Is it time for a new party?

[truthpusher]

edited from an earlier post

Is it time for a new party?

I have been fantasizing lately about what would make up my ideal political party. like many folks here, I have been turned off lately by the Dem's with the exception of these folks: http://shadowbox.i8.com/patriot.htm

It would be great if all the Democratic leaders could show the values of Boxer, etc. - but I'm not so sure. Many of our elected leaders (Kerry may be in this camp) are career politicians who are much more interested in besting themselves within the system. They don't listen to those who elected them, or in Kerry's case - wanted them elected. Kerry was not listening to those who wanted him elected, if he was, he would have challenged in Ohio - he obviously is not listening.

Boxer stood up because we asked her to; she listened to what we had to say; she understood what we had to say; she became our voice.

I want my leaders to have guts.

I want my leaders to be inside the system working for me - I want them listening to me - I want them looking out for me.

Party Values (I wrote these pretty quickly, please add):

--every vote, no exception.
--Power moves toward the people, not away.
--Corruption will not be tolerated.
--Actions will be promoted through the mobilization of the people.
--The lobbying system will be ignored.
--Constant communication to and from the people from all elected officials (a community communication web-site like DU would be ideal).
--No platform on specific issues - all issues will be encouraged by the people with the input of elected officials.
--Elected officials will be utilized as an inside voice within the system.
--When a partisan issue is put forth for a vote in the house or senate, Party members will only vote if there has been encouragement from the people.

This is not a protest of the Democratic party. They work with what they have. Boxer and others like her, sadly, are a rarity. One could only hope that times are changing.

[ClassWarrior]

1. If you're talking about a kegger, I'm all for it.

Otherwise, look here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=267355&mesg_id=267355&page=

NGU.

[moggie12]

2. Don't give up on Dems yet

Stay around for a while longer and see what happens with election reform.

Boxer was the only one to vote against certification, but:

1) Reid backed Boxer's decision
2) Reid, Durbin, Stabenow, Kennedy, Wyden, Lautenberg, Clinton, Harken, Obama, and Dodd stood in the Senate and argued for election reform

I cam only imagine how disappointed, frustrated & angry you are, but they weren't being cowards. We're in a war with the GOP and this was a tactical decision. What looks like ironclad proof of fraud to some looks like smelly rotten fish but no fraud to others. If we had a smoking gun, and you-know-who didn't have an almost 4 million popular vote margin, we would've gone to war (ummm, at least I think we would've).

Anyway, in the meantime, while you're making your decision about staying or not, help teach those Republicans a lesson. If you haven't already done a bunch of things to support Barbara Boxer and help the Dems win the fight to get true election reform, here's a link that provides a bunch of suggestions for how to do so:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1478105&mesg_id=1478105

Hope you decide to stay, but understand why you might go.

[truthpusher]

3. Not necessarily wanting to go...just wanting a better party. n/t