involving his service were destroyed -- with a few leaks.

A whole lot of people have enabled this rich frat boy -- anyone else would be drunk in an alley somewhere -- like Houston.

My bet is that he is still drinking -- all the alcoholics I know are sure that he is still drinking -- that he NEVER stopped.

He thinks he is a unique individual -- but he is very predictable.

My guess -- he will withdraw further into his safe circle. Remember how his campaign was so controlled? My guess -- his behavior is getting more and more unstable (another reason why he didn't come out of hiding for 4 days after the Tsunami). He (or his Mentor and puppet master) is getting rid of anyone who disagrees with him or knows how to play to his ego. He is withdrawing into his own world -- he never had much of an interest about how anyone outside of his tight social group lived -- and he has no interest now in learning about them now.

The next four years are going to be very rocky -- for the world.

His mentor may even convince him that he really has a "man date" and that he won.

He is an external person -- not much going on in his brain -- that's why he doesn't read. He has a short attention span -- that's why he has an ear piece and someone feeds him a few words at a time. (according to reports from translators who have worked for him).

He is devoid of empathy -- and his parents are to blame. His whole world is black and white -- he sees no shades of gray. He is NOT a leader -- he needs a Mentor and he can never exceed his Mentor. He can't see the beauty of a sunset -- he doesn't have the aesthetics gene. He is not creative and has no comprehension of the arts or artists drive. If someone puts a price tag on a painting -- that's what he can comprehend. He is not bright -- but he has picked up dirty political tricks from early Mentors. He is good at memorization -- but only things he is interested in. He has no interest or curiosity (scientific curiosity -- and no comprehension of the scientific method.)

He is not adaptable -- he is the same in all situations. His role throughout his life has been -- son of bush. Like it or not -- that is the only role he can play.

[Lexingtonian]

75. He is evidently deteriorating

so we're due more stories of accidents and decline in his faculties.

What pisses me off is not the hiding of the condition, whatever the particulars. It's his arrogance at and contempt of the world for letting him prevail against it. He can't see that the pathological state of the people who are his voters is contemptible as a political base, and that the mix of privilege and prostitution and disability was his true ticket to being the figurehead of an abusive, pointless, depraved misgovernment.

But that would assume lucidity, if not sanity, on his part.

[orleans]

70. PRICK-ISM

[steve2470]

71. kick nt

[earth mom]

76. Interesting thread

I've been reading some of this stuff about him this past year and even posted it at another board I post at and OMG did the freepers over there lose it when I did LOL! He is definately narcisistic and sociopathic. I didn't know his IQ previously, but it explains alot.

What I would love to see is him losing it somehow so that the public can get a glimpse at the real Dubya. I think people saw some of what he's really like when the tsunami hit and he didn't do a damn thing for days. Just a few more incidents like that and he may sink his own ship-wouldn't that be lovely?! :)

[steve2470]

77. kick nt

[sepia_steel]

82. INSANE IN THE MEMBRANE n/t