Anyone for starting the NEW Democratic Party? I'm done with the old one.

[sunnystarr]

We need a party that speaks with one voice. While positions may vary here and there, we have to take a stand on declared positions with leaders that support them and each other. I don't recognize those weak kneed Dems who don't have the courage of their own convictions and kiss the neocons boots.

We need a NEW, TRUE, Democratic party with Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Barbara Boxer, John Conyers Jr, Dennis J. Kucinich leading the way along with the rest of our representatives who had the courage to vote YAY!

[ladjf]

1. ;I agree. But, how could we get enough power to influence anything?

[BlueCollar]

2. look at this website

http://www.thelaborparty.org/

[GettysbergII]

30. Very nice, Blue Collar!

I'mn a Chicago public school teacher. I love the 16 point Call for Economic Justice. This is exactly what is needed.

[BlueCollar]

32. help spread the word

labor is the backbone of America. It's time to get our message out in front. I don't personally advocate tearing down the Democratic Party but in a capitalist society the Dems need to stand up for working men and women.

Thanks for being a teacher.

[autorank]

3. Sure, as long as this means taking over this Democratic Party

I refuse to live the rest of my life under the insanity of Republican rulers/misrulers. A fractured Democratic Party in our electoral system would guarantee that. Why not take over like the McGovern people did except do something with it that is really dynamic? That's what I say. We become, emerge into, lead with ideas and policies the Democratic Party.

[Justyce]

9. Exactly. Splitting us up further won't

help anyone but the repubs.

[autorank]

29. Right on sister Justyce!

[truthseeker1]

4. Count me in.

I'm in the market for a new party!

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[Mojambo]

7. Rudely dismissive often?

Geez.
Not very cool, IMO.

[sunnystarr]

8. Then how about taking over this one. WE are the party aren't we? (nt)

[Stand and Fight]

11. Hey! Hold up!

I don't agree with these people or the OP, but you've got no reason to take that tone! Read the posting rules bub. You're out of line and you know it.

[MoonRiver]

12. Wake up call!

The Repubs have already swept up, and Dems are now in the trash bin. We gotta change, and the sooner the better.

[truthseeker1]

13. Why don't you go back to yahoo or ivillage or wherever you hang out

where name-calling is allowed? It's not tolerated around here.

[Wilms]

15. Vote Multi-Party

If a Republican is sure to win, I vote green (with exceptions).

If a Democrat is sure to win, I vote green (they don't need me).

I only vote Dem when their in a tight race.

[Botany]

16. I copied this

But I like the POD party.

PISSED OFF DEMOCRATS

It high time we stop letting "our leaders" act like battered wives. "I have to
go back ..... I know he loves me."

You can not play nice with the bush group they lie, cheat, steal, slime, distort,
kill, and manipulate the facts to help only the ones they want. They also have the media in their pocket by in large.


POD party WE LOVE AMERICA TOO!

[Mojambo]

6. Only if we can call ourselves NuDies.

This is a dealbreaker for me.

[Bill MI]

10. Don't get mad, get LOUD!!!

We need to flood the Judiciary Repuglicans with e-mails, letters, and phone calls in order to get them to understand how important this is. They MUST hold FULL investigations with subpeona powers.

<http://judiciary.house.gov/contact.aspx>

The idiots have megaphones, but we have numbers!

The Senate Democrats were cowed, this time by their constituents, into doing what they should have done in 2000. We can't stop now. The ight has only begun!

[nashville_brook]

14. nope -- because life is (nasty, brutish and) short

and i'd rather pull established organizations in my direction. it just seems a better use of time. i'm not ready to re-invent the wheel just yet!

but i totally agree in the voice thing!

i watched the congressional black caucus deliver the debate yesterday, and i wanted to be be black (anyone remember Street Hassle?).

but here's the thing -- like elvis, and MLK, and Emminem -- The People yearn for this message, black and white alike. there is synergy here. there's a New Southern Strategy emerging. the foudnation is in place -- we need the election reforms -- and we need to capitalize on the election fraud along the way. we need to win THIS one. we need to stick together!

sunnystarr -- it's going to be a whole lot easier to bring them along with us than to turn the tide. please don't give up -- yet -- :)

our movement is still young, but check out all the great, constructive stuff that's going on on this board! join in -- we can use your energy,

here's my thing: we know that to be an elected democrat, you have to do waaaaay better than a mojority vote (factoring in the fraud). these politicians do not have it easy on the hill. the dems that we have up there are probably over-represented in terms of having real live supporters. lets not let THEM down.

[sunnystarr]

19. I'm willing to be loud and have my voice heard ... but they have

to really hear us. Those 5 dems that wimped out and left Barbara Boxer standing alone should be hiding their faces in shame. No matter what Boxer says publicly I know it stung her -- I could feel it through the TV. I was so disgusted at the disgrace. All the Dems had nothing to lose and they should have all voted YAY and really make a statement to the world and especially to their base.

I have to look up that Dem Senator (from Ohio I believe) who sided with the Repugs. I think we should all let him know we'd be happy to show him the exit door so he can officially join them.

Sorry guys I'm proud and excited and pissed off and disgusted all at the same time and it feels weird.

Guess I'll go to bed to sleep off this feeling.

[nashville_brook]

24. write boxer and the ohio dem and let them know how you feel

it matters a lot!

[Beth in VT]

17. We need instant runoff voting. n/t

[Padme Amidala]

28. We need it for the primaries too.

If people could have voted their conscience first and for their "electible" choice second, Dennis would have gotten a landslide in the primaries.

[ClassWarrior]

18. "We need a party that speaks with one voice."

AND THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO DIVIDE IT INTO TWO??

:crazy:

NGU.

[orleans]

20. this makes me want to

boycott the vote.
i know it's wrong--i've always voted
but in 2006 if/when nothing has been done to eliminate the republican bbv machines in all the states...why bother? and if it hasn't been corrected by 2008 then really why bother? we know jebbie will win no matter what.

boycotting the vote might show these dems that we're serious; they can't stand up for us...then guess what? we won't stand up for them anymore!

[helderheid]

21. YES

Join or start a progressive caucus in your state. Here is the link to ours in Utah:

www.udpc.org

Click here to find out info on your state:

http://pdamerica.org/caucuses.php

[orleans]

26. hey

thank you. silly me--i never heard of this but sounds promising. i went there and put myself on the email list

[Padme Amidala]

22. Good post.

This will also give Dennis and the good guys more visibility so that America realizes that they have the answers that will save America.

[DieboldMustDie]

23. Are you familiar with...

Progressive Democrats of America? :shrug:

[Shalom]

25. Why don't we get rid of the REPIG Party first ?

Start with the malignant cancer, not the benign growth...

[Padme Amidala]

27. It's not possible with a disunified group of cowardly followers.

Only a strong, courageous party can win against the Bush crime syndicate.

[ClassWarrior]

36. We need to build OUR party first - and you don't do that by DIVIDING it.

NGU.

[myschkin]

31. Good idea!

[Kevin Spidel]

33. PDA is taking over the party

using the shell of the party left at the state level and progressive caucuses are really making an impact! see www.pdamerica.org.

[LoZoccolo]

34. Nah.

You'd have to call it the "Republican" party, because that's who'd end up winning.

[catgirl]

35. Progressives will take over

the seed has been planted. I hope greens and progressive dems
can stick together for the next election. This will be the only way
to take the repugs down. I'm all for multiple parties, but look
what's happening. First we must take care of the repug disease.

I wish people would stop complaining about the dems so
much. We need to get to work. If the elections hadn't been
rigged, we'd all be cheering for Kerry and the rebirth of
our democracy. Don't let them get to us like this. WE
CAN PREVAIL & WE WILL!