A brief discusion on emigration

[Nicholas_J]

After the results of this election became known worldwide, throught the industrialized world, the media asked the question how so many Americans can be so dumb?"

They all ask, and give their sympathy to those of us who were not so dumb, and even bring up the topic of Americans who claimed that they would emigrate to Canada, or whereever if Bush was elected. On right wing radio programs. those who made such statemetns are being mocked as really not meaning it, all talk and no action.

Yet the one thing that all of these natrions have not don is to offer asylum to those of us who have become political prisoners in a nations which is rpidly becoming a right wing dictatorship, where the election has once been certainly stolen., and in all likelyhood, has been stolen a second time, using more devious means. No one has opened their doors to escape from a nation in which democracy is obviously dying and soon to be dead.

It would seem that some of our own memberson DU, who have access to the media and have been published could well bring up this question.

Along with another questions. MOst of the Europeans who have been critical of the Bush administration, and the results of this election and the fact that they beleive that the election of the President of the United Staes is of as great importance to them as it is to us have not questioned the fact that they, through their taxes, have financed the deficit that George Bush has run up by the fact that their own governments invest heavily in U.S. Treasury instrument, as well as directly lending money to the U.S. Government. Surely if they oppose the policies ofthe United States under the Bush Administration, they would have little trouble demanding that their leaders follow a policy of not investing in a nation ewhose policies they so vigorously oppose. European citizens seem to have afar greater influence on the poliies of their own government tyhan americans do. In fact, it would not be very difficult for the nations of the E.U. to make it very difficult for ther current administration to make wa or do much else by pulling investment from this government.

In fact, those of us who opposed this government should do what ew can to ask the citizens of other nations to help us in working towards policies that would be in their interests as well as our own.

I hope any of you publishe DU'ers take me up on this suggestion. It could do much to effect the results in the mid term elections.

[Oak2004]

1. Yes, we need to ask the citizens of the world for support nt

[Nicholas_J]

2. Yes, if they cant or wont find it in their hearts

To give us a fast track to immigration, at least they could do more to convince their governments to NOT shore up this administrations policies by financing the deficits that it is running in order to give tax cuts to the wealthy and prosecute a pre-ewmtive war that smacks of Germany's attack on Poland. Germany based the attack on Poland by defining it as a growing threat to Germany. When the tanks rolled in the Polish Spahi's faced down the tanks on horseback with lances. Pretty similar to what we found in Iraq. I recently met a young man who was in the first wave of the invasion of Iraq and he was told just before they went in that they would be facing tanks and rocket equipt helicopters, but when they tgot over the border, the Iraqi's were in trucks and personnel transport with nothing but automatic weapons, some mortars and RPG's. The Iraqi's they met offered no resistance and the American troops did not bother to engage them, just rolled on by without them fighting the American troops or the American firing a shot at them. He said it was pathetic. They were barely prepared to fight off a group of rowdy citizens, much less fight a war. Later it was found that 90 percent of Iraq's helicopters had been destroyed in the Gulf War, as well as 50 percent of the tanks. THose items that remained were not operational due to lack of replacement parts due to the 12 years of embargoes on Iraq. His estimate was that the war could have been totally avoided, that Saddams regime was at near collapse and a welkl supplied insurgency in the north and south could have toppled Saddam in not much more time than it took our troops to roll over the country.