Still wondering about the MSM "Lockdown"?

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

On edit, before the bit, I'd like to ask you to include in your repsonses whether today's "Coverage Vacuum" doesn't really indicate a complicity, or if this is truly an indicator that the Corporate-Run-Media is saying they will not report news anymore?? moreso than "what we can do" about it... Having full faith they _are_ is the first important step, after that comes stratergerization!

---

Rather than go to church, I watched the Sunday morning News Discussion shows. They included xNBC's "The Chris Matthews Show" (starring "That Guy From Hardball" as "a less shouty, more sunday-go-to-meeting man"), CBS' "Moon Face The Nation", and "Meet the Press", with Tim "Bills vs. Bush? Bill's get the mandate!" Russert.

"Meet the Press", currently in their 58th year, is the longest running program on network television, which I presume means ALL television, cable, satellite, telegraph, etc., perhaps even in the whole world.

From: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3403008/
Every Sunday morning for 57 years strong, in times of peace or war, "Meet the Press" is welcomed into the homes of Americans to analyze, discuss and review the news of the week -- and to look ahead to the week to come -- with world-renowned guests.

We are proud to be the highest rated, most watched and most quoted Sunday morning public affairs program. An average audience of 5 million viewers join us each week to share in a national dialogue about the important issues of our time.

In my recollection, since November 2, 2004, there has been no mention on MTP about the election irregularities, the Ohio recount, or anything. If there was, I missed it.

But today's MTP (transcript here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6805000/) did not mention that little thing that happened on Thursday at all.

The pressure to keep Tim from this actual real story about "America" must be OVERWHELMING. The historic aspect of this alone could tug Tim away from the a Bill's game (well, maybe pre-season;)), and yet the ramifications of all this had Tim and his guests almost "talking around" the congressional objection.

It's one thing for MTP/Russert to cave in to the arugment that there was no "real news stories" about events during the previous two months, but today makes me think there really-really-really _is_ some kind of serious pressure on any MSM to "not bring it up at all"

I would hazard a guess that of all MSMers Tim Russert must really be secretly ashamed of himself for the forced complicity he is adhering to.

The only thing WORSE I can imagine is if we'd be hearing the same silence today if, on Thursday, somehow the challenge PASSED!

So is this confirmation that the MSM is beyond the pale in an obvious absence of any notification (might as well call it as it actually is, considering all they really do is notify us of a new WH press-release) and can we finally call their coverage an "Election Vacuum" or maybe even an "Election Blackhole"?

It's one thing for pinko-commie-internets-loving-nigbloggers and hepped-out-frothing-at-the-mount-partisan-soreloser-lawyers to get ignored... but the freaking CONGRESS being ignored??

I Believe!! -- that I am very scared... :(

I shudda gone to church,
FULL_METAL_HAT

[steve2470]

1. underscores my repetitive point here at DU and the need for

media diversity.

[rumpel]

5. whatever happened to Gore's attempt of creating a liberal media

outlet?
I am all for creating a 1200 radio station conglomerate for the "real" news "without fear or favor" as LA Times boasts.

[BlueEyedSon]

33. WaPo: Al Gore's INdTV: The People's Programmer

Al Gore's INdTV: The People's Programmer

By Richard Leiby
Tuesday, January 4, 2005; Page C03

Tuning in to Gore TV: Little is publicly known about the cable news network planned by almost-president Al Gore except that it will be called INdTV (say it like "indie"), aims to wow the youth market, has set up shop in San Francisco and is supposed to launch this year. But what kind of shows will it carry?

We've received a glimpse of some of the programming envisioned by INdTV execs, who just sent out an e-mail to prospective "digital correspondents," seeking edgy video submissions to serve as pilots. Gore's programming gurus say they hope to "democratize television" by relying on Generation Y contributors and "real-life video." An insider cautioned us yesterday that the e-mail represents just a sliver of the conceptual pie, but the potential must-see lineup includes:

more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45826-2005Jan3.html

[flyarm]

6. nahhhhh...

russert just cashes the check each week..he doesn't give a rats crap..none of them do...

and what can we do about it..well if 59 million people turn them off...i think we would get sonewhere..yes i know..know what then oposition says..well we can get all that we want on the net...shut the liars off...dont give them ratings...and then when the journalists ( ha) loose their ratings and they are getting heat..they can turn the heat back at the networks...or they can be replaced...too much money in these shows..the network jockeys dont like low numbers...

just shut them off and keep them off!!dont budge!!

fly

[OldLeftieLawyer]

14. Do one thing

Contact the local station and tell them you're not watching anymore, and why.

That speaks to their advertisers.

[Turbineguy]

2. OK, I give up

what's "MSM"?

[yorgatron]

3. Main Stream Media

MSM

[shraby]

4. Main Stream Media

[KittyWampus]

7. MSM Is A Poor Substitute For The More Accurate CCM

Corporate Controlled Media.

No offense meant to the opening poster intended.

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

19. none taken -- I used MSM over others for clarity...

Well, I guess not _real_ clairity as in the real world they are not worth discussing at all...

[Turbineguy]

26. Thanks for the explanation

It pays not to miss a single day on DU. One never knows when a new acronym comes along!

[TripleD]

35. I've always called them the corporate media

There's nothing "mainstream" about the narrow corporate interests that they serve.

I think that "mainstream" is a bit of a misnomer since it implies populism. This is a term that the RW media coined themselves to help them frame the debate. Their radical ideology will never be "mainstream" no matter how much of the public airwaves they control.

To me they will always be the corporate media.

[Cobalt Violet]

8. Maybe their all getting Bu$hCo. checks like Armstrong Williams. n/t

[OldLeftieLawyer]

11. Off the subject

But that's a marvelous picture in your message, and I've been meaning to ask you for so long - what is it? It's quite beautiful.

And do you think - honestly - Armstrong Williams will slink away in disgrace and shame, as he should?

(I confess, that was a trick question.)

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

22. Pretty Pictures cover Sinister Scenarios

From: http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Total_Information_Awareness

The Information Awareness Office is a branch of the Department of Defense's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency whose mission is to "imagine, develop, apply, integrate, demonstrate and transition information technologies, components and prototype, closed-loop, information systems that will counter asymmetric threats by achieving total information awareness." The IAO is headed by John Poindexter, former National Security Advisor in the Reagan Administration and chief architect of the Iran-Contra Affair.

Their logo is very pretty with that charming all-seeing-eye:


The much-discussed original and the new, less frightening "sanitized" version:


And this outlines how joggers are effected by TIA:


If you're not a jogger, I'm not sure what it means! ;)

---

As to that Weakwrist guy, at least it shows that the glass ceiling Black's have traditionally faced in wielding power is finally broken and they're just as useful as any white man when it comes to ripping off democracy! YES that is SARCASM!

[MadLinguist]

37. Oh yes, Poindexter, famed of the Iran-Contra Affair

Admitted to the W. Hall of Twisted Mirrors for contributing to information awareness.

[Cobalt Violet]

24. I thought I PM-ed you but I think I sent a reply email instead.

The details of my signature, that is. :shrug:

[OldLeftieLawyer]

30. You did, and I thank you!

You're an incredibly talented artist. It's a beautiful site.

Thank you.

[liberal N proud]

16. Now that would be a scandale to uncover!

It would be something that could sink all of them at once from the shrub him self through kkkarl rover and the media conglomerates as well.
The money trail would be all the proof one would need to get them all.

[BrklynLiberal]

9. How about going the media list and inundating them with emails

demanding to know why there was not one word of coverage????

[OldLeftieLawyer]

10. If blame is to be ascribed ........

If there is one single entity that can take credit for allowing Fuckface and his White House Squatters to take over as they have and to behave with the unbelievable impunity and sense of entitlement they've exhibited, it is the mainstream media.

I just read that the Washington Post donated $100,000 to Fuckface's Inaugural fund. Can anyone possibly find that proper or ethical? A newspaper donating even one lousy cent to the inauguration of any President? I find it repugnant and just another example of how the M$M has completely abdicated its role in the maintenance of our Republic.

I'm old enough to remember when two reporters for the Post - Woodward and Bernstein - got the backing of their ballsy editor, Ben Bradlee, and their even ballsier publisher, Katharine Graham - to go after the President of the United States. I remember when those same executives made the decision to print the Pentagon Papers.

I remember when newspapers didn't kiss poliical ass the way they do now.

When the revolution comes, I hope I'm around to see a new generation of brave, honest, truthful reporters take it all away from these sycophants who don't have the integrity or spine to tell everything to the American people.

[stellanoir]

15. Hey Old Lefty. . .

"Fuckface and his White House Squatters"

Gotta love your "legalese".

[OldLeftieLawyer]

21. Let me guess

You weren't sure who I was talking about, were you?

:)

[stellanoir]

27. oh your subtle gift of nuance was completely

obscure. . .they'll never get you on libel or defamation for that one.
: )

[Blue_In_AK]

28. You ROCK, Old Leftie

I remember those Woodward-Bernstein days, too, and I agree wholeheartedly that the journalists nowadays (except some of the ones on the internets) are pathetic.

[Fly by night]

55. My letter to the Washed-Up Post, when they drank the Blackwell kool-aid

regarding the "recount":

To the editor:

Your recent AP article implies that a recount just occurred in Ohio to determine who won the Presidential race in that state. Nothing could be further from the truth. In a seriously compromised recount, there appears to be not even one OH county that recounted according to the law. Ohio law states that recounts should proceed as follows:

1) Precincts should be chosen randomly (and not ahead of time) to prevent any hanky-panky
2) Tampering with (or even access to) the voting machines ahead of the recount should not be allowed
3) The entire votes in the counties should be recounted by hand when the machine tallies differ from hand count tallies by even one vote in the recount
4) Access to poll books should be freely allowed and not restricted in any way
5) Recount watchers should be allowed in the same rooms as the recounters, allowed to ask pertinent questions, etc.
6) Computer techs who were found to be tampering with the vote counting machines should be allowed to be questioned fully, without those questions being cut off by suddenly-in-a-hurry Republican local election officials
7) Voting machines should be available for inspection by qualified computer techs to ascertain the source codes, computer logs, communications with external sources and other evidence of tampering.

No Ohio county followed the Ohio laws that govern recounts. Thus, the Ohio recount was as much a charade as the original "reported" vote in Ohio. And now Ohio's Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell is seeking protection from being required to testify under oath regarding what he knew, and when he knew it, regarding the election theft in Ohio and the rest of the country.

Folks, this isn't a "third rate" burglary -- it is a violent gang-rape of our democratic process. Where are our Woodwards and Bernsteins -- our Washington Post -- when we really need them?

Most assuredly,

Me

[OldLeftieLawyer]

61. Ever hear back from them? n/t

[Fly by night]

62. Not a peep. But I did send a copy to Cliff Arnebeck, who said "thanks"

[davidgmills]

57. Memories

I believe we just have to turn them off.

I quit watching the news when it became obvious they were going to support the war.

We have to just turn them off.

We get our news on the internet now.

They are history. They deserve it.

We have to get our information the old fashioned way now. We have to read it not see it.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

60. Yep

We still subscribe to the Post, but mostly out of habit. It's our local paper, so to speak, and I like the Wednesday Food section.

But, for news, first there's the BBC, and, after that, a lot of wonderful alternatives - none of them major media outlets based in the US.

Shame on these people. SHAME on them.

[fooj]

12. Yes. I watched it as well! I found the segment on PROPAGANDA

humorous...Oh my- not using the media to spread propaganda!!! They all seemed insulted...I could gag! I'm e-mailing Russert and asking him why he thought Jan 6th wasn't significant. Talk about propaganda machine!

[stellanoir]

13. yeah

they broke up Ma Bell as a monopoly and harrassed Bill Gates for years for the same thing but the corporate control of the MSM continues ad nauseum.

I watched MTP and FTN and switched between This Week with "Stepontopofthis" and Fox News Sunday (yuck), they were mostly justifying the inhumanity of torture and there was nary a peep about an event that hadn't happened since 1886 (?). T

Am thinking about checking out the nearest UU church on Sunday mornings after spending almost every Sunday morning watching the snooze shows since '99. Time to give up on the bobble heads and be around real folks for sure.

[Blue_In_AK]

29. UU church

I haven't been in a while, but there's one down the street from us and it's Packed every Sunday morning. I see that as a good sign.

[BrklynLiberal]

17. Herre is the letter I wrote to Meet the Press

Their address is [e-mail]

How could you have had an entire show and not had one word about the historic proceedings in Congress on January 6, 2004?
All you did was provide a convenient photo-op for Bill "make sure you get some devastation in that shot" Frist.
This was only the second time in the history of this country that there was an offical objection to the electoral vote count. There were alegations of massive voting irregularities in Ohio. For you not to have mentioned it at all is not just an embarrassment, it is a disgusting oversight.
You have no business calling yourself a journalist.
"Meet The Press" can no longer be called a news show

[MadLinguist]

36. Hey Brooklyn! Good Whopping

That's what all these absurd little lapdogs need. I wish we could place giant placards with letters like yours in front of their cameras every time they come on the air to broadcast more pap.

[IndyPriest]

44. I just wrote them, too. WTP is not passing the smell test.

Thanks for the link.

[YvonneCa]

52. I wrote them this morning, too.

Here's my email:


Dear Mr. Russert,

As a long time viewer of Meet the Press, I have always found your program to be enjoyable, but more importantly, educational. I always learn about issues important to the American people by watching your show. (Since I am also a teacher, the educational part has always been important.) As a John Kerry Democrat in 2004, I have been very concerned about the direction of our country. After the 2000 election, I decided to take action on my concern by working to elect a Democratic administration. After 2004, I’ve decided to take action by writing to media organizations, in the hope that someone there is listening and will endeavor to educate the public on issues of concern.

After watching Meet the Press today, I have two issues of concern: 1) Media Responsibility, and 2) Social Security.

1. Media Responsibility- While I was glad to see your round table discussion on Armstrong Williams and NCLB, and the way in which the media manipulates the public, you only touched the tip of the iceberg. I think it is true that the public, in general, may have difficulty knowing who is truly a journalist, who is a pundit, who is entertainment, etc. However, you missed the fundamental point that paying for this media coverage to Armstrong Jones is probably illegal. If, as Al Hunt states, there are more instances of this, why doesn’t the media have some responsibility to talk about that angle of the story? It’s not just about you (the media). Taxpayer dollars are being used to manipulate public opinion. You have GREAT responsibility to cover that story, if you are the “journalists” you profess to be. You also have a critical responsibility to choose important stories to cover within your allotted time on air. C-Span covered the Electoral College Vote on January 6th, and to NBC News’ credit, you did mention it on Nightly News. These are the kind of stories I, and the American public need to be educated about if we are to make intelligent, educated choices when we go to the polls to vote, whether it’s for president, governor, mayor or dog catcher.

2. Social Security - Since it appears that the Bush Administration intends to privatize Social Security, I hope the media will fulfill its responsibility to educate the American people on this issue IN DEPTH. There are several points which I almost never hear made: First, that during the Clinton Administration, because of the surplus gained through his economic policies, this problem had been temporarily solved for our generation. It is only due to the incompetence ( or purposefulness ) of this administration that this issue is on the table at this time. Second, Social Security was developed to be an INSURANCE program, or safety net, not a retirement program. All discussion on your program, and most others, has been about how private accounts will provide a better retirement for seniors. My dad, had a massive heart attack at age 43, Social Security was there to help him and my mother keep their house and afford food when he could not work. I have a high school friend whose husband died in 1987, leaving her with three small children to support and no insurance, job, or income to buy food or pay the house payment, Social Security helped to tide her over, so she could go back to school, get a job, keep her house and care for her children. It was unbelievably difficult, but without Social Security, it would have been impossible. Her oldest son is now in the Air Force, the middle one is in college and her youngest graduates from high school this June. It is true, that Social Security is partly a retirement program, as a safety net, for the elderly. It was developed to that the elderly would not starve. I have two grown daughters. If they need this safety net, I want Social Security to be there for them.
I know that mine is only one opinion. My hope is that enough of your viewing audience is concerned, as I am, with the direction of our country and will speak up to help make our collective voice heard. It is clear to me, that we are not being heard now. If you have, in fact, read this email, I thank you for your time from the bottom of my heart! (smile)

Sincerely,
XXXXXXXXX


:hi:

[autorank]

18. Question: Does an event happen even if the media doesn't cover it?

The answer is obviously yes and we need to get things straight in the blogsphere. I've posted pics and a little narrative on the march but would like to see some real narrative coverage of the two rally's and march + senate debate on the independent media (if there is something, post a link). Screw the WaPOST, NYT, and all the rest. I was so pissed on 1/7/05 when I went to buy a Post for the first time in years. No front page coverage. Can you believe it?

The media whores think the answer to the above question is no. Well, they're dwindling in audience now. This is just one more reason to expect them to dwindle more.

SCREW THE SYSTEM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x272275

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=255393

[seito]

31. Amen to that

How many have stopped watching their trash? More and more people get their news from the Internet(s) and this trend will only increase.

That is unless we buy into the DOOOOOOOOOOOMED theory.

Thanks autorank :yourock:

[autorank]

43. Thanks for the post. "DOOOOOOOMED Theory", haha, no way. We're rolling.

[myschkin]

20. The need for

http://www.1-2-free-forums.com/mf/index.php?mforum=mtf

Media Task Force

[Al-CIAda]

23. Video/documentaries...

THE CIA AND THE MEDIA
"Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services — from simple intelligence- gathering to serving as go-betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors-without-portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested it the derring-do of the spy business as in filing articles, and, the smallest category, full-time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements America’s leading news organizations.

The history of the CIA’s involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception . . . . - Carl Bernstein, 1977

http://www.class.uidaho.edu/mickelsen/Media%20Readings/Berstein%20-%20CIA%20and%20the%20Media.htm


The Times reported that over the last twenty years, the CIA owned or subsidized more than fifty newspapers, news services, radio stations, periodicals and other communications facilities, most of them overseas. These were used for propaganda efforts, or even as cover for operations. Another dozen foreign news organizations were infiltrated by paid CIA agents. At least 22 American news organizations had employed American journalists who were also working for the CIA, and nearly a dozen American publishing houses printed some of the more than 1,000 books that had been produced or subsidized by the CIA. When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its media agents what to write, William Colby replied, "Oh, sure, all the time."

http://www.stanford.edu/class/e297c/war_peace/media_war_censorship/molly_pietsch.html

The Myth of the Liberal Media
The Propaganda Model of News
Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky demolish one of the central tenets of our political culture, the idea of the "liberal media." Instead, utilizing a systematic model based on massive empirical research, they reveal the manner in which the news media are so subordinated to corporate and conservative interests that their function can only be described as that of "elite propaganda."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6435.htm

YOU CANNOT HAVE A GLOBAL EMPIRE WITHOUT TOTAL CONTROL OF YOUR DOMESTIC POLITICS

-------------------


The Propaganda Model of News
1997
(60 min)
 
An excellent discussion about how the news is sculpted to present a certain viewpoint of events around the world. Featuring Noam Chomsky, Edward Herman and Justin Lewis.
 
Download 32.6MB
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/myth_of_the_liberal_media.rm



THE PAUL MORAN STORY
uly 23, 2003
(20:17 min)
 
Paul Moran died after a suicide bombing in Iraq.  He was a reporter for ABC, and one of the strongest voices along with Judith Miller of the New York Times, to claim Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.  At his funeral it raised eyebrows when CIA, FBI, and other secret agents popped up to pay their respects.  In this report, an investigation in how the secret service operates within the mainstream media. 
 
Watch Online
http://203.15.102.143:8080/ramgen/media/dl_030724b.rm


GARY WEBB: IN HIS WORDS
Download 23MB (8:15 min)
Gary Webb broke the story of the CIA’s involvement in cocaine.
http://www.archive.org/download/Gary_Webb2/Gary_Webb_bb2.mov


"Spin"
Brian Springer
Video, 1995, (60 min.)

Using the 1992 presidential election as his springboard, documentary filmmaker Brian Springer captures the behind-the-scenes maneuverings of politicians and newscasters in the early 1990s. Pat Robertson banters about "homos," Al Gore learns how to avoid abortion questions, George Bush talks to Larry King about halcyon -- all presuming they're off camera. Composed of 100% unauthorized satellite footage, Spin is a surreal expose of media-constructed reality.
 Download 574MB
 http://illegal-art.org/video/vcd/Spin_1.mpg



Bill Moyer’s "The Secret Government"
aired on PBS in 1987 and is as good as anything on the tape. Bill Moyers is one of the most recognizable and celebrated journalists whose approach to investigative journalism is highly respected. Known for his award winning PBS documentaries, in this segment he interviews several different people involved with the CIA and other government agencies who speak about various U.S. foreign policy covert and overt operations that took place during the Cold War era. His documentary gives quite an overview of what has actually happened in the last 50 years regarding the founding of the National Security Agency and the CIA. (22:04)

Download part1 2.94MB
http://storage.testpad.net/freedomfiles.org/Secretgov1.wmv
and part2 2.66MB
 http://storage.testpad.net/freedomfiles.org/Secretgov2.wmv


S-11 REDUX
Download 40MB (10:53 min)
During wartime, media & government become one
http://www.archive.org/download/redux/redux_256kb.mov


EAST TIMOR BLACKOUT
Download 30MB (8:07 min)
Savage oppression backed by U.S. ignored by news outlets.
http://www.archive.org/download/east_timor/east_timor.mov


WAR CONSPIRACY
Download 16MB (4:17 min)
The CIA, the oily elite and their manipulation of foreign policy.
 http://www.archive.org/download/war/war_256kb.mov


OWNING THE PEACOCK
Download 18MB (4:53 min)
The unholy alliance of General Electric & NBC.
http://www.archive.org/download/nbc_1_/nbc_1_.mov


Many more videos avail. for download here-
http://mysite.verizon.net/res7dhyg/id3.html

[jdog]

39. thank you for all your video references.

I watched the video on Dominionism - I want to watch it again. Very informative. I'll watch these too.

[MelissaB]

42. Holy sh*t!

It (the state of our country) is worse than I thought. I'm going to bookmark this to come back to later. Thanks so much for all the links.

Sometimes I wonder if this is a battle we can win, but I know we have to fight it.

[Al-CIAda]

58. You are most welcome...

Glad to be of service. Please spread the word and inform...

Yes, the "Dominionist" piece is scary indeed!

(FYI)-
"The Rise of Dominionism"
recorded October 11, 2004, 44 minutes
Download audio and video documenting the Rise of Dominionism (no charge, no copyright)
http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm

Cornell University's Joan Bokaer explains Dominionism and Reconstructionism and their hijacking of American government.

TheocracyWatch is a project of the Center for Religion, Ethics and Social Policy (CRESP) at Cornell University. CRESP is a nonsectarian, action-based educational organization with its roots in religious dialogue, human rights advocacy, and ethical thought.
---------------

http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm

[EFerrari]

25. Picking up on what OLL said (#14), a concerted action by a

significant number of people WORKS.

The NYTs was forced to do a semi-apologetic mass mailing to all of us who were on their case for not covering "Ohio". Because we had numbers.

Now, if we got everyone we know to call/email CNN and tell them we're switching to MSNBC (okay, don't gag) because KO covered the story and they did not, THEN we might get somewhere.

[saracat]

32. This has really scared me more than any other thing!

[ginnyinWI]

34. On a related note,

has any TV network carried even a single word about John Kerry being in the Middle East on a fact-gathering/diplomatic tour? I'd really be interested in knowing that. On TV, it seems as though John Kerry has dropped down a memory hole!

[saracat]

53. Very true.

[Niche]

38. They are complicit in the crimes of this WH. Totally complicit.

[FreepFryer]

40. It is clear that the White House exerts whatever means it needs to get the

story it wants.

[brindis_desala]

41. Bushco claimed openly "we create reality"

Stop kicking yourselves Duers YOU are not the tin foil hat conspirators but frankly I wonder how ANY thinking person could still believe the U.S. corporate media has ANY interest in reporting the TRUTH.

1) Does anyone with a brain believe the 19 hijacker theory for 911?
Silence from the MSM.

2) Has the MSM ever covered what happened to Gore's 16,600 votes that "disappeared" in Volusia County? Or the the fact that Florida broke its own laws in 2004 by purging African American voters even though the review after 2000 proved they were fully qualified to vote.

3) Have they plumbed the story on the "NIGER uranium" or who outed a CIA operative, an act of treason?

4) Investigated who was involved in Cheney's secret meetings on energy policy while California was being bilked for $6 billion by Kenny boy?

5) Reported that U.S, soldiers are so spooked and overextended they are shooting innocent Iraqis including women and children on sight?

6) Explained why the exit polls THEY THEMSELVES were using on election night turned out to be skewed or why they reported erroneously that MORAL VALUES was the overriding issue?

The MSM ARE the problem. That's why your work here is so invaluable.

GOOD NEWS: we're still not as bad off as CHINA. NGU!

[MelissaB]

45. Brindis_desala,

I always look for you posts and find them very informative. My question to you is: What do you think we can do to solve the MSM problem?

[brindis_desala]

48. We might try encouraging wealthy progessives like Soros

to start a liberal network. But corporations should NOT be allowed to fund candidates, period. That should be our #1 issue and it could woo a lot of independents. Either way it's a hard road to hoe but in the meantime each one of us should be spreading the information on the Internet far and wide.

[IndyPriest]

46. Yes. Lockdown. Lockbrain. Lockjaw. Lockstep....

[berniew1]

47. I think it will unlock soon; the evidence of fraud and dirty tricks is to

too strong- they can't ignore or deny it.

There was widespread and systematic voter suppression of minority voters, dirty tricks, vote machine fraud, dirty tricks and other vote manipulation in Ohio, New Mexico, and Florida- that was of magnitude enough to call in question who won those states.

http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html
http://www.flcv.com/EIRSFla.html
http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19
http://www.helpamericarecount.org/NewMexicoData/NewMexicoGeneralElection.pdf
http://www.flcv.com/bernalil.html
etc.

and also similar patterns in other states where the suppression and fraud did not change the election results including vote machine fraud in Calif., Pennsylvania, Washington, Texas, etc.
http://www.flcv.com/orangets.html
http://www.flcv.com/snohomis.html
http://www.flcv.com/mercerco.html
http://www.votersunite.org
etc.

(the voter suppression of minorities in Mercer County is the worst I've ever seen-followup needed)

The unethical and illegal actions were so systematic and widespread that this cannot be allowed to continue uninvestigated and unpunished. There was a huge amount of obvious malfeasance and dirty tricks that should be investigated and dealt with
http://www.flcv.com/dirtytrf.html
http://www.flcv.com/EIRSFla2.html
http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm
http://www.votersunite.org

[NJCher]

49. as we speak

NBC just aired a 3-minute gift to the automotive industry on the nightly news. They discussed the 20-30 new "concept cars." Never mind that profits are down for both domestic and import manufacturers,they're continuing on the same moronic path: now we have a Hummer whose wheels go inward so it can spin on its own axis. Don't ask me what purpose this would serve.

Oh and 440 horsepower vehicles. And The Charger is back, only with four doors. Yes, we are going back in time.

Twenty years ago this would NEVER have appeared on the evening news. Now the evening news is nothing more than the weekly free advertising rag.


Cher

[IndyPriest]

51. And I'll bet the commercials were full of all kinds of other great

stuff we could buy, too. So, commercials for the news and commercials for commercials. Isn't that amazing? Gee, I wonder what game they're into?

[pacalo]

50. Imo, it has to do with protecting their source of huge profits rolling in.

It revolves around their defense contracts. I haven't seen an updated list, but last year I saw one that had General Electric on the top of the list of having gained huge profits from defense contracts. At the expense of young men & women fighting their wars, including the lives of innocent Iraqi families, war is making them richer & richer.

Exposing the corporate media to the naive tv viewing audience should be as top priority as election reform.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

54. Dean Takes on Big Media

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1219-12.htm


Matthews: There are so many things that have been deregulated. Is that a wrong trend and would you reverse it?

Dean: I would reverse it in some areas. First of all, eleven companies in this country control ninety percent of what ordinary people are able to read and watch on their television. That's wrong. We need to have a wide variety of opinions in every community. We don't have that because of Michael Powell and what George Bush has tried to do the FCC.

Matthews: As a public policy, would you bring industrial policy to bear and break up these conglomerations of power?...How about large media enterprises?

Dean: The answer to that is yes. I would say there is too much penetration by single corporations in media markets all over this country. We need locally-owned radio stations. There are only two or three radio stations left in the state of Vermont where you can get local news anymore. The rest of it is read and ripped from the AP.


..continya..

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1219-12.htm

[HR_Pufnstuf]

56. Good news on the music/radio front tho.

These two stocks, XMSR and SIRI, are shining stars to some extent, if they dont limit content, and survive. I've never seen an industry (conventional radio) put out anti-technology (anti-satellite) commercials like you hear on their supposed "local" radio stations.

At least with SIRI, XMSR, internet, it wont be as easy for the 4 labels to shove "their" artists down America's throat.


And way harder worldwide. Radio/Labels are nervous. Good. Time to usher in the new economy whether they like it or not.


Max Chart - XMSR and SIRI
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&s=SIRI&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=xmsr


SIRI's message boards:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mb?s=siri
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=NASDAQ%3ASIRI&origsymbols=siri

[Amigust]

59. Lockdown not hard to comprehend, considering the Republican

outright ownership or control of the major broadcasters.

[Al-CIAda]

63. KICK