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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:18 PM
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EVERYONE SHOULD REGISTER REPUBICAN BEFORE '06
I heard on the Randi Rhodes show yesterday a caller suggested that one way to beat them at their own game is for everyone to re-register and change your part to Republican. That way, they won't know where to short the machines or work their other slimy tactics. Since folks seem to be leaving the Democratic Party, why not join up as a Republican? That way, you'll get all their spam and junk mail too, and you'll know what their up to before Dems do!
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:20 PM
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1. And vote for a complete
dolt for the primaries!
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:28 PM
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8. I have been saying this for 4 years now
in fact, if polled I actually claim repuke. I figure that they can only steal elections if they know approximately how many votes that they have to deal with
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:39 PM
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51. Excellent Idea--Any Drawbacks? n/t
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:41 PM
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52. Yes.
In 2008, WE need to choose OUR nominee. I sure as hell don't want to leave that up to Iowans AGAIN!

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.16200506
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:17 AM
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15. They already tried that in 2000 and look what it got them! n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:47 AM
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33. no, vote for the best man for the primaries
that way we help control the outcome even if the big fix is in.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:43 PM
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53. LMAO- The pukes come up with dolts without any help from us
:eyes:
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:14 PM
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59. Wait until after the primaries.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:21 PM
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2. Yeah, but they'd still be able to tell where the actual dem votes
were coming from based on previous elections.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:51 PM
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14. This is right. They know where we are, regardless. nt
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boomboom Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:21 PM
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3. Ha! Utter genius. eom
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:47 AM
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34. I agree. n/t
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:21 PM
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4. I'll admit it's a good subversive strategy
but there's no way I could make myself do it. :puke:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:22 PM
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5. I've considered this, too
If nothing else, you'll screw up their plans for spending money on advertisements and visits.

Of course, this requires cooperation by liberals, which can sometimes end up like herding cats ;-)
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:23 PM
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6. sounds kewl would be awesome to F2ck with there heads
but they would just adjust the machines to match thier republican registies and win by 90 % or so lol

but what the hell Saddam won his last election at 100 % lol
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:24 PM
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7. I just couldn't
do it and be able to sleep at night. Maybe Green (likely) or Independent but an R?
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:30 PM
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9. We couldn't vote in the Dem primaries
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gaia_gardener Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:35 PM
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10. That's the hangup for me too
I know a lot of DINOs that are only registered dem so they can vote in the primaries because only dems run in their area.

It was tempting in my last district to re-register because my representative flat out told me I was democrat and therefore couldn't vote against him (because he ran unopposed) so he didn't care what I thought. Asshole!

But, in the end, I want to have a say for the national elections.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:10 AM
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40. Doesn't that depend on which state you are in?
I thought it did -- or is it that you can only vote in one primary regardless of what state you live in?
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Bill MI Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:37 PM
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11. Won't work
The Dems need to here from us!
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Bill MI Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:37 PM
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12. Don't get mad, get LOUD!!!
We need to flood the Judiciary Repuglicans with e-mails, letters, and phone calls in order to get them to understand how important this is. They MUST hold FULL investigations with subpeona powers.

<http://judiciary.house.gov/contact.aspx>

The idiots have megaphones, but we have numbers!

The Senate Democrats were cowed, this time by their constituents, into doing what they should have done in 2000. We can't stop now. The Fight has only begun!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:43 PM
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13. interesting idea
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 11:43 PM by orleans
something to think about
might also send a message to the democratic party that makes it sit up and say: "oops!"
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:27 AM
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16. especially computer programmers
hee hee hee
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:30 AM
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18. Another suggestion: No one should ever vote on a paperless machine
again! Do all states have Absentee ballots? That's how I voted this time, and I think we should all refuse to touch a machine next time - vote Absentee or don't vote at all, but don't vote on a machine! BOYCOTT THE MACHINES!
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:46 AM
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23. you missed my point
If they think our programmers are infliltrating the party, they won't know who to hire to manage the vote stealing machines.

First we get attrition, then paranoia. We might get some clean election bills passed pronto.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:31 AM
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27. EXCELLENT IDEA
Paper or not at all.
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:01 AM
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35. Our absentee ballots are punch cards!!
in Jefferson County, WV
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:03 AM
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36. here I am...
but the thought makes me :puke:

I don't think I could pull it off and I couldn't vote in the primaries then. Maybe we could switch to GOP before the general and back afterwards--every time.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:30 AM
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17. They will justify the next election theft with the #'s of new Re-uglicans!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:41 AM
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19. What about independent registration instead?
They won't know which way the vote is going then.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:07 PM
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47. Can an Independent vote in the Dem and GOP primaries? (nt)
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:27 PM
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57. I don't think so.
You'd have to register for statewide and general elections.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:42 AM
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20. That should really freak them out. I love it.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:43 AM
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21. How about half do that
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:53 AM
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25. specifically
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:46 AM
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22. Very, very clever.
The thought had crossed my mind too. Hard enough to get people to register in the first place, though. Heads might explode.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:49 AM
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24. Like asking me to pretend I'm a pedophile
The thought makes me shudder. They probably make you drink blood as a test of party loyalty.
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Buck_Fush Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:53 AM
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26. you know, i tried that during the campaign
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 05:43 AM by Buck_Fush
it was really obnoxious though. I pretended to be a gung ho repuklican, thinking I could demonstrate the error in their ways by taking it to extremes even they could not tolerate. Instead, I discovered there is no limit to their extremism. For instance, on the abortion issue, I took the stance that life begins with intention, therefore, any woman who refuses sexual intercourse with a man is guilty of murdering the potential child he could have impregnated her with. You know what? They buy any stupid shit you throw at them.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:32 AM
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28. HAHAHAHHA
It is so true.
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:53 AM
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29. um...okay...
wtf ever. I will not be registering as a republican. Then how the hell will I vote for my own primaries. What if Loserman decides to run again, or worse Hillary. How will I be able to vote who I want to run in the primary's? This is a stupid idea. Randi sure has come up with alot of them.
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RollergirlVT Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:11 AM
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30. One problem I see
is in doing so, when the dem politicians see their support going to the repugs they'll start becoming even more republican. They are already talking about rethinking choice. Imagine what would happen if it appeared as though we all joined the dark side.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:23 AM
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42. agreed --I think there are a lot of ways this could backfire
many have been mentioned already

As much as I admire RR for speaking her mind, gotta be critical of what comes out sometimes. Posing as Republicans in order not to be abused as Democrats--as a large-scale strategy--is a loser. Think it through. It's great in theory only. Do you really think big swings of voters would be credible? They'd be labelled pseudo-Republicans and treated the same way.

This idea comes out of a victim mentality. It further obscures who we are and what we stand for. Pretty soon you can't tell what's real. I think we are MUCH stronger standing together openly and fighting for our ideals.

Anyway --in this forum-- I thought we are trying to argue that the Democrats either won or came much closer to it than it appears. And as we all know in politics, margins matter. We Dems and Greens and Libs are meant to lead the vote protection battle now. Some Republicans will join US on that. There are still some Pubs who don't want a rigged system.

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On the other hand, (jomama's idea here)--something could be done with the idea of refusing to vote on auditless voting machines within an insecure and ridiculously vulnerable system--we have a right to this--it's basic to protect the vote..ANYBODY's vote. I think a voting machine boycott is an excellent idea, to get visibilty to the problem.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:27 AM
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31. In Ohio you only become registered for a party when you request a ballot
for the primaries. I encourage all Ohio dems to vote the GOP primary to vote against Blackwell for governor.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:27 AM
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32. freepers read this-SPECIAL FORUM INVITATION ONLY
I don't mean to be exclusive, but certain ideas need to saved for the believers and not those lurking to bring us down. I have not been posting long enough to know if this is possible, but consider this: after a certain number of posts, a DU member could petition the moderators for inclusion to this special forum. It would keep planning for our eyes only. any comments?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:25 AM
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37. There is a string on that subject on this page
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 09:27 AM by Jersey Devil
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x268414

oops! Just realized it is YOUR string. Embarrassment time.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:33 AM
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38. not realistic IMO
--don't think you can stop freeping this way. "True Believers" is ALWAYS a slippery slope....

--of course you can brainstorm outside DU but at some point if an idea is going to reach many people you have to let go of those fears

--as long as your idea is legal, why worry? The other side will be expecting it anyway
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:08 AM
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39. I think this is a good idea
If nothing else it will cause chaos and confusion-- which at this point can only be a plus IMO
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:19 AM
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41. In my state
you don't register by party. There is nowhere on the registration form or cards indicating party.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:50 AM
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43. well that is silly from some smart people
like they already know the bigger city poorer neighborhoods and black skin tend to vote dem. a black isnt going to hide that, wink. city dweller still going to have to vote in their precinct. female still gonna have two boobs sticking out
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Smirking_Chimp Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:10 AM
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44. Great Idea, time to beat them at their own game.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:00 PM
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45. Is the misspelling deliberate? Cuz I like it!
RePUBican

We can call them the Repubes!!!

Pubes - heh heh heh

I'm sorry , I have the cheapest sense of humor, I can't help it :P
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:03 PM
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46. I actually do this for mid-term primaries. Here's why.
My district leans heavily towards Republican. The Republicans field a variety of candidates while the Democrats are lucky if they can get one person per race. The DEC here has been in disarray for years. New chairman, so hopefully the tide is turning. As a registered Republican I can vote in the primaries and hopefully get more moderate Republican candidates into the general election.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:21 PM
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48. I'm not sure...but, what about going INDEPENDENT:

(if you can in your state).

Then don't you get to vote in BOTH primaries?

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:31 PM
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49. That is a fantastic idea! Course they will probably run a little
program against the files they have stolen of our enrollment and factor it in. Curses!!
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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:32 PM
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50. I've been thinking about this too. In fact, I will probably register as..
a Republican just to make sure my vote counts next time around. (It didn't this time).
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VAMom Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:58 PM
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54. What about registering as an Independent
Won't that allow us to vote in all primaries?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:02 PM
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55. Do you know why that would backfire?
Because they would be able to correlate the Republican votes with the registrations and use that as proof. See we have more registered Republicans and they all voted for Joe Republican, nothing more to see here, move along.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:38 PM
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56. The best things for the everyday voter to do.
Things the "average voter" can do. This doesn't include all the activist things you can do, like voting early and then going to other states where there have been troubles before, writing policy makers, or volunteering as a poll watcher. This is just what you can do as an individual, with little or no committment, and these things you should encourage all your friends to do.

1) Vote in local elections and primaries to make sure your name doesn't get thrown out of the books. Build up a voting history for yourself. Immediately deal with any name changes, changes of address, etc. with the town clerk, and try to do so in time to test your registration by voting in a local/primary election.

2) Vote by paper ballot if you can and you are in a precinct where there are DREs or where the punchcard/opscan/etc results were iffy. Apply for the paper ballot as early as you can, and if you don't have it two weeks before the election, start complaining.

3) If you have any problem or suspect anything wrong, don't just report it to the BOE, don't just post it on DU or on some small blog. Do those things. But mostly report it to as many of the major voter protection groups as you can find. It's been estimated we only have 1/100th of the complaints that were made to poll workers on file.

4) Know what the correct procedure for everything is -- signing in voters, assigning party ballots, collecting absentee ballots, etc. If any town official, or the pollworkers on election day, are doing something wrong, tell them, and then go back home and report them, whether or not they say they will fix it. A voter protection group can probably tell you what the procedure at your site will be.

5) Vote a complete ballot, unless you really really cannot stand all the available candidates, and be very careful to do everything right. If you really want to undervote, do it by voting a write-in. Then check the results to make sure your write-in appeared.

6) Above all else, if there is a voter verified ballot you can look at before casting it, doublecheck it. If not, make very, very sure that your votes are correct on any summary screens.

7) When waiting in line to vote, talk to the people next to you about how you are going to report any problems. Don't talk about partisan matters, just how you don't trust the system. They may think you are paranoid, but when they get into the booth, they'll be thinking about what you said nonetheless.

8) Before the election, record any calls you get about where or when to vote on your answering machine. Try to get a caller ID and take notes if you take the call in person. Have a camera ready by the door, and if someone comes by and knocks on your door, ask them to take their picture with you. Or if they are obviously snakey, take their picture anyway. If you feel up to it, follow them until they get into a car and take the license plate number.

9) Be on the alert for posters or fliers that give out wrong voter information. Take a picture of them or anyone distributing them, then tear them down and keep them as evidence.

10) Take a picture of the lawn signs on your street, especially if you live in a small precinct. Enough pictures from the same precinct can be convincing evidence that the vote count isn't right. Do something to your own lawn sign that makes life miserable to anyone who steals it.

11) If you are approached by an exit poller or called for a telephone poll, take the survey, and answer all questions honestly.

12) If you are out of town for any amount of time before the election, have family or a neighbor check your mail regularly, and have them open and read to you anything election related.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:35 PM
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58. They can still electronically steal your vote!
In fact, that already seems to have happened to many Republicans who tried to vote against Bush this time.

Remember, the part of Ohio where the vote counting was done in secret under a bogus "terrorism alert" was actually the most Republican part of the state!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:19 PM
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60. you'd have to change after the primaries to be able to vote for a decent
Dem. candidate. Then they'd get suspicious.

We should all vote absentee and agitate to have the party affiliation off the outside of the envelope. That way they can't conveniently disappear before they are opened. How many states allow absentee ballots without an excuse?
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